UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025 #2

[TonnnnUK]

And yet they were caught at the exact same time frame the text was sent on CCTV down by the river bank with no other persons identified…

I'd imagine they could see them looking at a phone and delivering the text at the time since they saw them on the bridge and turning onto the path.

If the 2pm visit there was them getting the wrong time for an elaborate plan and had rucksacks with them containing stuff to take away with them, why didn't they take the rucksacks with them for the "correct" meeting time of 2am?

For such a good, clever and elaborate disappearance act, how could they have got the timing so wrong for the 2pm escape attempt?

 

[Skigh]

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No, i think the most likely explanation is that they have voluntarily entered the water.

I agree.
Every thing the police have said in their public statements including details from cctv cameras back up the hypothesis that they both entered the water voluntarily.
The police would have also considered whether a third party could be involved and investigated whether that theory was viable.

 

[Loyaloil]

I'd imagine they could see them looking at a phone and delivering the text at the time since they saw them on the bridge and turning onto the path.

If the 2pm visit there was them getting the wrong time for an elaborate plan and had rucksacks with them containing stuff to take away with them, why didn't they take the rucksacks with them for the "correct" meeting time of 2am?

For such a good, clever and elaborate disappearance act, how could they have got the timing so wrong for the 2pm escape attempt?

Exactly!

No-one knows the reason for the 2pm visit to the bridge and more than likely never will. My assumption or hunch would be that they had just finished work/errands and this was the reason for them having rucksacks at that time.

Also, IF they were there at the wrong time to ‘meet’ unknown person(s) wouldn’t it be more likely they would have been caught on the same 2am CCTV and not just the bridge CCTV for a max of 5 mins. I honestly feel they were scoping it out, nothing more.

Maybe they wore those rucksacks daily/routinely and if they were left behind in the flat maybe this raised the suspicion of the landlord also. Maybe.

Maybe one or both took regular medication for unknown condition(s) and the medication was left behind also in the flat which aroused suspicion. Maybe

Maybe they went to the bridge initially as thought ‘jumping’ would be a better idea in their heads but when got there the plan changed to entering the water rather than jumping. 2pm and 2am are very different times in terms of an intervention.

Everything I am saying has already been discussed tbh. It just all makes the most sense to me but no sense atall.

 

[Skigh]

Maybe they wanted to check the water level at a similar tide time or how much ice covered the river.

I do think they chose the 2am time for a particular reason ,maybe because of tide times.

 

[Bethan]

River Dee ferryboat disaster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Forgive me if already mentioned & I missed it.

I was researching the tidal nature of the River Dee, Aberdeen in this area & discovered reference to a ferry boat disaster in 1876 where 32 people were drowned, when an overloaded ferry boat capsized.

Following this disaster the Queen Victoria Bridge ( also called the Victoria Bridge) was built, opening in 1881, which carries a plaque commemorating those who died.

 

[tree1]

Maybe they wanted to check the water level at a similar tide time or how much ice covered the river.

I do think they chose the 2am time for a particular reason ,maybe because of tide times.

If, and a big if to me, they chose to end their lives, I think they were escaping from some sort of situation that could bring what they perceived as shame on themselves and family.

 

[Rebeka89]

I'm putting forth the the hypothesis that if they didn't send the text themselves, someone used their face or fingerprint to access the phone. I believe it was Henrietta's phone they took, Eliza's was left

My daughter lives some distance from me (she is married with a child). If either of us haven’t replied to a text or call within a couple of hours, we worry! I don’t think daily contact even is excessive. I call it being close . I honestly don’t think it illustrates anything other than that they cared about and loved their family in Hungary .

I agree. I'm a grown woman, but I talk to my mom every other day. Not everyone hates their parents.

 

[davidt]

Sadly I do think they entered the river. Of course without actual confirmation there is always some hope of another outcome. If they had been planning to disappear then from all the information provided by local people on here I don't understand why they would have chosen somewhere so difficult to do it from. And also it being a dodgy and dangerous area as well. I would have thought they would have made it easier for themselves. I wonder if any searches of their Internet browsing history will throw up anything.

In terms of their finances we don't really know if they were saving at all. They had apparently told their family that was the case. That might be quite true or it might be just what they were telling the family in order to keep up an impression that they were doing well. We know they both had low paying jobs and that one had only started her job recently. We've no idea whether they worked full time, part time or anything else. They did have bank accounts as the police mentioned there had been no activity on them since they disappeared.

If its true they were saving for their own place then firstly it would seem neither had any current serious romantic relationship to consider. Buying your own place with your sister seems to rule that out. Sounds like a serious commitment. Secondly saving for a property indicates they had plans for the future which adds to the puzzle of why they would wish to end their lives. Not that logic necessarily has to apply in such circumstances.

As yet of course ae know nothing really about them. How close they were. Did they usually do things together, have the same or different circle of friends and so on. I think a lot will become clearer when we learn how dependent or otherwise they were on each other. If they were really co-dependent then if one had a particular issue then perhaps they couldn't bear to be parted. Who knows.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

(Snipped) I would be interested to know what the relationship with the landlady was like. I have a feeling it was either rather good, ie they were quite good friends, or acrimonious, ie she was kicking them out. Feels like one or the other for them to think of her in that moment.

A reporter asked the police officer in the press conference if there had been a falling out with the landlady and the officer immediately replied no, not that we believe. They talk about the tenancy about 15 mins into this video.

 

[davidt]

Hadn't realised there was more than one mobile phone left in the flat.

