France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #1

[Isabelle]

Shutting down our borders is useless!
They are here. They are planning. They will act.

Agree and I think what they are doing in other countries is practice for what they will do here.

 

[Trident]

Shutting down our borders is useless!
They are here. They are planning. They will act.

And the PTB let them in - encouraged them, made border patrol stand down.

 

[Trident]

FBI director James Comey said during a House Committee on Homeland Security hearing on Wednesday that the federal government does not have the ability to conduct thorough background checks on all of the 10,000 Syrian refugees that the Obama administration says will be allowed to come to the U.S.Mike. Huckabee on CNN today suggested that if France closed their borders to Syrian refugees, the US should do so. I don't know that I agree with him, but we must find a solution.

If they can't check 'em out, don't let 'em in. America was a better country when immigration was controlled, limited to healthy individuals with skills, or someone stable to vouch for them. Look at the mess we're in now 'cause we can't do proper background checks, or maybe we don't want to? Who in 'ell want terrorists here, may I politely ask?

 

[CARIIS]

Media ia aware of about 500 who get readicalized . So that is 500. Wonder if they should just take 1000 army people (or whatever) and just taiil them , like in old movies, just totally open - but then I think they dont care if they die, but it sounds like they had assualt weapons - I assume AK 47's are identifable. So if little Ahfswe Arifgomuduaashan is seen leaving his place of residence with a golf bag or whatever search em right then. dunno just reaching here blatenly follow em everywhere they go - out in the open sit in a car in front of their resident , if they go grocery store follow em and walk behing them stand outside a public toilet if they need to go etc make know they are being trailed who knows huh?

All govts keep saying we dont have the resources, well maybe the time has come to GET the rourcess

In reality in would propably cost less money than al the costs related to cleaning up after all these events. It sure seems as if nothing changes except the death counts .............

 

[Colin de France]

...latest report from Paris hospitals......136 dead....300 injured including 80 with life threatning injuries.......

 

[ZaZara]

AYAAN HIRSI ALI: ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF VIOLENCE

...we can distinguish three different groups of Muslims in the world today based on how they envision and practice their faith.
To understand whether violence is inherent in the doctrine of Islam, it is important to look at the example of the founding father of Islam, Mohammed, and the passages in the Quran and Islamic jurisprudence used to justify the violence we currently see in so many parts of the Muslim world


http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/09...iolence-ayaan-hirsi-ali-debate-islamic-state/

In a speech this past July, British Prime Minister David Cameron said: “imply denying any connection between the religion of Islam and the extremists doesn’t work, because these extremists are self-identifying as Muslims. The fact is from Woolwich to Tunisia, from Ottawa to Bali, these murderers all spout the same twisted narrative, one that claims to be based on a particular faith. Now it is an exercise in futility to deny that.” I agree.

The view that the ideology of radical Islam is rooted in Islamic scripture understands fully the cause of terrorism; it takes religious arguments seriously, and does not view them as a mere smokescreen for underlying “real” motivations, such as socio-economic grievances. This school of thought understands that the problem of radicalization begins long before a suicide bomber straps on his vest or a militant picks up his machine gun; it begins in mosques and schools where imams preach hate, intolerance, and adherence to Medina Islam.


BBM

Very interesting and instructive, much more at link.

 

[Mountaingazer]

If they can't check 'em out, don't let 'em in. America was a better country when immigration was controlled, limited to healthy individuals with skills, or someone stable to vouch for them. Look at the mess we're in now 'cause we can't do proper background checks, or maybe we don't want to? Who in 'ell want terrorists here, may I politely ask?

I am sure the Native Americans felt the same way hundreds of years ago.

 

[Sonya610]

It would also be surprising if they did not have accomplices providing them with support and infrastructure.

It seems all of the bombs worked properly. If they didn't have experts help build the vests/bombs the chances are some would have malfunctioned.

 

[ZaZara]

Yannis Koutsomitis ‏@YanniKouts 9 min.
World politics & Economy. Eurozone analyst.
@zeitonline, @ntvde @AJEnglish @Nieuwsuur contributor

#Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews


BBM


Authorities have no clue whom they are letting in with all these thousands of so called refugees and migrants, overwhelming majority of them are young, single males. So a refugee in october and a terrorist in november. Matter of weeks. There are thousands of them.

 

[gregjrichards]

...latest report from Paris hospitals......136 dead....300 injured including 80 with life threatning injuries.......

Thank you Colin and everyone for the updates it is great to get the latest information from different sources that I might otherwise not see.

Colin, Waddles, all French members and guests we stand united in support of your country from all over the world we continue to send all of you our thoughts and prayers. It is great so many people are rallying to give blood to the victims and help in other ways.

