FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - # 3

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Yes, they do time in a military prison, or in the military disciplinary barracks at Ft. Leavenworth, KS. When they are done doing their time they are officially discharged from military service (if a discharge was part of the sentence). If a discharge was not part of their sentence, they are returned to duty and generally separated with an adminstrative discharge, depending on the offense.

If the victim is a spouse or a child, they will continue to receive military pay/benefits for a period of time so they are not left suddenly destitute. A year or two, I think.

just wanted to add on (DH is a LTC and we were also stationed at Leavenworth) that the USDB at leavenworth is for enlisted personnel with a sentence greater than five years, commissioned officers, and any sentences related to national defense. There are other brigs for enlisted personnel with a sentence less than five years.

While we were stationed there (we pcs'd from there a year and a half ago) they were adding on to the USDB.

And also, I agree with you that courts martial are swift!
 
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Are we sure he was courts-martialed for battery? If it was indeed battery, I doubt it was of the domestic kind, and if it was, it had to have been vicious. Ditto if it was battery on someone else. Military guys fight - a lot. They don't go to trial for it though except in some outrageous case. Or if he beat up a commanding officer or something. You can beat your wife and get away with it, but battering a superior will get you in a heap of trouble.

The articles regarding his military record stated...


Dale received a dishonorable discharge from the Marines in 2003 following a string of court’s martials including military convictions for drug possession and domestic battery.


http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...s-violent-history-told-her-your-day-is-coming

So I'm assuming that he spent some time in a military prison before being released and discharged in 2003. Which leads me to believe that perhaps the domestic charge was against the 2nd wife. But it was the combination of the drug charges and the domestic that may have landed him in prison in the first place? Would someone serve up to 3 years in a military prison for drug possession and battery charges?

TIA for your help with these questions.
 
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Given everything else it looks bad, but I actually can't think of a guy in my close acquaintance that wouldn't make this joke. And a fair number of women would make a similar reference. Especially if they were already discussing Star Wars for some reason. I highly doubt a three year old Star Wars allusion is indicative of any great "plan" on DS's part. Heck, find my online persona is the last year and you'll find me threatening to sell my kids on eBay, smack my husband with my new frying pan, and eat the face of all children who annoy me. All made sense within context (said to people who know me, my situation, my sense of humour, and who share a background to get these jokes), but sound absolutely awful in a vacuum.


Edit- Just to explain for anybody not familiar with Star Wars. DS's outlined plan is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader's journey in the prequel trilogy, or at least the last film. His wife is pregnant with twins (Luke and Leia, who are two of the main characters in the original series), Anakin turns to the dark side and becomes Darth Vader, his wife dies in childbirth for no damn reason except she loses the will to live. Literally. It's ridiculous, and the source of much joking amongst fans.

Thanks so much for clearing that up. Although i saw the first star wars when it came out long ago, I haven't kept up with any of it. So his comment makes sense in that context and doesn't seem to have an evil intent but is simply a humorous star wars reference.

I'm sure I have said that that would also sound as bad if they were taken out of context.
 
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Here is a link to the website of his Star Wars Obsession? (don't know what else to call it, the man is 40). He is also known as Cowboy besides the TB2871. I also have found a list of some of his military arrests, but need to talk to a mod before I post.
TIA
http://www.501st.com/members/displaymember.php?userID=3556&costumeID=6

While I understand that this Star Wars hobby can be quite the obsession, it disturbs me if DS actually updated that profile on Nov 22, after Michelle's disappearance. I would think he would be able to put that obsession aside for the moment, especially since he's supposed to be caring for his children.

But then again, after watching that video of Michelle's mother this morning who stated that no member of the Smith family has been in contact with her or appears to be helping with the search, perhaps he has a lot of time on his hands to go online.

I've yet to see anything about what he actually does for a living. He owns his own condo, was available on a Thursday afternoon for Michelle to drop off the kids and seems to spend an incredible amount of money on this Star Wars hobby. :waitasec:

MOO
 
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More then likely Dale is making his websites private as he doesn't want all his stuff posted all over the Internet and taken out of context. IMO.

He also removed where he works, etc., on his Facebook page.
 
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I wonder if Michelle had life insurance. If so, wouldn't she make her kids the beneficiaries? And if the kids were minors, who would get the money or control of the money?

As others have pointed out before, it would be interesting to see if his second wife had life insurance. That would have given him enough $$ to purchase a condo, I would think.
 
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I wonder if Michelle had life insurance. If so, wouldn't she make her kids the beneficiaries? And if the kids were minors, who would get the money or control of the money?

As others have pointed out before, it would be interesting to see if his second wife had life insurance. That would have given him enough $$ to purchase a condo, I would think.