 

[FromGermany1]

I don't know....it just seems a bit convenient. If they were entering a suicide pact why not just go to the site and get on with it? It's a little suspect that they went to the same place just 12 hours earlier during daylight hours as if they were on a reconnoitre for a future meet up. Check out the location just to get their bearings, get the lay of the land, etc. Or whether they got the time wrong, since the day before they disappeared they had backpacks with them.

I now wonder whether the text message sent at 2 am was actually sent by them. Anyone could have sent it. It's just becoming more suspect to me that there was no suicide pact, that everything we are hearing about their last couple of days is from the landlady.

Why did they call the landlady and for that purpose (?) took one phone with them, but one phone left at home? The girls could have left a sticky note with 1 sentence "We moved out and won't return to this address, sorry and bye-bye." To call at 2am doesn't make any sense, I think.

 

[Sarahlou]

Why did they call the landlady and for that purpose (?) took one phone with them, but one phone left at home? The girls could have left a sticky note with 1 sentence "We moved out and won't return to this address, sorry and bye-bye." To call at 2am doesn't make any sense, I think.

They only needed to take one phone (to text the landlady and whoever else)as they wouldn't be needing their phones anymore.
I think they waited until they were at the river as they might have had doubts as to whether they'd go through with it. Taking the phone also let people know where to look for them.
The landlady might not have gone to the house for quite a while unless they'd text her.

 

[FromGermany1]

They only needed to take one phone (to text the landlady and whoever else)as they wouldn't be needing their phones anymore.
I think they waited until they were at the river as they might have had doubts as to whether they'd go through with it. Taking the phone also let people know where to look for them.
The landlady might not have gone to the house for quite a while unless they'd text her.

bbm=
THAT I can understand.
But why should people be able to look for them and why should the landlady visit her rented out apartment immediately the next day? It seems, the girls wanted to disappear, alive or dead. Why taking any precautions or these precautions?

 

[LittleSeaTree]

I think most people do now, especially as they are usually automatically logged into various apps so anyone could post stuff on socials and the like if they had the phone. I have a password, but mostly because my phone asked for it when I got it and it was easier than trying to disable it. I'd guess the older generation tend not to, but the younger generation definitely do. I think the sisters would have had passwords

Is locking your phone a given these days? I don't lock my phone. Anyone could pick up my phone and scroll through my texts. And send texts. Do most people lock their phones. I don't know a lot of people who lock their phones, including my husband and my daughter and her husband, and quite a few friends.

Is locking your phone a given these days? I don't lock my phone. Anyone could pick up my phone and scroll through my texts. And send texts. Do most people lock their phones. I don't know a lot of people who lock their phones, including my husband and my daughter and her husband, and quite a few friends.

I think with all of the purchasing/banking apps and Apple Pay, etc., that one might possibly have on their phone, locking becomes a necessity. Def the case for me.

 

[Cherwell]

If they were really co-dependent then if one had a particular issue then perhaps they couldn't bear to be parted.

This is what I've been thinking. Perhaps one of them was ill.

 

[Sarahlou]

bbm=
THAT I can understand.
But why should people be able to look for them and why should the landlady visit her rented out apartment immediately the next day? It seems, the girls wanted to disappear, alive or dead. Why taking any precautions or these precautions?

I would guess they hoped their bodies would be found for their family's sake. But who knows, the actions of people in that frame of mind aren't always understandable.

 

[Coach]

bbm=
THAT I can understand.
But why should people be able to look for them and why should the landlady visit her rented out apartment immediately the next day? It seems, the girls wanted to disappear, alive or dead. Why taking any precautions or these precautions?

If there was no previous communication that they wanted to move out of the flat and as a landlord myself, if I received a message from a tenant at the ungodly hour of just after 2am out of the blue then the first thing I would do is go to the property. In all my years I have never known a tenant to send a message at that time, 2am. We have been renting properties for decades and we are approachable, our tenants can contact us at anytime and we consider them as friends or family, not as tenants. It would have to be something really serious (severe damage during a storm etc) for a tenant to message a landlord/landlady at that time of hour. I do find it odd that they messaged her when they could instead have simply sent a note in the post to her which would have arrived the next day.

 

[Coach]

Residents baffled after twin sisters disappear without a trace

Eliza and Henrietta Huszti, both 32, were last seen at the Victoria Bridge over the River Dee at around 2.12am on the morning of January 7 with the search for them now entering a 12th day

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Skigh]

If there was no previous communication that they wanted to move out of the flat and as a landlord myself, if I received a message from a tenant at the ungodly hour of just after 2am out of the blue then the first thing I would do is go to the property. In all my years I have never known a tenant to send a message at that time, 2am. We have been renting properties for decades and we are approachable, our tenants can contact us at anytime and we consider them as friends or family, not as tenants. It would have to be something really serious (severe damage during a storm etc) for a tenant to message a landlord/landlady at that time of hour. I do find it odd that they messaged her when they could instead have simply sent a note in the post to her which would have arrived the next day.

Maybe they wanted to be absolutely sure they would be able to complete their mission. They could have worried that an incident could have occurred near to the river and emergency services would be in the area or something else happen which would mean they could not carry out their plans that night.

 

[Trebor5591]

When Nicola Bulley went in the water she was dead in under a minute from the shock of the coldness of the water. If they went in the water would they even had time to walk in it to try and go undercover in the water somehow.?

If they turned the water off would that stop the police being able to track the body in the water?

If they turned the water off? What do you mean?