FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 3

[Cblewife]

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx

For DWS II From that link---

1990- Burglary
1991- Criminal Trespass
1992(March)- Controlled Substance Offense
1992(June)- Aggravated Battery
1996- Battery
1999- File for Divorce
2002- Repeated violence and order of protection issued
2005- Sued by Lake Tyler Condo Assoc.
2005- Some kind of lawsuit for money filed by DS against person from repeat violence above
2008- Divorce (not sure this one is him)
2009- Paternity Suit file by DS against MP
2009- Domestic Violence with Children present filed against DS by MP
A number of traffic violations over the years for different things.
List does not include any violations from when he was in the Marines, does anyone know how to look up that info? If the press found it surely we can too.

If I missed something above, please add to the list.

I think in the 2005 cases above he is actually the Plaintiff. That's where I saw Allied Roofing. It was listed as Plaintiff - SMITH, DALE , Also known as ALLIED ROOFING CONTRACTORS LLC.

 

[girlinblue]

Okay, regarding the second wife's death. I am in no way saying this can be fact. I realize it falls under the category of rumor, and if it has to be deleted or snipped, please do so. I am not asking to further the thing, only to clarify for myself and dispel what was said in the chat regarding a wife's death and the statements made about it. I think we are pretty much agreeing that that was a tip off to verifiable information, so I hope this is okay to reference and ask about.

First, why are we saying that both wives are deceased? Is there a link to some information stating that? We don't have her name so how did this come about? I see a reference to a FB posting but that was by an sister of second wife.

I'm not comfortable referencing the chat comment for fear of ticking off the mods, but I feel it could possibly be useful. The details of the post are ambiguous to me, I should say that right away. I do remember that a poster in the chat claiming to be a sister or sister in law of the wife said something about a drug overdose. Has this chat post been linked to the FB posting by a sister-in-law, verifying it was the same person? I only ask because A) it would legitimize the statement and bring in extra info compounding the BFT COD. B) I'm wondering if, in fact it is a real poster and not just someone being a jerk, it could have been a member of the first wife's family if she is verified deceased as well? So basically, to summarize that, lol, could this have been verified info, if it's verified that it came from the same person.

If there is CONCRETE evidence about first wife, can someone list official or verified links for me? I've seen conflicting posts and am not keeping up very well tonight.

I guess I'm asking a very awkward way if we can have permission to fact check that info before automatically saying it's a rumor from a troll, and could we be allowed to reference it if we are just fact checking, while considering it just a rumor we're trying to verify or dismiss?

I think it would be a good idea to check the info against the first wife if we get her name or access to death certificate.

Sorry if this is so muddled and full of run on sentences. My sleep specialist perscribed me Ambien to help out my insomnia. I never think it's going to kick in while I'm still on the internet.

 

[truthsleuth]

No... it was me that brought that quote over and I got my hand smacked. I was following the chat and actually engaging with the reporter and thought it was interesting. I deleted the post because even though I said it was not known fact, I felt it caused a bit of friction, plus I didn't want to be responsible for starting idle gossip about anyone.

I know the name of the wife who divorced him in 2000. So am I understanding there is another prior to this one and the one he married after he was divorced passed away? So 3 wives??

BBM

Can you share?

 

[Patty G]

I mentioned the neighbor because someone posted about having to be *clean*, not true, you just have to be able to lawyer-up real well in order not to be charged with anything, that's his MO.

Anyone can carry a concealed weapon as long as they don't get caught. The world is full of people with CW without a permit! :crazy:

 

[Dee in MD]

I mentioned the neighbor because someone posted about having to be *clean*, not true, you just have to be able to lawyer-up real well in order not to be charged with anything, that's his MO.

BTW, here you can get a CWP for being a victim of a crime, in my case robbery. I told the LE that they p'd me off by not doing their job, now they want to give me a gun to to it myself, lol

 

[Angelonline]

delete delete delete

 

[Ironhorse]

nevermind DH just told me CWP = concealed weapons permit

duh

Technically speaking Florida doesn't have a CWP it's officially known as a CCF... But in layman's terms be it called a CCW, CWP or whatever you get the idea. In order to be approved you have to meet some stiff criteria, and be over the age of 21. They don't just hand these out to just anyone and any domestic charge would eliminate any chance of being approved.

