GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4

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Hang on, if it was SO bothersome to have people coming in an out the house, why did no one put a “no trespassing” sign? GM can say that it’s criminal trespass until he’s blue in the face, reality is that it isn’t. Not really a matter of opinion. You’d think GM would know that considering he worked for law enforcement

This is a good explanation here Georgia Trespassing 101

Relevant bits:

A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose.

1. The trespasser must have unlawful purpose when he enters the premise or vehicle

A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, occupant, or representative that such entry is forbidden.

1. Prohibition to enter a premise must be taken seriously. If there are “no trespassing” signs posted on fences, tress, or barb wires of a private property, it is better to avoid or get out of the property.
2. Wandering, strolling, and walking around a private property which doesn’t have expressed prohibition to enter it do not amount to trespassing unless the person enters the property with unlawful purpose.

 

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@DanaeBucci

Defense attorney Jason Sheffield says Kevin Gough’s comments were “totally asinine and ridiculous.” He went on to say this case is not about a lynching or racism but rather about a neighborhood and crime.

 

[Hope4More]

DNM...

 

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Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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Rash: The text was for Greg McMichael, not Travis, based on his training as retired law enforcement, to call us and tell us & direct us where we needed to go.

State: The defense characterizing it as "solving a crime," but what was your intent if you'd contacted the now-deceased homicide victim? Rash: Identify him and trespass him--the latter is the property owner's decision--or just tell him not to come back

State: Rubin went over all the stuff in open unsecured site lying around--saw, lumber. English ever report any of it stolen? Rash: Not to my knowledge. State: Electronics? Plumbing? Fixtures? Electronics? Tools? Camper break-ins? No ma'am, he says to each



Rash: At no time did Mr English tell me he ever takes that boat anywhere; my understanding was stuff taken from boat was taken at that site. English didn't file report; he'd mentioned something about his insurance deductible, might not be worth it

Rash: According to Mr. English there was no footage of the contractors or anyone taking items--he just knew they were missing. State: Since contractors have big boxes in and out, they could hide things in them to take it? Rash: Absolutely.

State: Ever see Mr. #AhmaudArbery with a bag or backpack a way to steal anything from house? Rash: "I've never seen him with anything in his hands coming or going from the property on the videos that I've seen."



State: Defense keeps saying #AhmaudArbery had "gotten away" from police. Any information Mr. Arbery has ESP, some way to know police have been called on him? Rash: No, ma'am.

State: You get paid as a police officer, right? Rash: Very little, but yes. (Courtroom laughs) It's your job to respond to 911. R: Yes. They discuss his uniform. He agrees it's a signifier to people to do what he says.

State: Travis McMichael described #AhmaudArbery as "hauling into the house." You saw the video; what was he doing? Rash: Walking slowly, normally. English described him as "running" towards Jones Rd. Any info that Arbery has ESP? Defense objected: Speculation

State: Was this #AhmaudArbery's routine? Look around, then continue his job? Defense: Objection, this officer has no knowledge of him jogging. Judge sustains. State: Do you have any knowledge that Arbery ever stole anything from there? Rash: I do not.

Hogue re-cross: You went to police school? You have to know about crimes so you know why you're arresting someone? Yes. State: Obj, outside the scope.

Hogue: You understand burglary to be entering a dwelling with intent to commit a felony therein? Rash: Yes. H: English's house is a dwelling? R. Yes. H: Expensive things were missing, so basics for a burglary? R: It was from a boat not the dwelling.

Hogue: Boat was at dwelling. You said if had caught #AhmaudArbery there, typical procedure is to "trespass" him out. If homeowner said, He may be the burglar, you'd investigate too? Rash: There was no report by English of a burglary at his residence.

Rash: I wasn't on duty when English called. Had he made a formal report, and I'd later come into contact with #AhmaudArbery, I'd notify officer who had responded, so they could follow up. Hogue: So somebody would've investigated to look for English's stuff? Rash: Yes.





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[Cryptic]

Travis on 2/11 911 call: " I don't know if he's armed or not. But he looked like he was acting like he was."

Jeez, I wonder if Travis can articulate how the victim was "acting as if he was armed"?

Was the victim say, going "tactical"? Maybe pretending to draw a pistol with out actually doing so? Or, was he possibly* trespassing while black and therefore presumed to be armed and dangerous?

