GUILTY FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, murdered, Celebration, Jan 2020 #2

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Tuesday, April 12th:
*Trial continues (Day 2) (@ 9am ET) – FL – Megan Denise Gula Todt (42), Aleksander (13), Tyler (11), Zoe (4) & dog Brezzy (last heard from Jan. 6, 2020, Celebration; found Jan. 13, 2020; LE believe they have been dead since Dec. 29, 2019) - *Anthony John Todt (44/now 46) arrested (1/15/20), charged (1/16/20), indicted (2/25/20) & arraigned (2/28/20) with 4 counts of premeditated murder & 1 count of animal cruelty. Charges changed (1/29/20) & arraigned (2/28/20) with 4 counts of 2nd degree murder & animal cruelty charge dismissed. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek DP & has changed mind on 1/4/21 will not seek DP.
Trial began with jury selection on 4/4/22 & ended 4/6/22. Trial began on 4/11/22. (2 week trial); 12 jurors & 2 alternates (8 women & 6 men). Assistant State Attorney Danielle Pinelle, Public Defender Robert Wesley & defense attorney Alicia Smith.
Confession & court info from 1/15/20 thru 3/31/22 & Jury Selection Day 1-3 (4/4 to 4/6/22) & 4/8/22 reference post #361 here:
Found Deceased - FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST* #2

4/11/22 Monday, Trial Day 1: Opening statements by Prosecutor Danielle Pinnell. Defense declined to do opening at this time.
for more info see post #374 here:
Found Deceased - FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST* #2
State witnesses: Sergio Montanez, 911 Operator. 911 call played from Chrissy Caplet. Robert Barroso, Osceola County Sheriff’s Office. Stephanie Koffinas, 911 Dispatcher. Ofc. Michael Phelps, Osceola County Sheriff’s Office. Christopher Boos, Osceola PD. Ofc. Emily Seda, Osceola Co. Sheriff’s Office (Forensic Technician).
for more info see post #380 here:
Found Deceased - FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST* #2
Trial continues on 4/12/22.
 
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So I haven't been following this case as closely as some of you, I just find this defendant absolutely repugnant. Has he changed his story again? First he said it was the wife who killed everybody and herself, now he is saying he had some sort of apocalyptic pact with her? Is anyone really buying this??

Ugh justice can't come soon enough!
 
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Wow! Why is he 'swaggering' around?! MOO
Also looks like he's lost a LOT of blubber...He's still pasty and unhealthy looking, tho. Imo

I think the pasty look has to do with being in jail. Especially with COVID, the inmates are probably fairly limited in the amount of sunshine they can get per day. I believe that in his letter he mentions something about being in a secure custody type situation rather than general population, because of being ‘concerned about his safety’ which, if it’s true, would limit it even more.
Moo
 
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On my lunch break, so I am going to transcribe yesterday’s tweets from the courtroom from the Orlando Sentinel.

For the latest updates, please follow reporter Monivette Cordeiro on Twitter at the following link.

https://twitter.com/monivettec

Monday, April 11, 2022
Note: All names outside of defendant and victims abbreviated by me.

Back at the Osceola courthouse, where a jury will hear opening statements from attorneys in the trial of Anthony Todt. The Connecticut physical therapist is accused in the 2020 killings of his wife, children and dog at their Central Florida home.

Anthony Todt suffocated kids, claimed death pact with wife, jurors told as trial begins

Jurors will hear from prosecutors only this morning. Todt's attorneys confirmed again they are deferring an opening statement.

ASA DP gives jurors a preview of Todt's confession to law enforcement. Todt told authorities he killed Zoe Todt first while she was sleeping. "He rolled over on top of her until she suffocated," DP said.

DP said Todt then killed his two sons in the same method by suffocating and stabbing them. Todt told deputies he was worried about Tyler because he was "fast." "He was afraid that if something didn’t go the way that he wanted Tyler Todt would escape," she said.

Todt told detectives he and his wife, Megan Todt, had an agreement that "everybody needed to die in order to pass over to the other side together because the apocalypse was coming," DP said.

