FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #28

[Ferpo]

The Markel case isn’t the only case the SAO has on their plates

The case with the most attention right now in Leon County is the FSU shooter murders by Phoenix Ikner. Jack Campbell is pursuing the death penalty, something not done frequently. Even though it's a slam-dunk case and there are mountains of evidence and witnesses, it will have extreme media coverage and public scrutiny.

 

[apeXperience]

Please, kindly excuse this long post. And I will stay quiet thereafter.

[...] my interpretation was that some not-so-smart keyboard warriors (like myself) initially thought "apex" meant she was untouchable simply because she is a member of the Florida Bar. However, it actually meant that because she is a member of the Bar, the SOA’s Office knows a case against her will be difficult since she’s not "dumb" like non-Bar members Donna and Charlie, both of whom incriminated themselves post-murder. Therefore, we should continue to "stay tuned" until the SAO figures out how to deal with this smart member of the Florida Bar.

Oh thanks. That’s what I thought apex meant.
The simple reason that the SAO hasn’t arrested Wendi is because they don’t have enough to convict. I don’t think her bar status factors into it at all. And the reason they don’t have enough is because Wendi was insulated. Occam’s Razor.

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Wewant informed discusssions and sleuthings toward More Justice For Dan Markel.

From 2006 after graduation, to 2013 when the conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder was alleged to have started according to Magbanua's testimony, Wendi Adelson has had clerked at a Florida Judge's chamber. And, this is not an easy job if one knows a little about US courts in general and Florida courts in particular. Only the best of their cohort and/or the hooked privileged ... get to be assigned to any Judge, out of law school. She has taught law courses at FSU's School of Law, and ... she has had several acquaintances who were lawyers ... including star (***) writer Harvard University graduate educated Dan Markel!

What makes it so obscure to comprehend that she must have some modicum knowledge of the rules of evidence in the Florida criminal proceeding such that her utterances since 2013 with graduate educated "friends" such as Jeff LaCasse and Tamara Demnko and Sara Yousef etc... and investigator of TPD ... and on the stand at 4 trials ... are prudent, informed and advised ... including by big calibers such as John Lauro? Yes, she has made mistakes but ... she held her ground for the most part, I take it.

As an alternate potential outcome, look at what happened to Magbanua, and Charles Adelson, and Donna Adelson ... as a results of their mouth running much in recorded calls, and Matsuri restaurant utterance, and Dolce Vita restaurant utterance, and phone calls after FBI "speed bump".

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Yeah I highly doubt she's working as an immigration lawyer. She's a fantasist and a pathological liar. I doubt she's even a competent lawyer.

Is Wendi Adelson the ill fantasist here?

Here are two basic ideas from "Rule 404. Character Evidence etc. :

1) "Evidence of a person’s character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait."
and 2) Notice in criminal case: [...] the prosecutor must: (a) provide reasonable notice of any such evidence [...] and (b) articulate in the notice the permitted purpose for which the prosecutor intends to offer the evidence and the reasoning that supports the purpose.

These are not created fantasies but rather blunt trial rules that would dumb the reapeat slander of "pathological liar" and 101 indications of guilt from YT clickbait lawyer, ... "indications" instead of admissible evidences.

How to check for “Certificates of Good Standing” according to Florida Supreme Court:

Certificates of Good Standing / Clerk / The Court - - Florida Supreme Court

Certificates of Good Standing / Clerk / The Court - - Florida Supreme Court

supremecourt.flcourts.gov

“If you need a disciplinary history, please contact the Lawyer Regulation Division of The Florida Bar at [email protected] or (850) 561-5839 or by mail at 651 East Jefferson Street, Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2300. Please check The Florida Bar's website for disciplinary information for the prior ten years using the Find a Lawyer Page” I checked ... and please find attached below.

One final note about lawyers who are owners of PA (professional association)

In Florida, PAs may provide services only through individuals licensed by the State. These licenses are periodically renewed and require periodic and reoccurring updates of praticum and education credits. A licenced PAs in Florida migh work in the State of Texas. Instead of individual cases, most PAs' customers are boutique law firms, legal counsels of large organizations such as universities and hospitals, and legal counsels of local governments.

The fantasy of "Wendi Adelson is not employable" is entertained by ... Wendi Adelson herself when she says to the effect that she works only part time. That is because she is smartly deceptive as her responses to Georgia Cappleman's questions indicate.

