Father says DNA could solve one of country’s biggest murder mysteries: Who killed JonBenét Ramsey #2

[Val1943]

Also there has to be three killers in the Ramsey`s house that night because the one killer that wrote in the
THE RANSOM LETTER
The two gentlemen watching over your daughter
Two footprints were found in the wine cellar of the Ramsey home where JonBenét Ramsey was murdered?

 

[Val1943]

He could be one of those three killers in the Ramsey`s house and also try find him today. I `m still guessing the three were John `s ex-employees were from the Philippines , and were fired and why they wanted John `s Christmas bonus money. ' In finding the

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ex-employees names in 1996 to track them down.and finding their relatives

 

[GRT]

It is frustrating that he is just allowed to propagate the lies unquestioned / unchallenged by the media when being interviewed. But I guess they're still too afraid of getting sued. Those of us who know the case know he's lying. All the newbies drawn to this case by the Netflix show do not.

The Netflix show did raise a lot of interest, but many of us who've followed the case for decades always felt the lies came mainly from the BPD. In fact, most people I know who paid attention back then have come around and admitted that the family was likely not involved.

But, there are a few who are still hanging on to the BPD's (and the tabloid's) tales like a pit bull with a favorite bone.

MOO

 

[Val1943]

I`M still GUESSING THE KILLERS ARE FROM THE PHILIPPINES ?

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966, served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years, and in an Atlanta reserve unit for an additional eight years

THE RANSOM LETTER

,Victory!
S.B.T.C

S.B.T.C, Security Bank and Trust Company, was the original name of Security Bank, a leading universal bank in the Philippines.Security Bank and Trust Company,?

The Philippines?

Mr. Ramsey,

Listen carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction.

The Philippines?

THIS CASE COULD BE SOLVED IN THE Philippines Criminal DATA BASE DNA?Yes in finding the matching to the male`s DNA was found on JonBenét Ramsey's clothing and a weapon in the 1996 murder case

 

[Val1943]

All on the true crime forums they blamed John Patsy Burke did this horrible crime

John Patsy Burke were innocent

The laws got to find the unknown male`s DNA found on JonBenét Ramsey's clothing and a weapon

 

[Val1943]

Over the years, police have looked at multiple suspects: John and his late wife Patsy, and their son Burke, were considered suspects early on, and authorities have since apologized for casting suspicion on them.

John Ramsey Reveals Why He's Encouraged Daughter JonBenét's Murder Will be Solved After Meeting with Police

John Ramsey drove from his Moab, Utah, home to meet with police in Boulder, Colo., where JonBenét was murdered in 1996.

people.com

 

[Ponytale]

The Netflix show did raise a lot of interest, but many of us who've followed the case for decades always felt the lies came mainly from the BPD. In fact, most people I know who paid attention back then have come around and admitted that the family was likely not involved.

But, there are a few who are still hanging on to the BPD's (and the tabloid's) tales like a pit bull with a favorite bone.

MOO

No theory has been proven to be true or false.
No-ones guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
No-one is eliminated as a suspect.
So no theory should be regarded as less worthy of discussion than some other.

Regardless where and when it comes from. People should be able to form their opinions by their own beliefs and those beliefs should be respected, even if they do not align with yours.

Some believe it was Patsy, some believe it was John. Some believe Burke and some an intruder/friend. And they are all welcomed ideas that help us keep an open mind and see others perspectives too. Don't they? So wouldn't it be more fair to say "people believe in different theories", see it as a good thing in a sleuthing forum, and accept it?

I see no reason why we all should believe the same. Unless we are here for the reason to make others believe exactly what we do. But that would be wrong, right?

 

[Slebby]

But, there are a few who are still hanging on to the BPD's (and the tabloid's) tales like a pit bull with a favorite bone.

MOO

SBM

I think this is a very unfair characterization.
MOO

 

[GRT]

SBM

I think this is a very unfair characterization.
MOO

I apologize. I was just trying to get across the idea that many who still believe the Ramseys were somehow involved were victims of tabloids, and not the real evidence.

