UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025.

[ZeroAlpha]

I agree - why not show us the most recent images for best identification?

Do buses run at this hour?

Most local service buses will stop around midnight

 

[TonnnnUK]

It is strange. In your previous post you said that there is CCTV right by the entrance to the river path, well why not show this as well? Ok it might not be a clear picture but at least it would show which way the sisters were last seen heading.

I see the river path eventually comes out by the boathouse and then up to the main street, is there definitely CCTV coverage of this spot do you know? Is there any possibility they could of continued walking on and under the next bridge without being caught on CCTV?

Assuming it is just an image quality thing. Good enough quality to tell it is them, but not enough clarity for better detail.

In terms of CCTV over by the boat clubs or the other commercial units on that street, there's been some mixed messaging. Authorities have asked businesses to check their CCTV while also stating they don't think the sisters left the area.

Hazarding a guess, I think this could mean that the boat clubs have one or some cameras in which the ladies were not picked up on. But they also ask for other units in the area for their coverage in case the women could have somehow made it back to the S Esplanade W street from the path (although I assume there fencing and such from blocking any way through, but just speculating there.

 

[Binx26]

It is strange. In your previous post you said that there is CCTV right by the entrance to the river path, well why not show this as well? Ok it might not be a clear picture but at least it would show which way the sisters were last seen heading.

I see the river path eventually comes out by the boathouse and then up to the main street, is there definitely CCTV coverage of this spot do you know? Is there any possibility they could have continued walking on and under the next bridge without being caught on CCTV?

The businesses on the other side of S Esplanade Way definitely have CCTV, although it looks like this is pointed at entrances so unclear whether it would cover to the other side of the road?

Actually, now that the industrial units are no longer on the river side of S Esplanade Way, it might actually be an area with less CCTV coverage? The media reports seem to be consistent that there is no evidence they left the path. However, I am just not sure how that is the case as there must be blind spots or points where you can exit the path without being seen.

For example, the temporary fence is blown/knocked over in the pic. Surely you could leave the path without being in the range of cameras on the other side of the road.

 

[ZeroAlpha]

Assuming it is just an image quality thing. Good enough quality to tell it is them, but not enough clarity for better detail.

In terms of CCTV over by the boat clubs or the other commercial units on that street, there's been some mixed messaging. Authorities have asked businesses to check their CCTV while also stating they don't think the sisters left the area.

Hazarding a guess, I think this could mean that the boat clubs have one or some cameras in which the ladies were not picked up on. But they also ask for other units in the area for their coverage in case the women could have somehow made it back to the S Esplanade W street from the path (although I assume there fencing and such from blocking any way through, but just speculating there.

Image quality is terrible on a lot of CCTV and at night time you can imagine what they are working with.

 

[TMich6811]

Most local service buses will stop around midnight

Thanks, I was asking because there is a bus stop at that entrance

 

[annpats]

Just because they are not seen leaving the area, doesn’t mean they are in the river.

But chances are, they are.
That's how it usually turns out in many of these cases.

 

[TonnnnUK]

The businesses on the other side of S Esplanade Way definitely have CCTV, although it looks like this is pointed at entrances so unclear whether it would cover to the other side of the road?

Actually, now that the industrial units are no longer on the river side of S Esplanade Way, it might actually be an area with less CCTV coverage? The media reports seem to be consistent that there is no evidence they left the path. However, I am just not sure how that is the case as there must be blind spots or points where you can exit the path without being seen.

For example, the temporary fence is blown/knocked over in the pic. Surely you could leave the path without being in the range of cameras on the other side of the road.

Yep definitely could be areas where they left the path. That would make sense they were asking other businesses to review CCTV.

It's hard to imagine though, given it is mostly commercial premises in the area that they don't have all avenues leading out from S Esplanade Way covered. If they have somehow managed to evade the cameras on there, they'd be picked up again on the nearby, surrounding streets...

*Update* Oddly enough, if you turn around from the screenshot provided, there's a commercial unit with 3 cameras facing it all directions. Kinds of negating the point we're trying to make.

