FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

[LetsSolvIt]

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Officer: "She doesn't have any other kind of technology that you guys can track? I'm sure you guys already checked."

Sterns: "No texts. No nothing. Normally she has her phone. But she left it at home."

Bodycam shows a calm Stephan Sterns, Jennifer Soto day after Madeline went missing

"She has ADHD. She is very forgetful," Jennifer Soto said about Madeline the day after the 13-year-old was reported missing.

www.wesh.com

Do these two utterances seem somewhat contradictory?

Jen Soto: "That is normal for her. She has ADHD. She is very forgetful. I always have to remind her."
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Sterns: "No texts. No nothing. Normally she has her phone. But she left it at home."

Bodycam shows a calm Stephan Sterns, Jennifer Soto day after Madeline went missing

"She has ADHD. She is very forgetful," Jennifer Soto said about Madeline the day after the 13-year-old was reported missing.

www.wesh.com

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Do these two utterances seem somewhat contradictory?

Jen Soto: "That is normal for her. She has ADHD. She is very forgetful. I always have to remind her."
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Sterns: "No texts. No nothing. Normally she has her phone. But she left it at home."

Bodycam shows a calm Stephan Sterns, Jennifer Soto day after Madeline went missing

"She has ADHD. She is very forgetful," Jennifer Soto said about Madeline the day after the 13-year-old was reported missing.

www.wesh.com

Why yes, they do.

It has always struck me so odd that in almost every interview, JS makes a point to say that Maddie was so very forgetful that she often forgot her phone.

It's also struck me as odd that in all of the interviews that have been released, not a single LE has asked Maddie's friends if she frequently left her phone at home.

 

[Seattle1]

IANAL and I may be mistaken, but I think JS was granted immunity only for that one interview.

AFAIK she has not been granted full immunity for anything.

Corrections welcome.

The three types of immunity that could be extended to a cooperating witness are use immunity, derivative use immunity, and transactional immunity. JS was offered "derivative use immunity" and not transactional or "full immunity."

Derivative Use Immunity: The better, more extensive immunity is called “derivative use immunity” because it prevents the government from using not only the witness’s direct statements and evidence against them, but it also protects the witness from any evidence derived through additional investigation based on the witness’s proffered information. It guards individuals from the “derivative use” of the information they share during a proffer session.

Of course, neither use immunity nor derivative use immunity prevents the government from using evidence against the witness that was derived from entirely independent sources and investigation. While the witness’s cooperation would be considered mitigating and perhaps reduce the length and nature of their ultimate sentence, they might still be prosecuted.

There are several scenarios in which the government could prosecute the witness even after they entered into the immunity agreement. For example, failing to tell the truth, exaggerate others’ guilt, and minimize their own inaccurately, the government can consider that untruthfulness a breach of the agreement, freeing it from the obligation to honor the immunity. More at the link below.

Proffer & Derivative Use Immunity Explained | Stechschulte Nell

Understand the nuances of proffer sessions and derivative use immunity in criminal investigations. Your rights are protected with Stechschulte Nell of Tampa.

www.tpatrialattorneys.com

 

[FromGermany1]

Do these two utterances seem somewhat contradictory?

Jen Soto: "That is normal for her. She has ADHD. She is very forgetful. I always have to remind her."
V.
Sterns: "No texts. No nothing. Normally she has her phone. But she left it at home."

Bodycam shows a calm Stephan Sterns, Jennifer Soto day after Madeline went missing

"She has ADHD. She is very forgetful," Jennifer Soto said about Madeline the day after the 13-year-old was reported missing.

www.wesh.com

I believe, that the two "parents" themselves made sure, that Maddie often didn't take her cell phone to school (for specific reasons) and convinced her, that she had ADHD and had therefore probably forgotten it "again". It was safer for the "parents" to monitor Maddie's communication, when she was at home. And probably they had valid reasons to control her communication (after a night with SS or similar). MOO

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I believe, that the two "parents" themselves made sure, that Maddie often didn't take her cell phone to school (for specific reasons) and convinced her, that she had ADHD and had therefore probably forgotten it "again". It was safer for the "parents" to monitor Maddie's communication, when she was at home. And probably they had valid reasons to control her communication (after a night with SS or similar). MOO

Setting MS up to appear ADHD like helping her “forget” her phone, homework, etc., and making sure she saw herself as scattered, inattentive, and forgetful (incompetent), might also reinforce the appropriate answers she needed to report to her therapist/doctor to make sure she received prescriptions for Concerta or similar, so SS would have his supply.

 

[ttjo]

Setting MS up to appear ADHD like helping her “forget” her phone, homework, etc., and making sure she saw herself as scattered, inattentive, and forgetful (incompetent), might also reinforce the appropriate answers she needed to report to her therapist/doctor to make sure she received prescriptions for Concerta or similar, so SS would have his supply.

Poor kid, meds to sleep, meds to wake up, probably not given consistently, which messes with you too. That scattered , inattentiveness, passed off as adhd, instead of trauma. how sick is this guy??

 

[Gemmie]

Today would have been Maddie's 14th birthday had that monster not taken her life away from her almost a year ago today. She had so many interests and so much to offer the world as a kind, smart, human being. Unlike the person that took her future from her who is pretty much a worthless individual in my eyes. That saddens me that she is gone, and he's still here asking mommie and daddy for root beer barrels to pacify him.