 

[SuziQ]

Okay, regarding the second wife's death. I am in no way saying this can be fact. I realize it falls under the category of rumor, and if it has to be deleted or snipped, please do so. I am not asking to further the thing, only to clarify for myself and dispel what was said in the chat regarding a wife's death and the statements made about it. I think we are pretty much agreeing that that was a tip off to verifiable information, so I hope this is okay to reference and ask about.

First, why are we saying that both wives are deceased? Is there a link to some information stating that? We don't have her name so how did this come about? I see a reference to a FB posting but that was by an sister of second wife.

I'm not comfortable referencing the chat comment for fear of ticking off the mods, but I feel it could possibly be useful. The details of the post are ambiguous to me, I should say that right away. I do remember that a poster in the chat claiming to be a sister or sister in law of the wife said something about a drug overdose. Has this chat post been linked to the FB posting by a sister-in-law, verifying it was the same person? I only ask because A) it would legitimize the statement and bring in extra info compounding the BFT COD. B) I'm wondering if, in fact it is a real poster and not just someone being a jerk, it could have been a member of the first wife's family if she is verified deceased as well? So basically, to summarize that, lol, could this have been verified info, if it's verified that it came from the same person.

If there is CONCRETE evidence about first wife, can someone list official or verified links for me? I've seen conflicting posts and am not keeping up very well tonight.

I guess I'm asking a very awkward way if we can have permission to fact check that info before automatically saying it's a rumor from a troll, and could we be allowed to reference it if we are just fact checking, while considering it just a rumor we're trying to verify or dismiss?

I think it would be a good idea to check the info against the first wife if we get her name or access to death certificate.

Sorry if this is so muddled and full of run on sentences. My sleep specialist perscribed me Ambien to help out my insomnia. I never think it's going to kick in while I'm still on the internet.

Actually much has been linked and backed up tonight with legit sources. It appears at this time that some of it is not allowed for posting at the moment. maybe a mod can step in a explain so we can avoid confusion.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I am sorry for any confusion I may have caused due to stating another wife had passed.. I have 2 sources but they are not MSM.. When I made the post I assumed I'd be able to find something in MSM to link to.. That has proven to not be the case thus far.. So I have deleted my post and again im sincerely apologetic for posting that without a link via mSM.. I hate it when others post "bad info"(nothing to verify it with) and I hate it more that i did so.. Please accept my apology.. :blushing:

 

[Cblewife]

BBM

Can you share?

AP divorced Dale Smith on January 27, 2000. I do not know their marriage date.

The only other marriage I am aware of is to SC, who passed away.

 

[BrownRice]

Ok, looking at DS' marriages, maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look so crazy. 2 marriages, 1 ending in divorce and 1 in death. It's not like he has been married 5x and divorced 5x. Only 1 divorce. Of course if he was responsible for the death of 2nd wife, that would be something, but he wasn't arrested or convicted (I assume).

Of course his history of other things doesn't look too great, but to me his marriage history isn't that offensive. ???

 

[Patty G]

Heck, Elizabeth Taylor was married 8 times. :crazy:

 

[bessie]

Hey everyone. It is okay to post DS Jr's criminal/court records as long as you provide a link and any other names are redacted. I'll restore any posts that should not have been removed.

I'm sorry if we've confused you guys. We just need a little time to check some things out and will update you as needed.

Thanks to all of you for your patience. :blowkiss:

 

[truthsleuth]

Ok, looking at DS' marriages, maybe it's just me, but it doesn't look so crazy. 2 marriages, 1 ending in divorce and 1 in death. It's not like he has been married 5x and divorced 5x. Only 1 divorce. Of course if he was responsible for the death of 2nd wife, that would be something, but he wasn't arrested or convicted (I assume).

Of course his history of other things doesn't look too great, but to me his marriage history isn't that offensive. ???

I guess it's true that two marriages, lasting over a span of 3 years in the first marriage and one year in the second isn't totally drastic. It's the fact that the second wife died of a brain injury that is setting off alarms for many.