There is unknown male DNA mixed with JBR's blood -- in her panties! Right in the crotch of her panties--and there are two composite spots with the same DNA.

It's very clear that whoever's DNA that is mixed with JBR's blood, is the likely killer.

I just don't understand why some people keep ignoring that. But, I could have put it better, so I'm sorry about that.

 

[GRT]

No theory has been proven to be true or false.
No-ones guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
No-one is eliminated as a suspect.
So no theory should be regarded as less worthy of discussion than some other.

Regardless where and when it comes from. People should be able to form their opinions by their own beliefs and those beliefs should be respected, even if they do not align with yours.

Some believe it was Patsy, some believe it was John. Some believe Burke and some an intruder/friend. And they are all welcomed ideas that help us keep an open mind and see others perspectives too. Don't they? So wouldn't it be more fair to say "people believe in different theories", see it as a good thing in a sleuthing forum, and accept it?

I see no reason why we all should believe the same. Unless we are here for the reason to make others believe exactly what we do. But that would be wrong, right?

Good post and it gets us back on the right track.

We can share our ideas and theories and stick to the facts.

Thanks for this!

 

[Ponytale]

I apologize. I was just trying to get across the idea that many who still believe the Ramseys were somehow involved were victims of tabloids, and not the real evidence.

There is unknown male DNA mixed with JBR's blood -- in her panties! Right in the crotch of her panties--and there are two composite spots with the same DNA.

It's very clear that whoever's DNA that is mixed with JBR's blood, is the likely killer.

I just don't understand why some people keep ignoring that. But, I could have put it better, so I'm sorry about that.

There is no real evidence out there available for us to support any theory beyond a reasonable doubt, is there?

I do not see myself as a victim of an tabloid. I haven't even read one since I live in another country and JonBenet's case has never been discussed here publicly. I base my theory on what is available for me to know. I read, see and learn. We lack a lot of evidence, no matter what theory one believes.

Yes, there is unknown DNA, but that is not a proof of an intruder - it can be explained in multiple ways.
I'm not ignoring the DNA, most of us here don't ignore it, IMO, as I have noticed. But as long as we do not know the actual source of the DNA, and we do not have a match, we can discuss in both ways - whether it is significant to the case or it is not significant to the case. Both ways are correct and should be discussed.

We can point to the DNA as EVIDENCE only if we one day finally learn the true story behind it and can state it as a fact. Until that day it is just a matter of opinion.

 

[snarast]

Also there has to be three killers in the Ramsey`s house that night because the one killer that wrote in the
THE RANSOM LETTER
The two gentlemen watching over your daughter
Two footprints were found in the wine cellar of the Ramsey home where JonBenét Ramsey was murdered?

paraphrasing the RN - ”I would advise you” to not look to the RN for true stattments.

 

[AddieBoo]

The Netflix show did raise a lot of interest, but many of us who've followed the case for decades always felt the lies came mainly from the BPD. In fact, most people I know who paid attention back then have come around and admitted that the family was likely not involved.

But, there are a few who are still hanging on to the BPD's (and the tabloid's) tales like a pit bull with a favorite bone.

MOO

I apologize. I was just trying to get across the idea that many who still believe the Ramseys were somehow involved were victims of tabloids, and not the real evidence.

There is unknown male DNA mixed with JBR's blood -- in her panties! Right in the crotch of her panties--and there are two composite spots with the same DNA.

It's very clear that whoever's DNA that is mixed with JBR's blood, is the likely killer.

I just don't understand why some people keep ignoring that. But, I could have put it better, so I'm sorry about that.

FYI IIRC the Ramsey’s did one or two stories with the tabloids…. “National Inquirer?” Dunno how much they were paid. Maybe it’s around that time they were living in the trailer park and were strapped for cash.

Also… back in the day, those tabloid reporters were the highest paid and were pursued by “catch and kill” politicians, companies, millionaires…routinely.