 

[Tricia]

That map with the route on in the article I think is incorrect. Unless they have got the route info from the police.
The CCTV still image has been pinpointed to the intersection of Charlotte St, St Andrews St and Crooked Lane which is half a mile further North than where Guild St and Market St meet.

Unless, for some reason that was from another time/earlier in the evening and that's what has been issued in the reporting rather than the actual CCTV still from Market Street.

I'm not sure why they would issue a still from CCTV if it wasn't from the last or one of the last sightings of them so people might recognise them by clothing etc.

If the CCTV shot issued was from the same journey of them leaving their house their directions are more erratic.
I've super imposed the route from the Sun article in red and the green circle to the north is where the CCTV image is from.

Please provide a link to the map. Thank you

 

[TonnnnUK]

Please provide a link to the map. Thank you

The map mentioned appears in this article from the Scottish Sun:
Cops probe claims screams heard moments after last sighting of missing sisters

Cheers.

 

[JennieM]

Most local service buses will stop around midnight

Night buses run after midnight, but I don’t know if that stop has night buses.

 

[RobinCAL]

I'm still so confused with the aspect of the landlord apparently reporting them missing? I suppose they might be close for him to know they aren't doing anything like work or travelling and then for him to be right; that something has gone wrong...its just a bit strange, IMO.

Also, is it me or was the CCTV found quite quickly? I suppose a couple of days had passed from when they were reported missing to when it seemingly hit mainstream news with said CCTV.

It just seems they had an idea of where to look otherwise you'd think it would take longer if they don't know what time they left or where they went to.

Of course, could just be really good police work, but some thoughts that were bothering me a bit.

 

[Bigditch]

I'm still so confused with the aspect of the landlord apparently reporting them missing? I suppose they might be close for him to know they aren't doing anything like work or travelling and then for him to be right; that something has gone wrong...its just a bit strange, IMO.

Also, is it me or was the CCTV found quite quickly? I suppose a couple of days had passed from when they were reported missing to when it seemingly hit mainstream news with said CCTV.

It just seems they had an idea of where to look otherwise you'd think it would take longer if they don't know what time they left or where they went to.

Of course, could just be really good police work, but some thoughts that were bothering me a bit.

Do you have source info about the landlord? Thanks

 

[RobinCAL]

Do you have source info about the landlord? Thanks

It’s understood the alarm was raised by their landlord who got worried when they didn’t come home and then didn’t show up for work.

Cops probe claims screams heard moments after last sighting of missing sisters

COPS are probing claims that screams were heard by a river at the time two sisters vanished there, it emerged. It’s understood noises were heard in Aberdeen in the early hours of Tuesday that…

www.thescottishsun.co.uk

 

[Thinker Matt]

I'm still so confused with the aspect of the landlord apparently reporting them missing? I suppose they might be close for him to know they aren't doing anything like work or travelling and then for him to be right; that something has gone wrong...its just a bit strange, IMO.

Also, is it me or was the CCTV found quite quickly? I suppose a couple of days had passed from when they were reported missing to when it seemingly hit mainstream news with said CCTV.

It just seems they had an idea of where to look otherwise you'd think it would take longer if they don't know what time they left or where they went to.

Of course, could just be really good police work, but some thoughts that were bothering me a bit.

Agreed with your points regarding the CCTV footage arriving quickly and your point on their landlord.

The landlord allegedly being the person who reported them missing to the authorities particularly intrigues me, not just because how did he know after such a relatively short time that they were indeed missing, but how he's got the authorities to investigate it so quickly.

I would have thought that the police would likely suggest that he waits a bit before properly being able to report them as missing, surely adults can be "off grid" for 24~ hours without being reported missing.

The only reason I could see the police instantly investigating is if the person reporting them as missing could provide evidence or proof they'd be in serious harm/danger, which then loops back to the over arching theme of how the landlord would know all this to begin with.

Again just my own thoughts on the matter, apologies for the ramble.