The truth could be far from that part time work given that she is a Spanish speaking owner of a PA specialized in immigration, allowed to work in Florida and Texas. To put it in perspective, rather that a random lambda in conflict with ICE, some immigration cases for PAs involve the legal councel of large firms involved in agriculture when they want to gain work permits for their illegal immigrant workers. This is where the money is now in Florida and Texas.

 

[Zedzded]

How do we know she can speak Spanish? She can probably order a beer in broken Spanish and that's about it.

 

[apeXperience]

How do we know she can speak Spanish? She can probably order a beer in broken Spanish and that's about it.

What makes you think that she could fake that claim of professional attribute over long period of time in Florida and Texas?

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[Weki]

The case with the most attention right now in Leon County is the FSU shooter murders by Phoenix Ikner. Jack Campbell is pursuing the death penalty, something not done frequently. Even though it's a slam-dunk case and there are mountains of evidence and witnesses, it will have extreme media coverage and public scrutiny.

Ohhhhh who is prosecuting? I hope it’s live streamed.

 

[LinasK]

Please, kindly excuse this long post. And I will stay quiet thereafter.

[...] my interpretation was that some not-so-smart keyboard warriors (like myself) initially thought "apex" meant she was untouchable simply because she is a member of the Florida Bar. However, it actually meant that because she is a member of the Bar, the SOA’s Office knows a case against her will be difficult since she’s not "dumb" like non-Bar members Donna and Charlie, both of whom incriminated themselves post-murder. Therefore, we should continue to "stay tuned" until the SAO figures out how to deal with this smart member of the Florida Bar.
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Oh thanks. That’s what I thought apex meant.
The simple reason that the SAO hasn’t arrested Wendi is because they don’t have enough to convict. I don’t think her bar status factors into it at all. And the reason they don’t have enough is because Wendi was insulated. Occam’s Razor.

<Modsnip- rude>

Wewant informed discusssions and sleuthings toward More Justice For Dan Markel.

From 2006 after graduation, to 2013 when the conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder was alleged to have started according to Magbanua's testimony, Wendi Adelson has had clerked at a Florida Judge's chamber. And, this is not an easy job if one knows a little about US courts in general and Florida courts in particular. Only the best of their cohort and/or the hooked privileged ... get to be assigned to any Judge, out of law school. She has taught law courses at FSU's School of Law, and ... she has had several acquaintances who were lawyers ... including star (***) writer Harvard University graduate educated Dan Markel!

What makes it so obscure to comprehend that she must have some modicum knowledge of the rules of evidence in the Florida criminal proceeding such that her utterances since 2013 with graduate educated "friends" such as Jeff LaCasse and Tamara Demnko and Sara Yousef etc... and investigator of TPD ... and on the stand at 4 trials ... are prudent, informed and advised ... including by big calibers such as John Lauro? Yes, she has made mistakes but ... she held her ground for the most part, I take it.

As an alternate potential outcome, look at what happened to Magbanua, and Charles Adelson, and Donna Adelson ... as a results of their mouth running much in recorded calls, and Matsuri restaurant utterance, and Dolce Vita restaurant utterance, and phone calls after FBI "speed bump".

<Mod snip- rude, bickering, insulting>

Yeah I highly doubt she's working as an immigration lawyer. She's a fantasist and a pathological liar. I doubt she's even a competent lawyer.

Is Wendi Adelson the ill fantasist here?

Here are two basic ideas from "Rule 404. Character Evidence etc. :

1) "Evidence of a person’s character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait."
and 2) Notice in criminal case: [...] the prosecutor must: (a) provide reasonable notice of any such evidence [...] and (b) articulate in the notice the permitted purpose for which the prosecutor intends to offer the evidence and the reasoning that supports the purpose.

These are not created fantasies but rather blunt trial rules that would dumb the reapeat slander of "pathological liar" and 101 indications of guilt from YT clickbait lawyer, ... "indications" instead of admissible evidences.

How to check for “Certificates of Good Standing” according to Florida Supreme Court:

Certificates of Good Standing / Clerk / The Court - - Florida Supreme Court​

Certificates of Good Standing / Clerk / The Court - - Florida Supreme Court

supremecourt.flcourts.gov

“If you need a disciplinary history, please contact the Lawyer Regulation Division of The Florida Bar at [email protected] or (850) 561-5839 or by mail at 651 East Jefferson Street, Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2300. Please check The Florida Bar's website for disciplinary information for the prior ten years using the Find a Lawyer Page” I checked ... and please find attached below.