 

[ttjo]

I'm not saying that she doesnt have ADHD, I couldn't possibly know that Just saying there are many crossovers between ADHD and trauma.

source:

ADHD and Complex Trauma

Article on "ADHD and Complex Trauma"

www.childdevelopmentclinic.com.au

 

[ttjo]

Today would have been Maddie's 14th birthday had that monster not taken her life away from her almost a year ago today. She had so many interests and so much to offer the world as a kind, smart, human being. Unlike the person that took her future from her who is pretty much a worthless individual in my eyes. That saddens me that she is gone, and he's still here asking mommie and daddy for root beer barrels to pacify him.

so contradictory that he was acting and whining to his parent's like he was the child while his defence is working double time to keep him from being a "dead man walkin'."

 

[Leilei]

Happy birthday in Heaven, Maddie <3
For those in the area, there is a memorial service today.

Memorial service for Madeline Soto to be held Saturday; here's the details

With the one-year anniversary of the disappearance and death of 13-year-old Kissimmee student Madeline Soto approaching, a remembrance service will be held on Saturday in St. Cloud.

www.aroundosceola.com

 

[Gemmie]

Happy birthday in Heaven, Maddie <3
For those in the area, there is a memorial service today.

Memorial service for Madeline Soto to be held Saturday; here's the details

With the one-year anniversary of the disappearance and death of 13-year-old Kissimmee student Madeline Soto approaching, a remembrance service will be held on Saturday in St. Cloud.

www.aroundosceola.com

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't mention family. Sure, I suppose you could say they are advocates, but I'd think it would specifically say "family" if they're planning on attending. I'm betting JS doesn't attend. I wish we could find out where she's been at for the past year, and what she's been up to.

Soto's friends and advocates will gather at 5 p.m.

 

[MamaSleuth5]

Happy birthday, beautiful Maddie.

 

[Gemmie]

They are saying this is new bodycam video of SS and JS (mostly SS). I'm sure those that have watched every video out there will know if it's really new or not. (I'm lookin' at you, @ttjo. lol)

 

[Megnut]

They are saying this is new bodycam video of SS and JS (mostly SS). I'm sure those that have watched every video out there will know if it's really new or not. (I'm lookin' at you, @ttjo. lol)

It's new to me.

LE bodycam talking to SS beside his dad's car.

SS doubles down on MS being embarrassed by his car. Which is his dad's car. Officer points to SS's gun visible on the seat. Lord. SS tells him he had to put his gun there because he got the flat tire.

I can't stand listening to him.

JMO

 

[Leilei]

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't mention family. Sure, I suppose you could say they are advocates, but I'd think it would specifically say "family" if they're planning on attending. I'm betting JS doesn't attend. I wish we could find out where she's been at for the past year, and what she's been up to.

Soto's friends and advocates will gather at 5 p.m.

It is definitely not being held by family. The organizer has been instrumental in keeping Maddie's name and story out there, as well as getting the love lock memorial and others together. I wish that at least a couple of Maddie's family would attend, but I sure don't expect it.

 

[ttjo]

It's new to me.

LE bodycam talking to SS beside his dad's car.

SS doubles down on MS being embarrassed by his car. Which is his dad's car. Officer points to SS's gun visible on the seat. Lord. SS tells him he had to put his gun there because he got the flat tire.

I can't stand listening to him.

JMO

Back on June 17 post 865: we knew he told the cop " dont mind the donut" but I think we just heard audio not body cam. I also remember the cop telling him to cover up that gun. It may have just been audio tho, not video. I think its the first police interview of SS we heard.
The first time this video was posted was when it cut off after they answered the door and there was a girl sitting on the couch to the right when the cop arrived, she was edited ( cropped out) after a day or 2. I know I posted a pic of her, but I think it got deleted after she was cropped out ( privacy reasons Im sure

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I also now believe that she was aware he was filming the sex. At first I thought perhaps he got all those pics and videos because he had hidden cameras in the room, but now I'm not so sure.... He's so sick.

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Probably drugged, and out cold whenever it happened. Maybe one time she didn't take the nighttime meds and fought back. Maybe he forced her to take something,? Another useless call, to Jenn to tell her she took her meds and is in the shower. if that is her routine, then it should go without saying right?, After all, he is the routine police.
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[Gemmie]

It is definitely not being held by family. The organizer has been instrumental in keeping Maddie's name and story out there, as well as getting the love lock memorial and others together. I wish that at least a couple of Maddie's family would attend, but I sure don't expect it.

I meant family in attendance, not the event held by family.

 

[Leilei]

I meant family in attendance, not the event held by family.

Gotcha Thanks! I've been a little emotional today and wishing that I'd driven down there to attend, so my brain is elsewhere.
They will be live streaming it, though.
I've had to step away several times due to the ugliness and evil in Maddie's case, but she is never far from my mind and heart. We all have those victims who just stay with us. Maddie is mine.

 

[ttjo]

dbm,

 

[Gemmie]

Gotcha Thanks! I've been a little emotional today and wishing that I'd driven down there to attend, so my brain is elsewhere.
They will be live streaming it, though.
I've had to step away several times due to the ugliness and evil in Maddie's case, but she is never far from my mind and heart. We all have those victims who just stay with us. Maddie is mine.

Do you have a link so we can watch the livestream? I checked earlier and hadn't found one.

Thanks!