 

[Angela_Beckett]

I`M still GUESSING THE KILLERS ARE FROM THE PHILIPPINES ?

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966, served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years, and in an Atlanta reserve unit for an additional eight years

THE RANSOM LETTER

,Victory!
S.B.T.C

S.B.T.C, Security Bank and Trust Company, was the original name of Security Bank, a leading universal bank in the Philippines.Security Bank and Trust Company,?

The Philippines?

Mr. Ramsey,

Listen carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction.

The Philippines?

THIS CASE COULD BE SOLVED IN THE Philippines Criminal DATA BASE DNA?Yes in finding the matching to the male`s DNA was found on JonBenét Ramsey's clothing and a weapon in the 1996 murder case

The Philippines does not yet have a Criminal DNA Database.

As I see it, they only recently authorized its creation, so it would be difficult to find in this supposed database, which does not yet exist, the DNA of someone who committed this crime in the United States so many years ago. IMHO

National DNA Database Act gets Senate approval on 3rd reading

The Senate on Monday approved on third and final reading the proposed National DNA Database Act with a vote of 20-0-0.

www.gmanetwork.com

 

[Slebby]

The Philippines does not yet have a Criminal DNA Database.

As I see it, they only recently authorized its creation, so it would be difficult to find in this supposed database, which does not yet exist, the DNA of someone who committed this crime in the United States so many years ago. IMHO

National DNA Database Act gets Senate approval on 3rd reading

The Senate on Monday approved on third and final reading the proposed National DNA Database Act with a vote of 20-0-0.

www.gmanetwork.com

I’ve read most books related to this case, and followed closely. I’ve never seen mention of a theory on the part of the Rs nor LE that the killer is from the Philippines.
Have I missed something?

 

[Angela_Beckett]

I’ve read most books related to this case, and followed closely. I’ve never seen mention of a theory on the part of the Rs nor LE that the killer is from the Philippines.
Have I missed something?

You haven't missed anything actually. It's just a fellow websleuther who fervently insists that the DNA found in JB belongs to a Filipino criminal, go figure

 

[GRT]

There is no real evidence out there available for us to support any theory beyond a reasonable doubt, is there?

I do not see myself as a victim of an tabloid. I haven't even read one since I live in another country and JonBenet's case has never been discussed here publicly. I base my theory on what is available for me to know. I read, see and learn. We lack a lot of evidence, no matter what theory one believes.

Yes, there is unknown DNA, but that is not a proof of an intruder - it can be explained in multiple ways.
I'm not ignoring the DNA, most of us here don't ignore it, IMO, as I have noticed. But as long as we do not know the actual source of the DNA, and we do not have a match, we can discuss in both ways - whether it is significant to the case or it is not significant to the case. Both ways are correct and should be discussed.

We can point to the DNA as EVIDENCE only if we one day finally learn the true story behind it and can state it as a fact. Until that day it is just a matter of opinion.

Mitch Morrisy thinks the DNA is key to solving the murder.

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that's a few years old where he talks about the DNA but also about what happened with the grand jury and he hints at how/why they decided as they did.

 

[GRT]

I’ve read most books related to this case, and followed closely. I’ve never seen mention of a theory on the part of the Rs nor LE that the killer is from the Philippines.
Have I missed something?

I don't really think so. Not a real theory that got any traction at any rate.

 

[AddieBoo]

You haven't missed anything actually. It's just a fellow websleuther who fervently insists that the DNA found in JB belongs to a Filipino criminal, go figure

Agree. But does anyone know if the student who cared for Doug Stine was ever questioned? IIRC he was live in nanny. Was DS special needs?
This student was of Asian descent?

 

[AddieBoo]

Mitch Morrisy thinks the DNA is key to solving the murder.

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that's a few years old where he talks about the DNA but also about what happened with the grand jury and he hints at how/why they decided as they did.

That interview was interesting in the beginning - but towards the end my “bias’ meter was going off…