An aggravated battery charge took place in 1992 and he was sentenced to 6 mos. and 2 yrs probation. Another battery charge took place in 1997 (same year he married his first wife, so I don't know if this is related or not), he pleaded guilty, and he was sentenced to 10 days and given credit for time served (10 days). Again, I don't know who he battered, but it would be terribly interesting if it was wife no. 1.

So two marriages, not a big deal these days. But add that fact to all the other stuff, including a missing ex-, well, you fill in the blanks.

 

[Cerebellum]

Technically speaking Florida doesn't have a CWP it's officially known as a CCF... But in layman's terms be it called a CCW, CWP or whatever you get the idea. In order to be approved you have to meet some stiff criteria, and be over the age of 21. They don't just hand these out to just anyone and any domestic charge would eliminate any chance of being approved.

It's a "Concealed Weapon or Firearm License", at least that's what mine says across the top. You cannot be a felon, or have any charges of violence or illegal drugs, have any injunctions for domestic violence (active) or be dishonorably discharged from the armed forces. Guess that rules our pal DS out for having one. But, what about pops?

 

[Reality Orlando]

I have to strongly disagree with your statement that SWAT is not needed to serve a warrant. Serving high-risk warrants is a big part of what SWAT teams do.

Like cerebellum, I am also married to a cop who has served as a SWAT officer. He was called out to serve warrants on quite a few occasions. They don't send SWAT without cause such as threats, a history of violence against officers, stockpiled weapons or explosives, or if innocent people such a
So would So children could be in danger.

Another reason that I know they don't send SWAT unless it is necessary is because it is expensive to pay so many officers. My hubby is now the chief, and he spends way more time on budgetary issues than he would like to. Cities are pinching pennies and all city leaders are under pressure to have a very good reason for every dollar spent! :twocents: MOO

So, can you ask if it would be protocol to send swat just because the person had a concealed weapons license?

 

[Ironhorse]

And no one knows how Wife #2 got the brain injury...

(I had a friend who died of a brain injury but it was a result of a car accident. However if you just read his obituary all that was said was he died from a brain injury, it made no mention of the car accident...)

So, I'm reluctant to make a determination on Wife #2 dying as a result of a brain injury. Until we have clarification on what caused her injury, it's a little too presumptuous to assume DS had anything to do with it...

 

[Kamille]

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx

For DWS II From that link---

1990- Burglary
1991- Criminal Trespass
1992(March)- Controlled Substance Offense
1992(June)- Aggravated Battery
1996- Battery
1999- File for Divorce
2002- Repeated violence and order of protection issued
2005- Sued by Lake Tyler Condo Assoc.
2005- Some kind of lawsuit for money filed by DS against person from repeat violence above
2008- Divorce (not sure this one is him)
2009- Paternity Suit file by DS against MP
2009- Domestic Violence with Children present filed against DS by MP
A number of traffic violations over the years for different things.
List does not include any violations from when he was in the Marines, does anyone know how to look up that info? If the press found it surely we can too.

If I missed something above, please add to the list.

Since he was also remarried in 2000 until 2001, at what point in there was he in the military and would there be separate records for whatever occured there that got him dishonourably discharged? Since the article mentioned the domestic battery, was he in the military during his first and second marriages? :waitasec:

 

[Kamille]

And no one knows how Wife #2 got the brain injury...

(I had a friend who died of a brain injury but it was a result of a car accident. However if you just read his obituary all that was said was he died from a brain injury, it made no mention of the car accident...)

So, I'm reluctant to make a determination on Wife #2 dying as a result of a brain injury. Until we have clarification on what caused her injury, it's a little too presumptuous to assume DS had anything to do with it...

Well what might have appeared to be an accident at the time would likely be getting re-looked at considering the current situation IMO.

 

[Angelonline]

I think in the 2005 cases above he is actually the Plaintiff. That's where I saw Allied Roofing. It was listed as Plaintiff - SMITH, DALE , Also known as ALLIED ROOFING CONTRACTORS LLC.

No the 2005 one I referred to is a female and there is also a petition to remove Order of Protection. There is another one that is Allied Roofing, since I wasnt sure if ARC was owned by DS Jr or DS Sr I did not post those.