FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #14

[Fromeaster]

I read one comment that said it was a woman wearing oversized shoes as a diversion I would bet all the money in the world that it's a dude. There's a couple of cases (like Missy Bevers) were people are obsessed with the suspect being a woman, when the evidence and stats will clearly prove otherwise. For reasons I cannot fathom right now, it's almost as if they WANT it to be a woman.

The motive is probably obvious: rape and murder. So it's strange that they see a woman, just by logical thinking.

 

[moonglow123]

Yeah, I understand thinking outside of the box but I never agreed with the speculation that it's a woman here. A woman overpowering Jennifer, murdering her and successfully hiding her body? A woman having motive to kill her to begin with? I just don't see it. Man for sure.

She was a very pretty young woman, who knows what creep noticed her and decided to target her.

 

[fridaybaker]

Yeah, I understand thinking outside of the box but I never agreed with the speculation that it's a woman here. A woman overpowering Jennifer, murdering her and successfully hiding her body? A woman having motive to kill her to begin with? I just don't see it. Man for sure.

She was a very pretty young woman, who knows what creep noticed her and decided to target her.

Yes, I do think J attracted quite a bit of attention. She was young, beautiful, vivacious and friendly, from all accounts. I'm sure she was noticed by many, many men. And, as we know, she definitely attracted attention at her building. Apparently, the workers would often stop/be silent when she walked by. She was very uncomfortable around them.

 

[Fromeaster]

I think this will be one of those cases where the answer is obvious, at least it's obvious to me that it was done by construction workers.

 

[AAApopo]

I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I agree. The sort of forward leaning,as well as the overall shape. Even the hair.

The dogs also tracked the scent of Jennifer all the way back to her apartment complex from where her car was parked. IMO that is because the suspect had her scent on him. Why would the suspect go back to the complex if they didn't live or work there? They wouldn't.

 

[flgrl017]

trying to picture someone assaulting or kidnapping her, where her car becomes involved and she (or her body) ends up inside it, but preferably isn't super high risk, attention-grabbing behavior...

i think one of these seems likely:
- someone assaults her as she's getting into the car. if conspicuously, the perp then gets them both out of there quickly.
- someone assaults her on her way to her car, without being too conspicuous. e.g., pulls a gun and says "shut up and get in the car".
- the initial encounter and maybe also entering the car together was voluntary. believable if it's someone she knew. then things turned bad later. planned or not.

what doesn't seem likely to me:
- someone assaults her outside her apartment, conspicuously and for an extended period of time
- someone assaults her inside her apartment and then moves her or her body to her car
- someone assaults her in or near her apartment, disposes of her body on site, and then moves her car for some reason

I don’t believe she was in the car once she was kidnapped due to the condition the car was found and it didn’t seem to be throughly cleaned due to the dust on it plus they admitted there were over a hundred finger prints inside it. I will attach the pics of the car as found. I think the items would have been knocked off the area between the seats if there would have been a struggle. You can also see dust particles all over the console so that tells me the car wasn’t cleaned that well. For years they stated only one print was found inside her vehicle suggesting a thorough cleaning but on a recent show the detective admitted there a lot of prints found inside. This leads me to believe that Jennifer made it to her car safely at some point and drove to wherever she was attacked. I don’t believe she was killed at Mosaic since it seems the car didn’t go directly from Mosaic to HOTG.

 

[flgrl017]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but it would be good to know the who, what and when of the neighbor knocking Jennifer's door. I've read conflicting reports. Some claim it happened while she was talking to Drew, another version said Jennifer was talking to a friend at the time. Some claim it happened the evening Jen disappeared, others claim it was weeks before. Apparently, one of the upstairs neighbors was a registered sex offender who moved away and has since died?

For my own knowledge, I'd like to know if it's a red herring or not?

Drew first mentioned there was a knock on her door Monday evening on Unconcluded podcast episode 24. Then on episode 50 Drew stated he was mistaken and the knock had occurred before she left for St Croix. Fast forward several years. Drew gave an interview 2 years ago stating there was a knock Monday night sometime between 6:30 and 7:00 pm. I’ll link it. It seems like someone was waiting on her to get home which is interesting. She passed through the toll on the way home at 6:16 pm so this knock was right after she got back from being gone several days.


The part about the knock starts around 13 min 50 sec.

 

[flgrl017]

The dogs also tracked the scent of Jennifer all the way back to her apartment complex from where her car was parked. IMO that is because the suspect had her scent on him. Why would the suspect go back to the complex if they didn't live or work there? They wouldn't.

There was other dog they think may have been following the perp.

 

[Lebowski]

I think this will be one of those cases where the answer is obvious, at least it's obvious to me that it was done by construction workers.

they're certainly an obvious possibility. but they're certainly not the only possibility.

when people worry about violent crimes, it's usually strangers they're picturing. but statistically, I believe all the major ones people worry about -- murder, SA, kidnapping -- are usually committed by people who knew the victim.

for young female victims in particular, intimate partners are very overrepresented as perps. current ones, former ones, soon to be former ones, and rejected wannabe ones.

 

[flgrl017]

they're certainly an obvious possibility. but they're certainly not the only possibility.

when people worry about violent crimes, it's usually strangers they're picturing. but statistically, I believe all the major ones people worry about -- murder, SA, kidnapping -- are usually committed by people who knew the victim.

for young female victims in particular, intimate partners are very overrepresented as perps. current ones, former ones, soon to be former ones, and rejected wannabe ones.

It’s also interesting that Rich Ring stated that economic crimes investigated this case (HOBD). I’m not convinced the motive was a SA or if she was ever kidnapped. I think it’s possible Jennifer was murdered and then her body hidden.