One final note about lawyers who are owners of PA (professional association)

In Florida, PAs may provide services only through individuals licensed by the State. These licenses are periodically renewed and require periodic and reoccurring updates of praticum and education credits. A licenced PAs in Florida migh work in the State of Texas. Instead of individual cases, most PAs' customers are boutique law firms, legal counsels of large organizations such as universities and hospitals, and legal counsels of local governments.

The fantasy of "Wendi Adelson is not employable" is entertained by ... Wendi Adelson herself when she says to the effect that she works only part time. That is because she is smartly deceptive as her responses to Georgia Cappleman's questions indicate.

The truth could be far from that part time work given that she is a Spanish speaking owner of a PA specialized in immigration, allowed to work in Florida and Texas. To put it in perspective, rather that a random lambda in conflict with ICE, some immigration cases for PAs involve the legal councel of large firms involved in agriculture when they want to gain work permits for their illegal immigrant workers. This is where the money is now in Florida and Texas.

The thing is, and you seem to keep ignoring me, is that her status with the Florida Bar is irrelevant to charging her. She's in "good standing" now, but she won't be once she has a murder or conspiracy charge and she can be disbarred at that point. The only salient point that I see you indirectly making is that she knows the legal system better than your average defendant because she's a lawyer- not simply because "she's in good standing". I don't think that these prosecutors are corrupt and would give her deference simply because she's a member of their profession.

 

[apeXperience]

The thing is, and you seem to keep ignoring me, is that her status with the Florida Bar is irrelevant to charging her. She's in "good standing" now, but she won't be once she has a murder or conspiracy charge and she can be disbarred at that point. The only salient point that I see you indirectly making is that she knows the legal system better than your average defendant because she's a lawyer- not simply because "she's in good standing". I don't think that these prosecutors are corrupt and would give her deference simply because she's a member of their profession.

In prior posts, there is zero basis that makes any literate reader infer that Leon County SAO prosecutors’ corruption or special deference toward a privileged member has been insinuated.

To the contrary, sir. In Florida, “Lawyer Complaints and Discipline” are serious matters: “As an official arm of the Florida Supreme Court, The Florida Bar’s Division of Lawyer Regulation protects the public by providing a means to address lawyer misconduct. The division accepts and investigates complaints against lawyers, and prosecutes those who engage in unethical conduct.”

Just for those who are not aware, Florida Bar publishes a monthly summary of disciplinary actions and annual discipline statistics. To illustrate the grave consequences of being slightly investigated, please kindly look here: SUPREME COURT DISCIPLINES 17 ATTORNEYS – The Florida Bar

Wendi Adelson is an admitted member of the Florida Bar, no one seems to dispute that. She is in good standing, for else disciplinary action would have appeared in any one monthly summary from 2006 to 2025.

Should the Leon County SAO have enough evidence to indict Wendi Adelson, they would have done that at any time in between May 2016 when Luis “Tato” Rivera turned state witness, and to date after her alleged co-conspirator mother has been indicted, tried, and sentenced to LWOP!

If one could suffer some attempt at levity, kindly just notice that Donna Adelson is NOT an admitted member of the Florida bar in good standing!

Nevertheless, from next week purported secret grand jury proceedings might be born one or a couple of indictments, those eager for More Justice For Dan Markel would hope for!

However, should the SAO’s lawyers imprudently move to indict Wendi Adelson without having scrupulously followed how the characters and rules on evidence are handled, they will be hugely embarrassed.

Take into consideration the attention this case has gathered since former State Attorney Meggs’ time … when he declined to indict Charles Adelson despite the Probable Cause Affidavit from TPD!

That makes scrutinizing the potential outcome of “Florida bar admitted member in good standing” Wendi Adelson’s alleged involvement important for Florida lawyers and other related professionals.

If the “admitted member of Florida bar in good standing” characterization and the consequences of that characterization on Wendi Adelson’s case remain unclear or offensive, it’s fine. Not everything has to be understood by everybody.


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[Going Rogue]

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individual cases, most PAs' customers are boutique law firms, legal counsels of large organizations such as universities and hospitals, and legal counsels of local governments.

