France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #1

[Sonya610]

Exactly, this has nothing to do with the refugees.

Wasn't it reported that one was a Syrian "refugee" in the EU for less than a month?

If so that is proof that the refugee population DOES have ISIL terrorists in the mix.

 

[ZaZara]

http://news.yahoo.com/several-arres...vbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjEzMjRfMQRzZWMDc2M-


Brussels (AFP) - Belgian police arrested several suspects in Brussels on Saturday during raids connected to the Paris attacks, including one who was in the French capital at the time of the carnage, Prime Minister Charles Michel said.

Michel told Belgian television that the arrests were linked to "suspect vehicles" identified during the investigation by French police into the attacks that killed at least 129 people.

The possible link to the new Paris attacks raises fresh fears that Belgium is becoming a hotbed of militancy, coming just months after connections emerged to the Charlie Hebdo attacks and August's attempted attack on an Amsterdam-Paris train.


BBM

 

[relay]

Three Teams of Coordinated Attackers Carried Out Assault on Paris, Officials Say; Hollande Blames ISIS


"...As the death toll rose to 129 victims — with 352 others injured, 99 of them critically — a basic timeline of the attacks came into view...."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/w...nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

 

[FindHG]

Currently, Heavy police activity around Eiffel T. area hotel, Pullman Hotel?


129 killed.

352, injured, many seriously, so this number may go up

according to Paris Prosecutor, Mr, Moulin.

Passports found: it's not yet clear if really belongs to the attacker

The severed finger was at the Bataclan, linked to Coursrn.

Mix of foreign and one French citizen so far, confirmed.

http://www.france24.com/en/

images shown from SM:

 

[CarmelEyesD]

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id2570


Eiffel Tower area in Paris being evacuated - Reuters

 

[ZaZara]

Exactly, this has nothing to do with the refugees.

Wasn't it reported that one was a Syrian "refugee" in the EU for less than a month?

If so that is proof that the refugee population DOES have ISIL terrorists in the mix.

In most European countries, jihadists who have left for Syria and IS cannot simply return home if they want to. Posing as a refugee with false papers is a viable option, especially after German Chancellor Merkel invited everybody and caused mayhem and chaos.

MSM have a preference for pictures of refugees with young children. This is a false representation of the facts. The majority of immigrants are young men. If you see the way they march through South and Central Europe, they look an army without uniforms. As many think that indeeed they are.

Nobody is doing background checks or verification of identity on these people. The only thing that is done, if it is done at all, is that immigrants have to leave a fingerprint in the country where they first register. If they do not register, no fingerprints are registered.

In relation to the attacks in Paris, it is said that two immigrants were registered in Greece recently.

 

[ZaZara]

Dutch reporter Harald Doornbos bought himself a fake Syrian passport with name (a bit Arabized to Malik Ramadan) and picture of Dutch PM Rutte.

Harald Doornbos ‏@HaraldDoornbos

this story:




It is very easy to claim that you are a refugee from Syria.

Article by Harald Doornbos from April 2015:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/13/italy-islamic-state-syria-refugees/

Italy Opens the Door to Disaster

Italian officials are turning a blind eye to the Syrian refugees fleeing the country for Northern Europe. And even the refugees themselves are worried that anyone could be traveling in their midst -- even terrorists with the Islamic State.

 

[longlonglake]

This was my own post that might not have gotten read because it was an edit.

 

[FrostOwl]

The majority of immigrants are young men. If you see the way they march through South and Central Europe, they look an army without uniforms. As many think that indeeed they are.

An army, or those who don't want to be conscripted by force to one or another army (the Syrian or ISIS) they don't approve of? I recall the deserters during the 1960ies and 1970ies that came to Sweden when they didn't want to do war.