Todt told them Megan stabbed herself twice and when that didn't work, he suffocated her with a pillow, DP said. He also suffocated the family dog, Breezy. We're listening now to a call from Todt's sister asking for a wellness check.

Todt was shaking his head as DP went over his confession with jurors in her opening statement. "I’m wondering if somebody can do a wellness check on my brother," Todt's sister, CC, says on the call recording. "… I can’t seem to get a hold of them."

Law enforcement officers are testifying about their various attempts to contact the Todt family at their Celebration home and condo in the days before January 13, 2020.

MP, a law enforcement officer, said he saw Todt sitting outside on the porch Jan. 13, 2020 before going inside. When they went to contact him, no one answered the door. MP said he opened the door and noticed a "really foul order."

MP said he and other officers asked Todt where his wife was. He said she was sleeping and yelled out "Megan." No one responded, MP said.

When they went up to Todt's bedroom, MP said he saw Todt's two sons on a mattress and his wife in the bed. "The bodies were discolored, black and blue," he said.

On cross-examination, Todt's attorneys ask if MP saw Todt having trouble walking and talking. MP says Todt was mumbling and shaking.

Osceola Sheriff's Deputy CB tells jury he found the bodies of Megan Todt and the couple's two sons in the master bedroom but spent about five minutes trying to find Zoe Todt. He finally found her in a pile of blankets at the foot of the bed where her mother was.

The state's next witness is ES, the forensics supervisor at the Osceola County Sheriff's Office. She was the lead technician at the crime scene in Anthony Todt's case.

ES says she took photos of a room filled with boxes. Inside the boxes were toys, some packaged in Christmas wrapping paper.

Jurors are looking at a picture of a cherry-flavored liquid Benadryl bottle found in the trash can at the Todt home. ES says she processed this item for fingerprints. In openings, prosecutors said Todt's fingerprints were found on bottles and boxes of Benadryl in the home.

Autopsy reports showed Anthony Todt's wife and children had stab wounds and toxic amounts of Benadryl in their bodies.

ES says a knife with a black handle was found in the master bedroom where all the bodies were found. She tells jurors she processed the knife for fingerprints and blood found on the object.

ES says she found a deceased dog wrapped in a blanket on the floor near the bed of the master bedroom. The Todts had a family pet named Breezy.

Jury is going to lunch for the next hour.

ES is back on the witness stand, now going through photos of the garage apartment behind the Todt home at Reserve Place in Celebration.

ES says she found two packages of Benadryl and three packages of a Walgreens version of a Benadryl inside a trash can outside the garage apartment. ASA DP asks if ES found any packages or bottles that still contained medication. "No, I did not," ES says.

ES says she also processed the family's minivan, which was found parked at the condo building near the family's main Celebration home.

The forensics supervisor tells jurors she returned to the Todt home in Celebration two days later. In the master bedroom, she found four cut zip-ties, a red strap on the bedpost and two black BB guns.

ES says Megan Todt and her three children were all found with rosaries in their hands. Jurors are now seeing photos of those rosaries. Todt is nodding his head as the prosecutor goes through the pictures.

Circuit Judge C tells the public outside the presence of jurors that prosecutors are about to show photos of bodies. He asks anyone who feels they will display emotion at the photos to please step outside.

Anthony Todt appears to be wiping tears from his face as prosecutors show photos of the bodies of his two sons and wife. They are clutching rosaries in their hands and covered in blankets.

Witness testifying now is EW, a crime scene manager at Osceola Sheriff's Office and latent print examiner.

EW says she compared latent prints found on a box of Benadryl to Anthony Todt's fingerprints. She identified those prints as coming from Todt's right middle finger and right thumb.

On cross-examination, West says she did not compare the latent prints found to Megan Todt's fingerprints. "I did not compare Megan Todt to any of the exhibits," she said. EW is the last witness for the day, jury is in recess.
 
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I'll help with the tweets for today for you @Countem


April 12th:

Monivette Cordeiro
@monivettec
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Prosecutors say the first witness this morning in the Todt trial will be the medical examiner.

Jennifer Nara, former Orange-Osceola associate medical examiner, is on the witness stand.

She now works in Washington.


Nara says Zoe Todt was more decomposed than her mother and two brothers, likely because she was swaddled in more blankets than the others.