The fantasy of "Wendi Adelson is not employable" is entertained by ... Wendi Adelson herself when she says to the effect that she works only part time. That is because she is smartly deceptive as her responses to Georgia Cappleman's questions indicate.

The truth could be far from that part time work given that she is a Spanish speaking owner of a PA specialized in immigration, allowed to work in Florida and Texas. To put it in perspective, rather that a random lambda in conflict with ICE, some immigration cases for PAs involve the legal councel of large firms involved in agriculture when they want to gain work permits for their illegal immigrant workers. This is where the money is now in Florida and Texas.

I’m unsure where the community stands on Wendi’s level of intelligence. Her academic achievements and awards, as outlined by Christopher DeCoste, speak for themselves, and she passed the Florida Bar. Setting all that aside, after observing her testify in four trials, I don’t see how anyone who watched her testify could doubt her intelligence. Lacasse portrayed Wendi as a helpless, immature, and needy adolescent incapable of functioning independently, as well as other unflattering labels and personality traits, but I’m not sure I fully agree with Jeff’s portrayal of Wendi. I don’t recall Jeff questioning her intelligence, but I can see how someone who believes Jeff’s characterization of Wendi might be left with the impression that she lacks intelligence. I don’t doubt that Wendi was flaky and eccentric, and I’d bet she didn’t give her all to Jeff in the relationship. Jeff told Isom he was seeing a therapist while in the relationship and blamed Wendi for having to spend 2k on his therapist – Jeff clearly has some deep resentment toward Wendi, and I’m really starting to wonder how accurate some of Jeff’s claims are. I previously said I believed 90% of what Jeff said, but I’ve now downgraded that to 80%.

As I said above, the way she handled herself during the four trials convinced me she is intelligent. If Wendi was involved in the plot, to your point, the fact that she has evaded justice for more than 11 years by not being a babbling fool like Donna and Charlie can be attributed to her intelligence and experience as a member of the Florida Bar in good standing. Does the person Jeff describes seem capable of evading justice for as long as Wendi has?

The two conclusions we can draw from the above – both can be true:

1. Wendi is intelligent​
2. Wendi wasn’t involved in the plot.​

I know 2 isn’t an option for most, so I guess most would agree she’s an intelligent member of the Florida Bar in good standing….

Disclaimer – the above opinion does not mean I believe Wendi is innocent

 

[Going Rogue]

Should the Leon County SAO have enough evidence to indict Wendi Adelson, they would have done that at any time in between May 2016 when Luis “Tato” Rivera turned state witness, and to date after her alleged co-conspirator mother has been indicted, tried, and sentenced to LWOP!

I’ve argued this point for four years. For a long time, comments like this were met with vitriolic responses in many other places. I think the reality of the strength of the evidence is finally sinking in for many who have always had an unwavering belief that the case was strong.

 

[opt]

The State has more evidence than risk tolerance.

 

[Zedzded]

1. Wendi is intelligent​

How do we define intelligence? She passed some exams with good marks, probably with the help of well paid tutors. I thought she did terrible on the stand coming across as quite obtuse, dim and slow witted and that's with her use and DU immunity and with GC taking it easy on her.

I think if Lauro has a brain fart and decides to put WA on the stand, GC will have a field day with her. But I don't think Lauro is that stupid which is a shame, as I would love to see her testify.

 

[Zedzded]

How come DA never faced the death penalty?

 

[yazoost]

Two important facts-

UM is nowhere near a top tier school (certainly not 15 years ago), not even in Florida (UF, FSU are). It's where people with money but no credentials go. She probably had great grades but a shitty LSAT. Why go from undergrad at Brandeis to UM if you can get into a better school?

Lawyers get charged with crimes all the time. There's an old joke/adage that a lawyer is more likely to NEED a criminal defense lawyer than he or she is to BE a criminal defense lawyer.

 

[Zedzded]

Two important facts-

UM is nowhere near a top tier school (certainly not 15 years ago), not even in Florida (UF, FSU are). It's where people with money but no credentials go. She probably had great grades but a shitty LSAT. Why go from undergrad at Brandeis to UM if you can get into a better school?

Lawyers get charged with crimes all the time. There's an old joke/adage that a lawyer is more likely to NEED a criminal defense lawyer than he or she is to BE a criminal defense lawyer.