BBM

There is a mtg for almost 200,000 in 2008.

http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/viewDoc.jsp?node=DOCC29821500
 
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I am trying to find the address of Dale Jr's condo-I have it here somewhere, although I think that is a red herring. Not sure he was actually living there yet.

The condo was purchased in 2008.
 
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The condo was purchased in 2008.

Did Michelle and DS ever live together, or were they planning on living together once they found out she was pregnant with the twins?
 
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Did Michelle and DS ever live together, or were they planning on living together once they found out she was pregnant with the twins?

Going back to People's Court, it appears at one point they lived together, however, he moved her out and either brought her things to her mother's house or something like that.

It almost sounded like there were a few moves back and forth.

People's Court
http://www.youtube.com/ladyTaz1229
 
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It is my understanding that the condo was purchased for he and Michelle and the kids. It is also my understanding that due to the mortgage being in his name there were several instances where she and the children were put out in the middle of the night. All of this is rumor that I have heard and should be considered as rumor. I haven't been on here much although I read alot. I'm not real clear on what I can legally post or not legally post in regards to "talk around the town" kind of stuff. Can someone direct me?
Thanks
 
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The articles regarding his military record stated...


Dale received a dishonorable discharge from the Marines in 2003 following a string of court’s martials including military convictions for drug possession and domestic battery.


http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...s-violent-history-told-her-your-day-is-coming

So I'm assuming that he spent some time in a military prison before being released and discharged in 2003. Which leads me to believe that perhaps the domestic charge was against the 2nd wife. But it was the combination of the drug charges and the domestic that may have landed him in prison in the first place? Would someone serve up to 3 years in a military prison for drug possession and battery charges?

TIA for your help with these questions.

BBM. Sure, but you generally have to really irritate military authorities for them to go that far. I know this sounds terrible, but simple drug possession and simple battery are not going to get the military in enough of a twist to courts-martial you over it - unless it's an extreme case or the person has a pattern of behavior that finally causes the CO to really put the smack-down on them.

In a simple drug possession (not drug dealing; that's different) or a simple battery case, the CO will offer the servicemember an "Article 15", which is a non-judicial punishment. You do not go to court; you agree to let the CO punish you. The CO has a range of options to choose from depending on his/her rank and the servicemembers rank. The CO cannot give you a Bad Conduct or Dishonorable Discharge. He/she can demote you, fine you, restrict you to base, etc. Little stuff.

If the servicemember refuses to accept an Article 15, the CO can ask for a courts-martial and you then go to an actual trial. The trial is conducted by a military judge and he/she can send you to jail, give you a bad conduct or dishonorable discharge, demote you, fine you, etc. The military does have the death penalty, but I don't think they've actually killed anyone in decades.

DS may not have done anything particularly terrible; he may have simply refused an Article 15 and took his chances at courts-martial. Some people do. Even over minor stuff. Then they wind up having the proverbial book thrown at them. But the military doesn't generally jump right to courts-martial unless you did something pretty bad or have a pattern of doing stuff moderately bad and just won't quit it.
 
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It is my understanding that the condo was purchased for he and Michelle and the kids. It is also my understanding that due to the mortgage being in his name there were several instances where she and the children were put out in the middle of the night. All of this is rumor that I have heard and should be considered as rumor. I haven't been on here much although I read alot. I'm not real clear on what I can legally post or not legally post in regards to "talk around the town" kind of stuff. Can someone direct me?
Thanks

Wow, that's really sad. In FL, he cannot just throw her out if she has established residency (DL w/ that address & mail rec'd). He would actually have to go through the court to evict her legally even if a person is not on deed or lease. Those poor babies. I wonder if the family has initiated any type of custody or guardianship yet. I fear for the kids. JMO.
 
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Here is a portion of the transcript from People's Court regarding Dale moving Michelle out of the condo.

MP: I don't, so anyway we returned the car, I stayed with him, oh go back we had another argument which, of course, that's bound to happen, just swept that one under the rug, here comes another one. He was going out of town for a bachelor party, so to be in control of the situation, to make sure that I wasn't leaving, he himself went to U-Haul, rented a U-Haul, .packed most of my belongings, most of the kids' belongings into a U-Haul and dropped me off and the three kids, cause I have an 11-year old prior to a two-bedroom house.

JM: Who's two-bedroom house?

MP: My mother's, just dropped us off with the U-Haul with some of our stuff and said “here you go” and left.

JM: Actually that was sort of helpful because if you were gonna move out for real, then he moved you out.

MP: Well, um, yeah, it got everything started

DS: The reason I got the U-Haul was because I came home from work on two different occasions and she had took the kids and left and took a bunch of my property as well. So I wasn't gonna have her move out a third time

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As I stated earlier, it appears it was an ongoing situation between them, either she moved out or he helped her move out.

Clearly they were not made for one another!
 
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