* Entering a construction site in Georgia is not trespass unless there are posted signs or the individual had been previously told not to enter.

While signs were posted at the property at some point, it is far from clear if they were posted before or after the shooting. What is clear is that signs were not posted for an extended period of time.

The totality suggests that E's concerns about trespassing and the McMichaels hyper vigilance rose in direct proportion to who was actually trespassing.

 

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Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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CORRECTION: Gough said, "I've been asked to address some comments the other day; the Court hasn't asked me to...If my statements yesterday were overly broad, I'll follow up w/a more specific motion Monday putting them into proper context. #AhmaudArbery @wsbradio

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Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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Good morning! Back in place, viewing #AhmaudArbery shooting case. This morning, Kevin Gough said he's been asked to address yesterday's comments. Judge Wamsley said that request was made by the Court. Gough says he'll be "putting those concerns in the proper context." @wsbradio

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A Glynn County police officer who enlisted a retired district attorney investigator’s help with unwanted visitors in the Satilla Shores neighborhood -- where Ahmaud Arbery was later shot and killed -- was reprimanded for his involvement in a previous highly-criticized case handled by the Glynn County Police Department, according to personnel records obtained by the News4Jax I-TEAM.

Officer Robert Rash was disciplined in 2018 for failing to arrest a fellow officer who assaulted his estranged wife in front of Rash and other officers and then tried to break into her home, personnel records show.


Glynn County cop who asked homeowner to report trespassers to a neighbor was disciplined before

 

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Ahmaud Arbery: Bodycam footage shows McMichaels hunting for Arbery at night 12 days before his death | Daily Mail Online

 

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Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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Georgia Bureau of Investigation Asst. Special Agent In Charge Jason Seacrist takes the stand in the #AhmaudArbery shooting case.



Seacrist was contacted 5.6.2020 and asked to work on the #AhmaudArbery fatal shooting investigation. The GBI's Richard Dial was lead investigator on the case.

Seacrist interviewed Roddie Bryan, 2 formal interviews. The first, 5.11.20. Bryan's atty Kevin Gough was there. Seacrist made no promises to either man that Bryan would get any benefit from this; he didn't pressure or threaten, & told Bryan he didn't have to talk to him



Kevin Gough's limitation on the GBI interview was that Bryan would only be allowed to discuss the events from when he'd left his house on 2.23.2020 to present.

Roddie Bryan told Seacrist he knew Greg McMichael from a local hardware store; didn't know Travis. Had lived in the house for 3 years, and just recently purchased it 2 weeks before Feb. 23.

Seacrist testifies that Roddie Bryan said he could see #AhmaudArbery's hands and that Arbery did not appear to be holding anything. He said his hands "were out" like in a normal running gait

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[clearskies1]

I think Ahmaud Arbery probably saw Albenze with a gun, causing him to take off running fast (fearful) rather than jogging. Then Arbery gets confronted by Travis with a gun. He must have been terrified. JMO.

 

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A Glynn County police officer who enlisted a retired district attorney investigator’s help with unwanted visitors in the Satilla Shores neighborhood -- where Ahmaud Arbery was later shot and killed -- was reprimanded for his involvement in a previous highly-criticized case handled by the Glynn County Police Department, according to personnel records obtained by the News4Jax I-TEAM.

Officer Robert Rash was disciplined in 2018 for failing to arrest a fellow officer who assaulted his estranged wife in front of Rash and other officers and then tried to break into her home, personnel records show.


Glynn County cop who asked homeowner to report trespassers to a neighbor was disciplined before

Ugh, can’t this people just be normal and behave like normal people?

I swear it’s not that difficult, bunch of shady weirdos

 

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Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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Seacrist asked if he'd ever had anything stolen. Bryan said, The main thing was the trailer. And I'd have to clarify w/brother-in-law but it was beer or something petty. It happened in 2019 but he never reported it because he didn't have it locked up.

Seacrist asked Bryan if he knew Larry English. He said no. Bryan had not had neighbors talk to him about things missing, but a couple of times in the shop someone would mention something.

Bryan has security cameras on his property and gave written permission for GBI to come by and search cams.



Roddie Bryan was able to leave freely after 5.11 interview. Seacrist says that day with Bryan, "I identified him as a witness, as it starts off right now. We had a lot of investigative work to do."