Interesting. I think she claimed she got in to Harvard, but had to take her brain cancer survivor Dad to Machu Picchu..So I guess if she blitzed the LSAT she could have got in to one of the Ivy League schools?

 

[Weki]

I’m unsure where the community stands on Wendi’s level of intelligence. Her academic achievements and awards, as outlined by Christopher DeCoste, speak for themselves, and she passed the Florida Bar. Setting all that aside, after observing her testify in four trials, I don’t see how anyone who watched her testify could doubt her intelligence. Lacasse portrayed Wendi as a helpless, immature, and needy adolescent incapable of functioning independently, as well as other unflattering labels and personality traits, but I’m not sure I fully agree with Jeff’s portrayal of Wendi. I don’t recall Jeff questioning her intelligence, but I can see how someone who believes Jeff’s characterization of Wendi might be left with the impression that she lacks intelligence. I don’t doubt that Wendi was flaky and eccentric, and I’d bet she didn’t give her all to Jeff in the relationship. Jeff told Isom he was seeing a therapist while in the relationship and blamed Wendi for having to spend 2k on his therapist – Jeff clearly has some deep resentment toward Wendi, and I’m really starting to wonder how accurate some of Jeff’s claims are. I previously said I believed 90% of what Jeff said, but I’ve now downgraded that to 80%.

As I said above, the way she handled herself during the four trials convinced me she is intelligent. If Wendi was involved in the plot, to your point, the fact that she has evaded justice for more than 11 years by not being a babbling fool like Donna and Charlie can be attributed to her intelligence and experience as a member of the Florida Bar in good standing. Does the person Jeff describes seem capable of evading justice for as long as Wendi has?

The two conclusions we can draw from the above – both can be true:

1. Wendi is intelligent​
2. Wendi wasn’t involved in the plot.​

I know 2 isn’t an option for most, so I guess most would agree she’s an intelligent member of the Florida Bar in good standing….

Disclaimer – the above opinion does not mean I believe Wendi is innocent

You know what? You’re nothing but trouble.

Dang it!

I am one of those who wholly trusted Jeff’s characterization of Wendi. Being that he’s a social worker and all. Being that he spent a lot of time with her leading up to the murder and all. But now you’ve got me wondering??

Clearly, Wendi did not consider Jeff “her type.” She was not interested or attracted to him at all imo. He was just there. Mr. Nice Guy. And he was bending over backwards. Ever so helpful. The nerd dating the cheerleader who has her eyes on the football player. She was playing him and probably he interpreted her efforts to keep him at a distance as she’s so helpless and confused. Sexual politics with “the nice guy” isn’t always so nice. Ask me how I know.

Like I said before, Jeff’s ego is very much at play.

JMO

 

[Ferpo]

Ohhhhh who is prosecuting? I hope it’s live streamed.

So far I just see Jack Campbell's name on all of the motions. I would think it will be televised/streamed, by law.

 

[Going Rogue]

You know what? You’re nothing but trouble.

Dang it!

I am one of those who wholly trusted Jeff’s characterization of Wendi. Being that he’s a social worker and all. Being that he spent a lot of time with her leading up to the murder and all. But now you’ve got me wondering??

Clearly, Wendi did not consider Jeff “her type.” She was not interested or attracted to him at all imo. He was just there. Mr. Nice Guy. And he was bending over backwards. Ever so helpful. The nerd dating the cheerleader who has her eyes on the football player. She was playing him and probably he interpreted her efforts to keep him at a distance as she’s so helpless and confused. Sexual politics with “the nice guy” isn’t always so nice. Ask me how I know.

Like I said before, Jeff’s ego is very much at play.