 

[FindHG]

"We have to find out where they came from... and how they were financed," Francois Molins told reporters.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34823938

includes a very graphic video of a woman hanging from a window during the attacks, of victims and survivors seeking safety

 

[longlonglake]

Sleeper cells. Have they been here for years and years?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Police have evacuated the area around the Paris Eiffel tower and the surrounding Champ de Mars park. Heavy police presence was seen at the Pullman Hotel on Avenue de Suffren near the Eiffel tower.

http://www.trust.org/item/20151114210628-90o66

 

[bluesneakers]

Sleeper cells. Have they been here for years and years?

Are sleeper cells a real thing? Have there been any attacks carried out by sleeper cells? I thought they were just a myth.

 

[FindHG]

Sleeper cells. Have they been here for years and years?

The jihadis, who brutally compete with each other in the Middle East for influence, have become the underlying ethos of young activist or get in the mix minded Middle Easterners for two or three generations now.

Hasn't happened in a vacuum. Huge amounts of money go with these ideologies and a messed up global outlook permeates and into their media & guns.

Their backers would naturally be the older more empowered and strategic sugar daddies, far from the fray and effective prying eyes.

Unfortunately, money buys experts, opinion, impressions and then the conventional wisdom gets skewed to accept concepts that don't work as well for mitigation.

It won't end until instilling hate doesn't work as a strategy, even then strategically, it's the cutout way they get to play.

Sorry if this makes no sense, but not much does when Paris, of all places suffers this way. The cells haven't been sleeping, nor are they just cells.

 

[ZaZara]

An army, or those who don't want to be conscripted by force to one or another army (the Syrian or ISIS) they don't approve of? I recall the deserters during the 1960ies and 1970ies that came to Sweden when they didn't want to do war.

Hi FrostOwl, IMHO it would be well worth the while to make a list of the differences between the deserters of the 1960 and 1970 and the people who are now coming to Sweden.
Also of the differences - if indeed there are any - between the US army and IS.

The main problem is that no one has a clue who is coming, but even the Dutch Minister for Safety and Justice takes into consideration that persons with bad intentions may hide among the immigrants. He said so on Dutch tv 15 minutes ago.

 

[Skittles]

And now this:

A high-speed TGV train has derailed near the eastern French city of Strasbourg, killing at least 10 people, officials say.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34822666

France did not need another horrible catastrophe. Prayers for the families of the victims and all of France today.

 

[longlonglake]

An army, or those who don't want to be conscripted by force to one or another army (the Syrian or ISIS) they don't approve of? I recall the deserters during the 1960ies and 1970ies that came to Sweden when they didn't want to do war.

Since Sweden is a neutral country, you may be able to hope that the refugees you allow in won't bomb and kill, since they have no reason to hate you. After all, what has Sweden done to anger the Muslims? Let us see if they leave you alone after you have welcomed Middle Eastern and other refugees and immigrants to your country.

Sweden will never be the same, even if no extremist terrorism is done to you. Its entire culture will be changed in the near future. If my Swedish father could come back from the grave and visit you, he would not recognize his country. For small countries to allow HUGE numbers of those with totally alien cultures and religions, even if peaceful, to overtake them in such a short time, can only cause overwhelming harm.

 

[Sonya610]

It won't end until instilling hate doesn't work as a strategy, even then strategically, it's the cutout way they get to play...

Other possibility is it WILL change when a large percentage of indigenous Europeans are just as hate filled as the jihadists, then there will be blood in the streets.

Europe has a growing right wing and they are becoming more vocal and more active all of the time.

One tiny German village with a population of 102 people was forced to take in 500 refugees! Plus they expect 250 more! That is insane, they basically turned a historic tiny German village into a Syrian town and people are going to get fed up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lation-just-102-neo-Nazi-town-councillor.html

 

[popsicle]

Fox News ‏@FoxNews 15m15 minutes ago
Breaking News: All clear at the Pullman Hotel in #Paris - was a false alarm.

 

[SCHMAE]

And now this:

A high-speed TGV train has derailed near the eastern French city of Strasbourg, killing at least 10 people, officials say.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34822666

France did not need another horrible catastrophe. Prayers for the families of the victims and all of France today.

What the heck ? Cause of crash ?