It made her autopsy harder to do, Nara says.

Nara tells jurors the cause of death for Zoe was "homicidal violence of unspecified means" in association with Benadryl toxicity.

She did not appear to have injuries.

"I was not able to determine whether she had been smothered," Nara says, because of the decomposition.

Alek Todt had one stab wound in his abdomen, Nara says.

It was four inches deep but didn't hit any vital organs and there was no hemorrhaging, she says.

Nara says that means Alek was stabbed after he died.

"Is that stab wound a fatal wound?" ASA Danielle Pinnell asks.

"It is not," Nara says.

Nara says it is "unlikely" that the stab wound happened as Alek was dying.

Nara says Tyler Todt also had one stab wound in his abdomen.

Like his brother's stab wound, there was no evidence of blood or hemorrhaging in his abdominal cavity, the medical examiner says.

Nara says Megan Todt had two stab wounds that went at least 8 inches deep into the abdominal cavity.

Unlike her sons, Megan did have hemorrhaging.

"To me, that indicates that she sustained those injuries antemortem — when she was alive," Nara says.

In cross-examination, Nara says she could not determine if Megan Todt's stab wounds were self-inflicted or done by someone else.


Christopher Conklin, a crime lab analyst at FDLE, says he tested the handle of a knife found in the master bedroom with the bodies.

It contained a mixture of DNA from 3 people. The entire Todt family are possible contributors, Conklin says.

A DNA match on the knife for Tyler, Alek and Megan Todt is 700 billion times more likely to occur, Conklin says. For Zoe Todt, that number drops down to 85 million, and for Anthony Todt, it's 5.2 million.

Conklin says he didn't exclude anyone from the DNA mixture.


Adam Stern, a veterinary forensic pathologist and UF associate professor, tells jurors he did the autopsy on Breezy, the Todt's family dog.

Breezy, a small, 10-pound female dog with short curly hair, was "severely decomposed," Stern says.

When he was doing the autopsy on Breezy, "the tissue just started to fall apart," Stern tells jurors.

Breezy did not die of natural causes, he says, but they did not find evidence of smothering or suffocation.


Prosecutors and Todt's defense are arguing over a line that is redacted in his confession where he indicates how long he's been in the hospital.

The judge rules on behalf of the defense, so prosecutors will have to update their transcript and the audio.

It's a delay in the presentation for today, the judge says.

Prosecutors are going to try to fix it while Dr. Bruce Goldberger, a UF professor and chief of the division of forensic medicine, testifies.


Goldberger tells jurors he can't definitely state the Benadryl found in Megan Todt and her children was the toxicological cause of death.

The concentration of Benadryl changes as the body decomposes, he said.

It could have caused fatigue, lethargy, possibly a coma.

The prosecutor asks if the Benadryl concentration in the Todts was high.

"I would say they’re remarkable," Goldberger says. "They're significant."


link: https://twitter.com/monivettec
 
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So I haven't been following this case as closely as some of you, I just find this defendant absolutely repugnant. Has he changed his story again? First he said it was the wife who killed everybody and herself, now he is saying he had some sort of apocalyptic pact with her? Is anyone really buying this??

Ugh justice can't come soon enough!
He is just vile. Can’t believe for a second that he could be found anything but guilty on all counts.
 
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I find it interesting, that he claimed in his interview that Megan knew nothing about the financial woes and criminal charges pending. If they were going to kill themselves, you'd think he would talk to her about it and say, "Yeah, bailing out now is a great idea because otherwise you are going to be evicted and I'm going to jail."
 
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I find it interesting, that he claimed in his interview that Megan knew nothing about the financial woes and criminal charges pending. If they were going to kill themselves, you'd think he would talk to her about it and say, "Yeah, bailing out now is a great idea because otherwise you are going to be evicted and I'm going to jail."

Honestly, I think at least part of his motive was that he couldn’t figure out how to tell his wife about the fraud case. He comes across as very arrogant and I don’t think he would have been able to stand the idea of having his wife think lesser of him or consider him a failure. How someone could think murder was better than insurance fraud, I have no clue but according to the podcast, he seemingly changed in the last 6 months before the murders. It sounded like the stress from the federal case may have caused depression and sent him down some strange mental rabbit hole of dark thoughts. It also mentioned that he had told the federal investigators that he was going to be gone a week for Thanksgiving, then would be back and would talk to them then, so he was likely feeling the pressure of that lie by mid December.

