Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #4

[meme4]

So what on earth was the point of first announcing that she will go to New Beginnings, then refusing to disclose the facility, then announcing that she will go to New Beginnings?

:banghead:

 

[Leilei]

wow - thanks, I did not realize this :blushing:

and he's the "family spokesperson" this side of Dolan

To me, anything this family spokesperson has to say with regard to what happened that day should be taken with several cartons of salt. He wasn't even in the country, it's hearsay, and that video...

My opinion MOOOoooooo :moo:

 

[krimekat]

I guess my main reason for posting was seeing Jahi referred to as 'the body'. Machine or not, as long as she is breathing and has a heartbeat, she is a person. And they are being insensitive to the family by saying 'the body'.

SNIPPED for space

It's okay if we disagree. I just think until the plug has been pulled, she shouldn't be called 'the body'.

But at least stop calling her 'the body'.)

It is my thought the care providers are helping the family realize Jahi is gone by referring to Jahi what she really is (brain dead) - what remains is just a body & when that vent is released, she will not long breathe on her own.

I so feel for the care staff working on a body . . .

 

[Karmady]

Thanks to Uncle Omar's big mouth, we now know the amount demanded in damages for the Violation of Privacy / Religious Beliefs lawsuit filed in federal court on Friday.

How much is Dolan think he is entitled to of that $30 million, over and above his fees. Isn't it usually at least 50%?

On a contingency, a lot of states cap it at 33 1/3. I think Cali has special caps for medmal/wrongful death, but probably not for the Fed. Ct. issue.

jmo

 

[krimekat]

Didn't watch this before though maybe most did.

Take note 5.11 the mother says Jahi is like a really big "asset" to the family.

Yes, that is what most heartbroken mothers would say about the death of their child.....their child was a really big "asset" to the family.


Chris Dolan on CNN representing the family of Jahi McMath - YouTube

Honestly that video was worse than everything I have read to date. Way worse than I could have imagined and my imagination is pretty extreme.

Jahi was referred to as "Mama Jahi" 'cause she took such great care of the younger kids I recall in her Mom's interviews

 

[krimekat]

Her heart still beats, her body is not decomposing. The family believes there is a chance she will spontaneously recover, and I support them.
And until that point, she should not be referred to as "a body"!!

BBM above: yes, she is decomposing from the inside out

 

[Karmady]

So what on earth was the point of first announcing that she will go to New Beginnings, then refusing to disclose the facility, then announcing that she will go to New Beginnings?

easy...that was to keep it private. You know, like they said, um, yesterday?

oy vey

jmo

 

[belimom]

It's just that I believe that however much we'd like to, we can't decide to keep anyone alive if they are already deceased. The only thing we can do at that point is to prolong their decay.

I actually agree. But I think this case was handled insensitively to begin with. Some cases aren't as cut and dry, with doctors disagreeing on chances of recovery. I just think in general it gets dangerous when we let the govt make decisions for people. The mom may be getting advice here that is making her more conflicted, but butting heads with the hospital hasn't helped.

 

[Zuri]

Karmady or any other legal speaking poster:
I don't understand the difference between Dolan signing/filing whatever it was in federal court versus the person who did. What is the significance of that? TIA

I am referencing post 889 on Thread 3 of this case. Aimee Kirby?

 

[Sonya610]

Jahi was referred to as "Mama Jahi" 'cause she took such great care of the younger kids I recall in her Mom's interviews

You think that is why the mother used the term "asset"?

I do not. That woman would NEVER use that term unless she was coached, she likely never used it before in her entire life.

 

[Ribbit]

You think that is why the mother used the term "asset"?

I do not. That woman would NEVER use that term unless she was coached, she likely never used it before in her entire life.

I'm imagining that Jahi being an asset to the family was part of explaining the monetary lawsuit to the mother. I don't think she was supposed to say it out loud.

 

[meme4]

I thought they wanted privacy.......My daughters and money would never be dicussed in the same sentence.........

 

[Karmady]

Karmady or any other legal speaking poster:
I don't understand the difference between Dolan signing/filing whatever it was in federal court versus the person who did. What is the significance of that? TIA

You mean the affidavit? Someone was talking about whether Dolan could be responsible for misrepresentations to the court in that document. Turns out, the "facts" in the affidavit were provided by his associate, not him. Nothing unusual about that, per se. But it would be her butt in the sling, not his, if the "facts" turned out to be knowingly false since she's the one who swore to them. Another possibility is that her distance from the case and the family might provide her with more credible deniability. Again, though, I don't think anything would ever come of it for the reasons I mentioned in another post. jmo

sorry for the long-winded response if that's not what you're talking about lol

 

[krimekat]

Thanks was not enough

Dolan wants paid by CHO - who's in this for $$$$$$$$/compensation ?!

sorry for quoting my own post but apparently the Uncle wants some compensation, too . . . really? Chump Change? I have not watched the video yet but really?

 

[sherbetjello]

You think that is why the mother used the term "asset"?

I do not. That woman would NEVER use that term unless she was coached, she likely never used it before in her entire life.

I think that she has picked up some jargon from the attorney. The mother, in that moment, seemed at a loss for words when speaking of Jahi (due to pressure or emotion), and seemed to just pick a word that seemed familiar or on the tip of her tongue.

 

[krimekat]

Breach as defined at the website does not make it okay for any rep of CHO to speak to the media. The definition of exceptions is very clear. I am not sure what I am incorrect about.

CHO commented on court proceedings - NOT covered under HIPAA

 

[krimekat]

Cue filing for an open-ended TRO while New Beginnings finishes building their facility.

Their FB page says nothing about this so far.

August? Will they be ready for a declared brain dead body then?

All you have to do is look at the repairs needed for that facility and know Jahi's body will not last that long . . . maybe the Courts think it will - we'll know on Tuesday

 

[sherbetjello]

I highly doubt the millions they are hoping to get would go towards the facility.

This family is nothing but a bunch of grifters.

I don't think the family would even finish giving the compensation to whatever they plan on giving to the facility once Jahi's heart goes out. I would be worried at another lawsuit in that case; you know, they weren't able to keep her alive after they were trying so hard to keep her alive at CHO, etc. etc.

It's a never ending LOSING battle, and poor Jahi (I will refer to her in name so no one here is upset) is trapped in it all.

 

[meme4]

Asset and mucus, words im sure we all use everyday, especially in connection with our kids.....

 

[otto]

I thought he was talking about his perception of the hospital's motives in wanting to shut Jahi's ventilator down. 250.000 dollars is chump change to them but they wouldn't want to pay millions.

Does dragging this out make any difference to the lawsuit aspect at this point? She was already a coroner's case when this video was made, from the mother's comments. So I don't really see how disconnecting the ventilator or not disconnecting it would make any difference as to the amount of money there is at stake. As long as there is a legal death certificate the child is dead in the eyes of the courts, isn't she? She won't be considered alive just because the family chooses to keep her on a ventilator indefinitely.

There certainly is an allegation that the hospital knew that the child was alive and that for financial reasons, the hospital wanted to declare the child deceased.

Next time the lawyer speaks with media, someone should ask him what factors make this a 30 million dollar case versus a $250,000 case.