Reading about all the French parents and families desperately seeking news about their missing children and family members is heartbreaking. I can't imagine what they are going through.

 

[Mindmatters]

The Turkish Military has killed 4 Islamic state militants in a border skirmish per Associated Press.

Also, US Secretary of State Kerry is going to do a presser shortly per Fox News.

 

[Colin de France]

It seems all of the bombs worked properly. If they didn't have experts help build the vests/bombs the chances are some would have malfunctioned.

.....well the two cars used haven't been found for the moment, there may well also be complices.......

 

[ZaZara]

Agence France-Presse ‏@AFP 44 sec.

#BREAKING Police raid Brussels neighbourhood in connection with Paris attacks: Belgian TV


BBM

 

[gregjrichards]

Yannis Koutsomitis ‏@YanniKouts 9 min.
World politics & Economy. Eurozone analyst.
@zeitonline, @ntvde @AJEnglish @Nieuwsuur contributor

#Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews


BBM


Authorities have no clue whom they are letting in with all these thousands of so called refugees and migrants, overwhelming majority of them are young, single males. So a refugee in october and a terrorist in november. Matter of weeks. There are thousands of them.

It's terrible France is doing its best to help people and a minority are choosing to pay them back by murdering its citizens. The first refugees landed in Scotland today and it is very concerning who is coming into the country. How do you know who is prepared to die for their cause or those who genuinely need help?

 

[Mindmatters]

.....well the two cars used haven't been found for the moment, there may well also be complices.......

Thanks for this info, somehow I haven't heard that the cars used are missing. That is not good--Sure hope this can be resolved soon.

 

[gregjrichards]

"An Air France flight was grounded in Amsterdam after somebody made threats over Twitter to blow it up.

All passengers were evacuated from flight AF1741 from Schipol airport, which was due to land in Charles de Gaulle in Paris on Saturday afternoon.

Security officials searched the plane with sniffer dogs after an account named @JihadiJohn8 said the jet would be blown up in the same way as the Russian plane leaving Sharm el Sheikh last month."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-media-threat-blow-plane.html#ixzz3rTyOcG4T

I hope and pray they don't manage to go through with this.

 

[ZaZara]

VTM.be
http://nieuws.vtm.be/binnenland/166658-huiszoekingen-molenbeek-na-aanslagen

The Belgian intelligence services are fully engaged in the investigation of a Belgian link to the attacks in Paris, in the night from Friday to Saturday. 127 deaths have been reprted so far.
This afternoon house searches have been conducted in Molendbeek and other locations. Earlier it was known that eyewitnesses saw the terrorists driving in Paris in a car with a Belgian licence plate.

 

[gregjrichards]

"Less than 24 hours after Jihadi John was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Syria, terrorists unleashed a wave of attacks across Paris, killing 127 and wounding hundreds more.

ISIS claimed responsibility for the attacks, saying they were the 'first in a storm'. Some online fanatics claimed they were revenge for the slaying of Jihadi John, real name Mohammed Emwazi.

But the complexity of the coordinated attacks, which herald a 'new wave of terror', suggest they took months to plan, counter terrorism experts told MailOnline.

This was planned long before Jihadi John's death but it's possible that they thought this was a good trigger,' said Raffaello Pantucci, director of International Security Studies at counter terrorism think tank RUSI.

He added: 'They struck a stadium where the President [of France] was watching a football match and that is what they were going for. They must have known he was going to be there.'

The terrorists were targetting France because it is one of its biggest 'crusader enemies' in the West, Pantucci told MailOnline."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ht-murderous-spree-forward.html#ixzz3rTzFkNyI

 

[FrostOwl]

Yannis Koutsomitis ‏@YanniKouts 9 min.
World politics & Economy. Eurozone analyst.
@zeitonline, @ntvde @AJEnglish @Nieuwsuur contributor

#Greece PublicOrderMin Toskas confirms Paris attacker w Syrian passport was registered as refugee on Leros island in Oct. /via @AntennaNews

BBM

Authorities have no clue whom they are letting in with all these thousands of so called refugees and migrants, overwhelming majority of them are young, single males. So a refugee in october and a terrorist in november. Matter of weeks. There are thousands of them.

The question is whether the person on the passport and the person carrying the passport was the same person, as there have been more than 160.000 males killed in Syria since the war began, and ISIS could easily pick up suitable passports. A number of men from France, the U.K. and other countries in Europe have gone to Syria to fight with the ISIS, and it's more likely that ISIS would send a person born in Europe to commit a terrorist attack, than a person who is a genuine refugee would do that.

 

[Mindmatters]

According to BBC, the Paris terrorist attacks were the work of a self-contained (group of 8 attackers) terrorist cell back in Paris from Syria.