My question is, if we (hypothetically) accept the idea that he and his wife were talking about suicide around Thanksgiving, who bought the Christmas gifts and why?

Moo
 
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Honestly, I think at least part of his motive was that he couldn’t figure out how to tell his wife about the fraud case. He comes across as very arrogant and I don’t think he would have been able to stand the idea of having his wife think lesser of him or consider him a failure. How someone could think murder was better than insurance fraud, I have no clue but according to the podcast, he seemingly changed in the last 6 months before the murders. It sounded like the stress from the federal case may have caused depression and sent him down some strange mental rabbit hole of dark thoughts. It also mentioned that he had told the federal investigators that he was going to be gone a week for Thanksgiving, then would be back and would talk to them then, so he was likely feeling the pressure of that lie by mid December.

My question is, if we (hypothetically) accept the idea that he and his wife were talking about suicide around Thanksgiving, who bought the Christmas gifts and why?

Moo
I totally agree with you on the motive for the murders. The whole thing is just unbelievable.
 
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Honestly, I think at least part of his motive was that he couldn’t figure out how to tell his wife about the fraud case. He comes across as very arrogant and I don’t think he would have been able to stand the idea of having his wife think lesser of him or consider him a failure. How someone could think murder was better than insurance fraud, I have no clue but according to the podcast, he seemingly changed in the last 6 months before the murders. It sounded like the stress from the federal case may have caused depression and sent him down some strange mental rabbit hole of dark thoughts. It also mentioned that he had told the federal investigators that he was going to be gone a week for Thanksgiving, then would be back and would talk to them then, so he was likely feeling the pressure of that lie by mid December.

My question is, if we (hypothetically) accept the idea that he and his wife were talking about suicide around Thanksgiving, who bought the Christmas gifts and why?

Moo

I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but I've followed the case from the start. JMO, but I don't think Megan knew about the eviction or the federal fraud case. I think this guy is a family annihilator who was at the end of his rope financially and he killed his wife and children so they would never know the truth. Weird, though, that he didn't also kill himself as those in this family annihilator category typically also commit suicide. I think he wanted to have the image of being a super successful PT who could afford to have his family live in Disneyworld while he worked and committed fraud out of his office in CT.

I don't believe for a minute that he and his wife talked about suicide. I think she was deliberately kept in the dark about the financial issues and what he was doing in CT. The feds were closing in on him. I do not think the timing of the murders were any coincidence. He had federal agents after him and he had an eviction notice. The party was over.

This case shocks me as much as the Chris Watts case did. So terrible.

All JMO
 
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For the latest updates, please follow reporter Monivette Cordeiro on Twitter at the following link.

https://twitter.com/monivettec

Monday, April 12, 2022 Continued
Note: All names outside of defendant and victims abbreviated by me.


The next witness is the lead detective over the case, CM. He and another investigator interrogated Todt at the hospital three times. The first confession was excluded from the trial after he failed to properly inform Todt of his Miranda rights.

Jurors are about to watch a video of Todt's confession. Prosecutors have given them transcripts to follow along.

Anthony Todt tells detectives he feels very sad and upset. "Is there somewhere else you’d rather be?" the detective asks. "With my family on the other side," Todt says.

Todt says his wife, who was chronically ill, started watching videos about the apocalypse and decided to die. He says they talked to their children about it. "What would you do if mommy and daddy died?" Todt said he asked. "We don’t want to live without you," the kids said.

Todt tells detectives he sat for hours on Zoe's bed trying to bring himself to kill her. "I needed to save her soul. I wanted her to be with us," he said. He says he laid on top of her to keep her down and smothered her with a pillow.

Detective: "How long did she kick and scream?" Todt: "Only for a couple minutes." He said he held the pillow over her face for 10-15 minutes.

Todt on the video says his wife was outside as he killed Zoe and she held Alek's feet as he put his hand over the boy's nose and mouth. In court, Todt is shaking his head at the video.

