FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 3

[truthsleuth]

I will bet DS was stationed at Camp Lejeune, NC.

Any way to verify that?

 

[Coldpizza]

Michelle's mother was just on live www.myfoxtampabay.com

She has changed her stance on the carjacking theory. She believes that it is a kidnapping with criminal intent. She didn't know about the raid until after the fact. When asked if LE found anything there, her response was Michelle wasn't there. I felt she was avoiding the evidence aspect of the question.
Again, she is so appreciative to be able to continue keep Michelle in the media.
Very sad, I'll post a link when it comes up. I'll be in and out so everyone else keep tabs too.

 

[Gia]

They just had a brief clip about the raid on the Today Show. No new info other than what has already been discussed. But at least they're still keeping the case out there.

 

[Kamille]

Any way to verify that?

A people search on DS Sr shows that he lived at Camp Lejeune at some point so I suppose it's possible that either the records got confused and it was actually DS Jr or his Dad was also a marine and was stationed there at some point in his military career.

I also noticed that the article regarding the dishonorable discharge mentioned that DS Jr had a string of military convictions for drug possession and domestic battery. I would assume there is no access to military conviction records? So there could be more information on his criminal past during the time he was in the marines that we do not have access to?

MOO

ETA: Link to people search http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...=w&city=&state=FL&age=64&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=#

 

[Patty G]

Did you have to pay a fee to review the info on People Finders?

 

[Kamille]

DS Jr photobucket...

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n293/jediscout2871/

 

[~n/t~]

DS Jr photobucket...

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n293/jediscout2871/

OK....the Star Wars costumes had me :floorlaugh:

I guess people really get into that kind of stuff, eh?

 

[Gia]

A people search on DS Sr shows that he lived at Camp Lejeune at some point so I suppose it's possible that either the records got confused and it was actually DS Jr or his Dad was also a marine and was stationed there at some point in his military career.

I also noticed that the article regarding the dishonorable discharge mentioned that DS Jr had a string of military convictions for drug possession and domestic battery. I would assume there is no access to military conviction records? So there could be more information on his criminal past during the time he was in the marines that we do not have access to?
MOO

ETA: Link to people search http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...=w&city=&state=FL&age=64&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=#

BBM

I am former military, and was even a character witness in a court martial once. But since I've never been on the receiving end of one myself, I don't know all the specifics. I did find some information on this site though:

http://dpclo.defense.gov/privacy/SORNS/component/army/A0027-10b_DAJA.html

It says:

Courts-martial records reflect criminal proceedings ordinarily open to the public; therefore, they are normally releasable to the public pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act.

Information from these records may be disclosed to the Department of Justice, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies for determination of rights and entitlements of the individuals concerned and for use in the enforcement of criminal or civil law.

And this is the site (also referenced in above link) where you can request records:

http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/public/index.html

 

[Kamille]

Did you have to pay a fee to review the info on People Finders?

No...the link should work for you Patty G

 

[Kamille]

OK....the Star Wars costumes had me :floorlaugh:

I guess people really get into that kind of stuff, eh?

Yes I suppose they do :floorlaugh:

He's quite a prolific E-Bay purchaser too

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...d=jediscout2871&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

Probably a lot of Star Wars items

He seems to sell Disney Park Hopper passes on there also

 

[Gardenlady]

OK....the Star Wars costumes had me :floorlaugh:

I guess people really get into that kind of stuff, eh?

It was the Roman legion-type costumes that had me :floorlaugh: with the.... Metallic codpieces or whatever they were? hoh: :laugh:

 

[SnoopyDoobyDoo]

OK....the Star Wars costumes had me :floorlaugh:

I guess people really get into that kind of stuff, eh?

Yep. Most of them have a blast doing it (there are the select few who treat it like a full time job instead of a fun hobby, and that's pushing the weird envelope a little) as well, so good on them. I definitely still laugh when grown men are discussing the best material to make an Ironman costume. :floorlaugh:

 

[Cerebellum]

One thing that struck me while looking through the photobucket: the pic of DS, MP & twins. He seemed rather lanky, scrawny, thin and then you see the rest of the pics where he has bulked up quite substantially. Anyone have a recent pic of him to see what he looks like presently? Is there any news footage of him? I know someone that used to use steroids and it was really amazing to watch the fluctuations in bulk when he was off or on them. You could always tell if he was applying for jobs because he would shrink away into nothing. I will also say the personality & mood changes were very alarming. Crazy behavior. I am not saying DS is or was using steroids, just a speculation b/c of his significant changes in appearance.

 

[Patty G]

November 28, 2011
Today Show

http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/108373822

 

[~n/t~]

One thing that struck me while looking through the photobucket: the pic of DS, MP & twins. He seemed rather lanky, scrawny, thin and then you see the rest of the pics where he has bulked up quite substantially. Anyone have a recent pic of him to see what he looks like presently? Is there any news footage of him? I know someone that used to use steroids and it was really amazing to watch the fluctuations in bulk when he was off or on them. You could always tell if he was applying for jobs because he would shrink away into nothing. I will also say the personality & mood changes were very alarming. Crazy behavior. I am not saying DS is or was using steroids, just a speculation b/c of his significant changes in appearance.

