France - Five shot, four dead in French Alps, may have int'l ramifications #1

[laurauk1]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned but in response to those asking about phones, a blackberry and an iPhone were apparently found at the scene. So two mobiles for the three adults which I guess sort of makes sense - i'd expect that both the mother and father would have phones but not necessarily the elder lady. Although if I was travelling internationally I would probably make sure I had one. That's just probably a generational thing though! I hear people once survived perfectly fine without mobiles!

 

[Zuckerschnecke]

One other poster asked about them being tracked through an iPhone planted in the car. While that would work, to trace them, we need to remember that WHO is tracing them is also traceable. Unless the killer (s) removed the phone from the car, it seems unlikely.

What I am wondering is how they had such aim through the car windows. Even if the windows weren't tinted, there was enough glare that would make it difficult to get them point blank like that. Maybe there are special vision devices, I don't know.

This whole thing reeks of espionage or weapons secrets. Could he have been involved in getting weapons to a country like Iran for example? Not sure what to think, but I do think the neighbor and witness need to run for the hills because they could be next.

 

[writer7]

Don't forget the friendly espionage angle! He could work for the Brits. Satellites and imagery are huge in espionage and war technology.

Maybe I'm too old and this is no longer common knowledge, but if someone is found to be a spy for sure, the side he's spying on will try to take him out if they think it helps their cause to do so.

They'll take out a whole family, depending on who 'they' are. Espionage is still a nasty business! There are a lot of good, patriotic folks in it, though. Even the underground, very secret stuff.

So, if he worked for the Brits -- as he probably would, living there -- then who are against the Brits who are nasty enough to kill a whole family? Plenty, probably

I can still see a professional hit angle, too, though. I think you can absolutely find folks to kill the children, as sick as that is.

 

[graceholl]

Morning all

http://news.sky.com/story/983064/alps-shooting-police-cordon-off-family-home

House cordoned off and neighbours in two adjacent roads have been evacuated?! Is this routine procedure? I have never heard of this happening.

 

[sherlockh]

It is slowly starting to make a little bit of sense.

Detectives investigating the shooting in the alps massacre are looking into whether Saad Al-Hilli could have been targeted over links to the defence industry.

Also:

It was also reported that French police are hunting two killers after discovering that more than one weapon was used in the shootings.

Now the question remains, who would want him dead?

Much more at link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ssassinated-over-secret-defence-contract.html

 

[Clio]

Morning all

http://news.sky.com/story/983064/alps-shooting-police-cordon-off-family-home

House cordoned off and neighbours in two adjacent roads have been evacuated?! Is this routine procedure? I have never heard of this happening.

I posted some pages ago that the search of the family home seemed "over the top" for a routine search. Forensic from the get go. Police took angle grinders in and firemen in full protective clothing went in yesterday. Not routine imho.

 

[Clio]

BBC News reporting bomb disposal vehicle arrived at family home

 

[Sarahlou]

Bomb disposal?? Damn. This case keeps getting more and more intriguing.

 

[graceholl]

Bomb disposal

 

[graceholl]

@skybod has news updates plus photo of bomb disposal van.

What on earth is going on?

 

[Clio]

Possible bombs in home in case assasination in France failed????

 

[katydid23]

I wonder if the bomb had been planted before the family left but something scared them into leaving before it was detonated?

 

[katydid23]

WHOA---maybe the bomb was meant for the first responders. The killers knew the cops would come to the house after the killings, and they would blow up along with the remaining evidence that links them to the crime?

 

[graceholl]

Possible bombs in home in case assasination in France failed????

That's what I was thinking. But just seems so OTT.

 

[ScotsPaddy]

I wonder if had a safe or his stash place rigged to explode.I believe it was posted earlier that the father said to a neighbour he would hide documents/papers?

 

[graceholl]

An interesting tweet

True Crime Inc ‏@wensleyclarkson
Al-Hilli killings. Are French police really appreciating how much danger witnesses are in?

 

[laurauk1]

I've got two theories on this. Either something was planted in his house to cause harm on his return. Or, the victim had some kind of weaponry/bomb equipment of his own in the house which has been found.

This is all getting more and more like a film every day.

 

[Sarahlou]

I wonder if the bomb had been planted before the family left but something scared them into leaving before it was detonated?

Hmm. Didn't an article say it was a bit of a last minute holiday? You might be on to something there.

 

[graceholl]

What if Al Hilli had planted explosives in his own home for whatever reason, and left the country (at a seemingly odd time - school going back etc) to protect himself and his family. Destroying evidence? Setting up his brother/another figure to make it look like an attempted assassination?

 

[~n/t~]

I hope they're checking his other properties.....or the ones his father owned in Spain, South-France and Switzerland.