Todt says he and his wife consoled each other after the death of the first two kids. "We have to finish this," Megan Todt said, claimed her husband. "There’s one more left."

Todt said they were worried about killing Tyler because he was stronger and quicker than the other children. "We wouldn’t be able to catch him and we wouldn’t be able to all go together," he says.

The detective asks what Megan Todt was doing while he killed Tyler. "She’s doing meditations." It's a lot to go through as a parent, the detective says. "We had salvation in mind," Todt says. "… We love our kids."

Todt says he and his wife decided Breezy would be killed next. He said he wrapped her in blankets and held her snout and nose closed. "She went peacefully," he says.

Todt says his wife had a glass of wine then stabbed herself. They laid together 45 minutes waiting for her to die, but it didn't happen, he says. Todt claims she decided to drink bottles of Benadryl to quicken the process.

Todt says his wife got frustrated after she didn't die. "This is too long," she said, Todt claimed. "This is ridiculous." Todt says she asked him to kill her with a pillow. "If you love me, you can do this," Todt claimed she said. "I want to be with my babies."

Todt says he waited a day or so after his family died and went to purchase more Benadryl to kill himself. "I started the Benadryl. I tried hanging myself." He also says he tried to use a pellet gun to kill himself by shooting his liver and heart. "It hurt," he says.

Todt says he was being evasive with his family, who were trying to reach him. He says he had to "keep people away so I could finish myself." "I still have to get to them," he says.

Todt is now describing how he carried each of the children's bodies to the master bedroom where Megan was and put rosaries in their hands. "I did not want to drag him," Todt says regarding how he moved Alek. "He’s my son. ... The ultimate respect to them.”

In the video, Todt is crying during his confession and asks detectives for a tissue. "I think I said it. I have nothing to hide," Todt says.

Detective: "How come you didn’t graduate to a real gun?" This is regarding Todt's attempts to kill himself with a pellet gun. "There was a whole three-day waitlist," he says. "... Sometimes when I took the Benadryl, I seriously went to sleep for two days."

Detective: "Did the kids get to open Christmas presents?" Todt: "They were not alive for Christmas." Todt claims he was trying to kill himself during the weeks he lived with the bodies.

Todt says he doesn't remember telling law enforcement that Megan Todt was sleeping and that his kids were at a sleepover. In court, Todt has been shaking his head disagreeing when describing how he killed the kids but nodding when describing how he cared for the bodies.

Detectives tell Todt on the video that they found arsenic in his home. He seems surprised, says he didn't know about it. "I would have used that," Todt says.

The detective says he doesn't understand how Todt came up with a plan to kill the children but delayed killing himself. "Were the children ... that understanding of this pact?" he asks. "They can only understand to a certain point because they were children," Todt says.

Detectives ask how Todt's wife began watching these videos. He said she was in a "ridiculous amount of pain" and suffered miscarriages, most recently in September 2019.

Detectives ask if Megan Todt knew about the trouble going on with their finances. Prosecutors can't bring up the federal investigation into Todt's alleged healthcare fraud. "This has nothing to do with the finances," Todt says.

Detectives on the video relay a message from Todt's family: "They love you. They don't understand anything that took place. ... Any message?" "Just tell them that I love them but this [is a] decision our family made," he says.

"Are you sure you stabbed [the boys] prior to them being deceased?" CM asks. "Yes. 100% sure. Without a doubt," Todt says. "If a doctor tells me wounds done postmortem, what would you say to that?" "Absolutely incorrect," Todt says. "Absolutely incorrect."

Todt says on the video he takes "full responsibility." "If I could commit suicide right now, I would," he says. "... That’s why I’m not hiding behind lawyers." Todt has since blamed his wife for the killings.

The detectives ask if Todt is under the influence of something given to him while he was committed at the hospital. He says no. "I’m of sound mind," Todt says. "I did it." Defense attorneys argued otherwise when they were trying to get the confession tossed.

Judge Carsten sends the jury home to return tomorrow at 9 a.m. Prosecutors and defense are still arguing about a different matter.