I have no idea if he was/is taking steroids but there are a lot of products on the market (Whey protein powders) that I know many guys who body build/workout or need weight gain use.

He looked thin in the People's Court episode but then again, we can't really tell because he was fully clothed.

Also, having twins can be a stressful time especially for first time parents.

The twins are adorable.

 

[CharlestonGal]

A people search on DS Sr shows that he lived at Camp Lejeune at some point so I suppose it's possible that either the records got confused and it was actually DS Jr or his Dad was also a marine and was stationed there at some point in his military career.

I also noticed that the article regarding the dishonorable discharge mentioned that DS Jr had a string of military convictions for drug possession and domestic battery. I would assume there is no access to military conviction records? So there could be more information on his criminal past during the time he was in the marines that we do not have access to?

MOO

ETA: Link to people search http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...=w&city=&state=FL&age=64&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=#

BBM. Yes and no. You will not find online records of military courts-martials and NJP proceedings and/or convictions. I'm retired military and worked in substance abuse/mental health/domestic violence/child abuse services and was a part of many Article 15 and courts-martial proceedings. You can get access to those records by filing a FOIA request through the base legal office. They may or may not give them to you depending on why you want them and if they do give them to you they will likely be heavily redacted to exclude the names of victims, witnesses and experts involved in the case.

Someone asked earlier about the overlap or lack of overlap in military and civilian arrests and convictions. Typically if a crime occurs on the base itself, the military will handle it. If a crime occurs off the installation, the civilians take over. Not always, but that's usually what happens. So, if you assault your wife/husband on the base and the perpetrator is active duty, the case will be handed over to the squadron commander. She/he will then work with the base legal office to decide what charges, if any, to bring. The civilian authorities will not be notified that the service member was arrested for domestic violence. The case will be entered into the NCIC and those with access to NCIC can view it. I no longer have access since I retired.

So yes, you can have a string of arrests for DV or drug abuse in the military, but the average citizen does not have access to that info.

Child abuse is different. If child abuse was committed on base we HAD to report it to CPS and a caseworker was assigned. The person would typically be turned over to the civilian authorities for prosecution (no real reason why; I think the military just didn't like dealing with it).

Also, if a person is arrested off base for DV or DUI or drug possession and is charged for those crimes in civilian court, the military cannot courts-martial the person in addition. That's double jeopardy. What they do instead is use an Article 15 (Non-judicial punishment) instead for "conduct unbecoming" or some such, and punish you that way. Get enough of those and the military will kick you out.

If DS was arrested/convicted of DV or drugs by the military, those records will be found in NCIC or as I said before, petitioning the base legal office through a FOIA request.

 

[Patty G]

November 28, 2011
Good Morning America

http://www.myspace.com/my/videos#!/...arker-good-morning-america-11-28-11/108373906

 

[TexasCharm]

Thank you, Patty. (And I love Mrs. Beasley!)

The more I hear about all this, the worse it sounds .. ugh. I've not followed closely, but I think I need to go back and read EVERYTHING ..

Hoping her family gets answers .. not holding out much hope she is still alive...

~dw

 

[truthsleuth]

BBM. Yes and no. You will not find online records of military courts-martials and NJP proceedings and/or convictions. I'm retired military and worked in substance abuse/mental health/domestic violence/child abuse services and was a part of many Article 15 and courts-martial proceedings. You can get access to those records by filing a FOIA request through the base legal office. They may or may not give them to you depending on why you want them and if they do give them to you they will likely be heavily redacted to exclude the names of victims, witnesses and experts involved in the case.

Someone asked earlier about the overlap or lack of overlap in military and civilian arrests and convictions. Typically if a crime occurs on the base itself, the military will handle it. If a crime occurs off the installation, the civilians take over. Not always, but that's usually what happens. So, if you assault your wife/husband on the base and the perpetrator is active duty, the case will be handed over to the squadron commander. She/he will then work with the base legal office to decide what charges, if any, to bring. The civilian authorities will not be notified that the service member was arrested for domestic violence. The case will be entered into the NCIC and those with access to NCIC can view it. I no longer have access since I retired.

So yes, you can have a string of arrests for DV or drug abuse in the military, but the average citizen does not have access to that info.

Child abuse is different. If child abuse was committed on base we HAD to report it to CPS and a caseworker was assigned. The person would typically be turned over to the civilian authorities for prosecution (no real reason why; I think the military just didn't like dealing with it).

Also, if a person is arrested off base for DV or DUI or drug possession and is charged for those crimes in civilian court, the military cannot courts-martial the person in addition. That's double jeopardy. What they do instead is use an Article 15 (Non-judicial punishment) instead for "conduct unbecoming" or some such, and punish you that way. Get enough of those and the military will kick you out.

If DS was arrested/convicted of DV or drugs by the military, those records will be found in NCIC or as I said before, petitioning the base legal office through a FOIA request.

I have a question for you. Is the military swift in court-martialing someone, or does a case linger on for several years? For example, in a domestic battery case, can one expect to be court-martialed immediately, would it take months, or would it take years? Any idea?

TIA for your response.

 

[Cerebellum]

I may have been overtired last night. Did I read somewhere here that the Hummer had a flat tire when found? I don't recall seeing that in the media.