JMO

LOL – I’ve been called a lot worse . I’m somewhat conflicted about Jeff. I can’t get over some clear exaggerations and embellishments in his story. I’ve shared examples before, and some are serious enough that I can’t just dismiss them. I get why everyone feels for Jeff. His pain is raw and 99% of us sympathize. But if we strip away emotions and look at his three police interviews, certain things jump out. It’s been a long time since I watched those interviews, but Wendi went from flawed but lovable to a full-on evil villain in his eyes.... and I think Jeff's depiction of Wendi, influenced a lot of people's views. In the first interview, he’d do anything to get her back. He shares his own negative take on Dan from his personal experience. Three days later, in the second interview, he says he’s no longer under her spell, walks back his comments on Dan, and blames his comments from 3 day earlier on Wendi’s influence – feels like damage control, knowing this might go public. Eight months later, he’s unloading, calling her a “narcissistic psychopath” with no empathy, tossing in new stuff like her potentially trying to frame him. He didn’t seem committed to the framing allegation in that third interview. He told Isom his friends pitched it, and Jeff called it “far-fetched.” But his friends urged him to mention it to law enforcement. I wonder how much of Jeff’s anger and resentment came from friends feeding him ideas? Fast forward to his trial testimony, Jeff, fully supported the “set up narrative.” His car was similar to the getaway car, and (my biggest issue) he claimed Wendi knew he was leaving at exactly 11:00a.m. on Friday. The claim Wendi knew his exact departure time was so incredibly huge to me and it's what initially prompted me to reevaluate Jeff. I thought, if he was willing to add that detail when its inconsistent with his police interview, what else might have he added? Maybe others don't see that as a big deal, to me it monumental.

As a social worker, Jeff’s trained to spot dysfunction, but his 2k therapy bill shows he was drowning in him own chaotic relationship. In his profession, he’s constantly dealing with troubled people, and I can see a tendency to “diagnose” those close to you, like a romantic partner, especially with odd behavior and cheating - maybe he overthought things? That lens might’ve turned Wendi’s quirks into a villainous plot in his mind, especially after her betrayal. Resentment can twist memories. I still give Jeff the benefit of the doubt and don’t think he’s purposely trying to bury her; I believe it’s likely done subconsciously. I do give Jeff a lot of credit, and my opinion of him isn't totally negative but I definitely question some of his opinions about Wendi and have an issue with what I call exaggeration and embellishment of certain details.

 

[Going Rogue]

How do we define intelligence? She passed some exams with good marks, probably with the help of well paid tutors. I thought she did terrible on the stand coming across as quite obtuse, dim and slow witted and that's with her use and DU immunity and with GC taking it easy on her.

I think if Lauro has a brain fart and decides to put WA on the stand, GC will have a field day with her. But I don't think Lauro is that stupid which is a shame, as I would love to see her testify.

I define intelligence in this context as a combination of cognitive ability, strategic thinking, and adaptability under pressure. Wendi’s academic achievements, bar passage, and her composed performance across four trials demonstrate these traits. Regardless of one’s view on her involvement, her ability to navigate complex legal scrutiny for over a decade suggests a high level of intellectual capability, even if her personal behavior, as described by Lacasse, might seem erratic or immature to some. As for her coming across as obtuse or slow, I disagree, but that could reflect strategic choices to avoid incrimination, especially with use and derivative use immunity.

 

[Wishbone]

LOL – I’ve been called a lot worse . I’m somewhat conflicted about Jeff. I can’t get over some clear exaggerations and embellishments in his story. I’ve shared examples before, and some are serious enough that I can’t just dismiss them. I get why everyone feels for Jeff. His pain is raw and 99% of us sympathize. But if we strip away emotions and look at his three police interviews, certain things jump out. It’s been a long time since I watched those interviews, but Wendi went from flawed but lovable to a full-on evil villain in his eyes.... and I think Jeff's depiction of Wendi, influenced a lot of people's views. In the first interview, he’d do anything to get her back. He shares his own negative take on Dan from his personal experience. Three days later, in the second interview, he says he’s no longer under her spell, walks back his comments on Dan, and blames his comments from 3 day earlier on Wendi’s influence – feels like damage control, knowing this might go public. Eight months later, he’s unloading, calling her a “narcissistic psychopath” with no empathy, tossing in new stuff like her potentially trying to frame him. He didn’t seem committed to the framing allegation in that third interview. He told Isom his friends pitched it, and Jeff called it “far-fetched.” But his friends urged him to mention it to law enforcement. I wonder how much of Jeff’s anger and resentment came from friends feeding him ideas? Fast forward to his trial testimony, Jeff, fully supported the “set up narrative.” His car was similar to the getaway car, and (my biggest issue) he claimed Wendi knew he was leaving at exactly 11:00a.m. on Friday. The claim Wendi knew his exact departure time was so incredibly huge to me and it's what initially prompted me to reevaluate Jeff. I thought, if he was willing to add that detail when its inconsistent with his police interview, what else might have he added? Maybe others don't see that as a big deal, to me it monumental.