Recap of today’s trial activity:
Jury sees Anthony Todt’s confession in family’s killings: ‘I needed to save her soul’
 
  • #393
Wednesday, April 13th:
*Trial continues (Day 3) (@ 9am ET) – FL – Megan Denise Gula Todt (42), Aleksander (13), Tyler (11), Zoe (4) & dog Brezzy (last heard from Jan. 6, 2020, Celebration; found Jan. 13, 2020; LE believe they have been dead since Dec. 29, 2019) - *Anthony John Todt (44/now 46) arrested (1/15/20), charged (1/16/20), indicted (2/25/20) & arraigned (2/28/20) with 4 counts of premeditated murder & 1 count of animal cruelty. Charges changed (1/29/20) & arraigned (2/28/20) with 4 counts of 2nd degree murder & animal cruelty charge dismissed. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek DP & has changed mind on 1/4/21 will not seek DP.
Trial began with jury selection on 4/4/22 & ended 4/6/22. Trial began on 4/11/22. (2 week trial); 12 jurors & 2 alternates (8 women & 6 men).
Assistant State Attorney Danielle Pinelle, Public Defender Robert Wesley & defense attorney Alicia Smith.

Confession & court info from 1/15/20 thru 3/31/22 & Jury Selection Day 1-3 (4/4 to 4/6/22) & 4/8/22 & Trial Day 1 (4/11/22) reference post #381 here:
Found Deceased - FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST* #2

4/11/22 Monday, Trial Day 1: Additional State witness: Erin West, a crime scene manager at Osceola Sheriff's Office & latent print examiner.
4/12/22 Tuesday, Trial Day 2: State witnesses: Jennifer Nara, former Orange-Osceola associate medical examiner. Christopher Conklin, a crime lab analyst at FDLE, says he tested the handle of a knife found in the master bedroom with the bodies. It contained a mixture of DNA from 3 people. The entire Todt family are possible contributors, Conklin says.
Adam Stern, a veterinary forensic pathologist and UF associate professor, tells jurors he did the autopsy on Breezy, the Todt's family dog. Dr. Bruce Goldberger, a UF professor & chief of the division of forensic medicine.
for more info see post #385 here:
Found Deceased - FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST* #2
Cole Miller, lead detective. Interrogated Todt at the hospital 3 times. Jurors watched the confession by Todt.
for more info see post #392 here:
Found Deceased - FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST* #2
Trial continues on 4/13/22.
 
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Honestly, I think at least part of his motive was that he couldn’t figure out how to tell his wife about the fraud case. He comes across as very arrogant and I don’t think he would have been able to stand the idea of having his wife think lesser of him or consider him a failure. How someone could think murder was better than insurance fraud, I have no clue but according to the podcast, he seemingly changed in the last 6 months before the murders. It sounded like the stress from the federal case may have caused depression and sent him down some strange mental rabbit hole of dark thoughts. It also mentioned that he had told the federal investigators that he was going to be gone a week for Thanksgiving, then would be back and would talk to them then, so he was likely feeling the pressure of that lie by mid December.

My question is, if we (hypothetically) accept the idea that he and his wife were talking about suicide around Thanksgiving, who bought the Christmas gifts and why?

Moo

Shame due to some secret like that is one of the main reasons narcissistic family annihilators do what they do. Funny how they find the courage to harm their families but seem to falter too often when it comes to ending their own lives.
 
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For the latest updates, please follow reporter Monivette Cordeiro on Twitter at the following link.

https://twitter.com/monivettec

Monday, April 12, 2022 Continued
Note: All names outside of defendant and victims abbreviated by me.




Recap of today’s trial activity:
Jury sees Anthony Todt’s confession in family’s killings: ‘I needed to save her soul’

Something to keep in mind if you are reading about the police interview rather than listening to it, is the complete lack of emotion you hear as he’s going through the story with investigators. For most of it, it sounds like he could be reading a grocery list; then this happed… then that happened.
Then at a certain point, it’s like he realizes he should be showing emotions and he focuses on that, rather than talking. You see him either tearing up or faking so. The whole interview was just bizarre.
Moo
 
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NM, I see you just asked for today
 
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Arguing for his acquittal and it was denied.
 
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Todt going on the stand
 

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