 

[Bigditch]

If it is true that the landlord is the person who reported the women missing, he might also be the last person who saw them.

 

[TMich6811]

Agreed with your points regarding the CCTV footage arriving quickly and your point on their landlord.

The landlord allegedly being the person who reported them missing to the authorities particularly intrigues me, not just because how did he know after such a relatively short time that they were indeed missing, but how he's got the authorities to investigate it so quickly.

I would have thought that the police would likely suggest that he waits a bit before properly being able to report them as missing, surely adults can be "off grid" for 24~ hours without being reported missing.

The only reason I could see the police instantly investigating is if the person reporting them as missing could provide evidence or proof they'd be in serious harm/danger, which then loops back to the over arching theme of how the landlord would know all this to begin with.

Again just my own thoughts on the matter, apologies for the ramble.

I’ve been the same. I feel like I’m rambling with what the heck’s because nothing makes sense.

I keep just really hoping the police have solid evidence they aren’t releasing not assumptions

I too find the landlord situation weird. I don’t fully understand the housing situation but it seems odd that grown women were so closely monitored by the landlord unless they lived together fully but it didn’t say that.

The speed at which they were reporting is incredible to me also. What would make someone report to the actual police so quickly. How did they confirm everything so quickly. Was it the landlord who reached out to the employers? How did they find footage so quickly in all of the area especially when their route/times make 0 sense

Why show us an image from an entirely different location/time when they had better quality pictures from the family they can use since it wasn’t really the time of the disappearance.

That boat club man.

And then just back to The cell phones?!

 

[Coach]

If the landlord did not live in the same building as them (could be multiple self contained flats in one building or an HMO), I have been trying to think of any other reason as to how the landlord would be in a position to report them missing. Is it possible that the landlord had given them notice to gain access, possibly for undertaking some repairs? Another reason might be if a notice to quit had been served. NTQ does not always mean rent arrears, there are a whole host of additional reasons such as a landlord deciding to sell a property, converting it, coming out of the rental market etc. Perhaps they had contacted the landlord, sent a letter or message. The landlord must have been concerned before he/she reported them missing. Something triggered and initiated the landlord doing this.

 

[Coach]

Do we know what time the CCTV footage was captured re the photo of them walking past the building with the steps?

 

[SimplyCass]

Agreed with your points regarding the CCTV footage arriving quickly and your point on their landlord.

The landlord allegedly being the person who reported them missing to the authorities particularly intrigues me, not just because how did he know after such a relatively short time that they were indeed missing, but how he's got the authorities to investigate it so quickly.

I would have thought that the police would likely suggest that he waits a bit before properly being able to report them as missing, surely adults can be "off grid" for 24~ hours without being reported missing.

The only reason I could see the police instantly investigating is if the person reporting them as missing could provide evidence or proof they'd be in serious harm/danger, which then loops back to the over arching theme of how the landlord would know all this to begin with.

Again just my own thoughts on the matter, apologies for the ramble.

Reporting a Missing Person

Reporting a Missing Person

www.scotland.police.uk

UK Missing Persons Unit

Both police agencies emphasize that you do not need to wait 24 hours to report someone missing. Both also mention that they make a risk assessment to determine the amount of resources and lines of inquiry to pursue. If the speed of this seems exceptionally fast, IMO, the landlord (or whoever reported) did present evidence that these two were at serious risk of harm/danger.

I tried to find a 'similar case' to this one. Alice Byrne was last seen 1 January 2022 in Portobello (near Edinburgh). The information also seemed to come at a rapid clip, with a fairly good timeline within the first four days. So I'm more inclined to think it's good police work/procedures and it isn't highly unusual.

WS thread for Byrne: UK - UK - Alice Byrne, 28, last seen around 2am after beach party, Portobello, Edinburgh, 1 Jan 2022

 

[KSwizzle]

Landlord is interesting but who know what relationship they had with the landlord. For all we know they could have told the landlord, we're going to buy something from someone or meet someone if we don't talk or contact you by X time then something happened