As a social worker, Jeff’s trained to spot dysfunction, but his 2k therapy bill shows he was drowning in him own chaotic relationship. In his profession, he’s constantly dealing with troubled people, and I can see a tendency to “diagnose” those close to you, like a romantic partner, especially with odd behavior and cheating - maybe he overthought things? That lens might’ve turned Wendi’s quirks into a villainous plot in his mind, especially after her betrayal. Resentment can twist memories. I still give Jeff the benefit of the doubt and don’t think he’s purposely trying to bury her; I believe it’s likely done subconsciously. I do give Jeff a lot of credit, and my opinion of him isn't totally negative but I definitely question some of his opinions about Wendi and have an issue with what I call exaggeration and embellishment of certain details.

Proof of her lack of empathy is the treatment she has dished out to the Markel Family. JL hit the nail on the head when he stated that. WA is bad to the bone. JMOO

 

[Weki]

LOL – I’ve been called a lot worse . I’m somewhat conflicted about Jeff. I can’t get over some clear exaggerations and embellishments in his story. I’ve shared examples before, and some are serious enough that I can’t just dismiss them. I get why everyone feels for Jeff. His pain is raw and 99% of us sympathize. But if we strip away emotions and look at his three police interviews, certain things jump out. It’s been a long time since I watched those interviews, but Wendi went from flawed but lovable to a full-on evil villain in his eyes.... and I think Jeff's depiction of Wendi, influenced a lot of people's views. In the first interview, he’d do anything to get her back. He shares his own negative take on Dan from his personal experience. Three days later, in the second interview, he says he’s no longer under her spell, walks back his comments on Dan, and blames his comments from 3 day earlier on Wendi’s influence – feels like damage control, knowing this might go public. Eight months later, he’s unloading, calling her a “narcissistic psychopath” with no empathy, tossing in new stuff like her potentially trying to frame him. He didn’t seem committed to the framing allegation in that third interview. He told Isom his friends pitched it, and Jeff called it “far-fetched.” But his friends urged him to mention it to law enforcement. I wonder how much of Jeff’s anger and resentment came from friends feeding him ideas? Fast forward to his trial testimony, Jeff, fully supported the “set up narrative.” His car was similar to the getaway car, and (my biggest issue) he claimed Wendi knew he was leaving at exactly 11:00a.m. on Friday. The claim Wendi knew his exact departure time was so incredibly huge to me and it's what initially prompted me to reevaluate Jeff. I thought, if he was willing to add that detail when its inconsistent with his police interview, what else might have he added? Maybe others don't see that as a big deal, to me it monumental.

As a social worker, Jeff’s trained to spot dysfunction, but his 2k therapy bill shows he was drowning in him own chaotic relationship. In his profession, he’s constantly dealing with troubled people, and I can see a tendency to “diagnose” those close to you, like a romantic partner, especially with odd behavior and cheating - maybe he overthought things? That lens might’ve turned Wendi’s quirks into a villainous plot in his mind, especially after her betrayal. Resentment can twist memories. I still give Jeff the benefit of the doubt and don’t think he’s purposely trying to bury her; I believe it’s likely done subconsciously. I do give Jeff a lot of credit, and my opinion of him isn't totally negative but I definitely question some of his opinions about Wendi and have an issue with what I call exaggeration and embellishment of certain details.

I have to say that I was quite indifferent to Jeff in the beginning. I remember trying to listen to his interviews early on and feeling put off by how over-eager he seemed to insert himself into the case. I also think I was influenced by the detectives seeming lack of interest in what he had to say. He was talking so fast and being self-deprecating. I kinda got the highlights and stopped listening. I of course heard his testimony in full at the trials of Garcia and Magbanua.

Then I saw people commenting a ton about what he said about Wendi’s personality. As Wendi started to come up a whole lot more in online discussions I got interested in what he had to say so I finally listened to the whole thing. But I don’t think I spent too much time thinking about Jeff’s motivations/credibility. I saw him as an honest broker for the most part.

However, the first time I looked askance at Jeff was at Charlie’s trial. He definitely added a lot of color to his testimony. My mouth was literally agape and I was saying out loud “you didn’t say that last time.” I brought this up in chats and of course people weren’t having it. But my estimation of him was dinged for sure.

All this to say, you make a lot of good points. There should be no sacred cows in the search for truth and justice.

JMO