Second GBI/Roddie Bryan interview: 5.13.2020. Bryan was not under arrest, cuffed, or detained. His attorney Kevin Gough was there. That day, he recalled he'd been working on his front porch when someone running & a vehicle engine sound caught his attention

Bryan: For whatever reason I was like, OK, he's chasing him in the truck, whoever's in the truck, and I'm figuring I don't know what's going on, but something's wrong. I said, not loudly, You got him? You need help? Nobody could hear me though I'm sure

Bryan said he went to get his keys, explaining it was "to see what was going on, if anything needed to be done, if I could help or whatever...To be honest with you, I don't know what I was doing."

Seacrist asked Bryan again why he went to get his keys. Bryan: I, I, I can't answer. I don't know. I'm thinking, Maybe he's done something--the guy running. I just--I don't know

Seacrist asked, You recognized the truck? Bryan: Uh-huh. I've seen it in the neighborhood. Didn't know from what house. Bryan said he never heard #AhmaudArbery say anything. He mentioned trying to slow Arbery down during the chase.

Bryan said, "I figured if I slowed him down and got a picture that maybe something would happen other than just him getting away and cops not knowing who he was." Seacrist asked, Why did the cops need to know? Bryan: "I figured he'd done something wrong."

GBI ASAC Seacrist asked Roddie Bryan, What made you think he'd done something wrong? Bryan said, "It was just instinct, man."



State asks, Did Bryan say he felt the victim needed to stop running? Gough objects, saying he's lost track of how many times we've used the word "victim." "The jury's going to decide who the victim is here."

Bryan told Seacrist: I figured he stole something. I didn't know if he'd shot somebody. I didn't know what was up. He then told him No, he had not heard any gunshots.

Bryan did not speak to #AhmaudArbery, didn't tell him to stop or say anything about wanting to talk to or arrest him.

Bryan said, "I think I remember seeing Ahmaud turn around and look towards me. I'm still back a good ways. Then he runs around right side of truck and I figured he'd cut the corner and go around Satilla Drive." Says #AhmaudArbery didn't speak or threaten him

Bryan told Seacrist he knew nothing about videos from the construction site or the neighborhood Facebook page. After that interview they did a drive-through reenactment of Bryan's route Feb. 23 in Satilla Shores

Seacrist noted Roddie Bryan's :statements to the Glynn County Police were more direct in his involvement to corral and box in Mr. #AhmaudArbery during the event; his statements to me minimized his involvement in the process that led to Mr. Arbery's death"




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Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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Gough: Is this prosecutor about to ask a witness for his opinions about what other witnesses were told? How is that proper State: I'm going to go through a couple quotes from statements to GCPD and to GBI--not opinions.

Gough: Sounds like closing argument. He can testify to what HE knows. Going to put us in position to make a motion we don't want to. State: I don't see how, both statements are in evidence. KG: That doesn't matter! The jury's already heard them!

Gough: You can't call an expert witness to testify if they BELIEVE somebody or not! It's highly improper! State: I want to pinpoint a couple areas. Gough: 30 years, I've never heard any such thing. We should take this up outside jury's presence. * Jury goes out*.



Gough: I object to prosecution laying foundation that Bryan's changing his statements. Can't call witness to challenge credibility in that way. Olivierre: Not asking Agent to editorialize--going to point out a couple statements, ask him what Bryan said to him on the same subject.

Judge sustains: State can argue it in closing. Back w/jury, Olivierre asks what Roddie Bryan said about the moment he left his driveway on 2.23: "For whatever stupid reason, I don't understand why, I jumped out in the road about the same time he got there".

Seacrist: Why did you pull out and angle that way? Bryan said, I'm thinking, get a picture. Hadn't gotten phone out yet. I see him run around my hood, through the ditch. State: Did he say he tried to force him into ditch, or block him? Seacrist: No ma'am

Bryan: He was down there low, not in the road...comes up...we got really close. I pull past him and a neighbor, I angled up into his drive...about that point I realized I'm in front of him

Bryan to GBI: "He's coming. I backed up to try to get straight. He's on me. I thought, I've got to get out of here. I'm trying to haul and he's on my door with his hands at the handle. I hit gas--not trying to swing boards out the back"

Seacrist: Were you trying to--not trying to pin you down but in your original statement--you talk about trying to box him in & do different things. Were you? Bryan: I wanted to get a picture.

Feb 23 re-enactment. Video is playing muted; ASAC Seacrist narrates. He was driving, Roddie Bryan in passenger seat, Kevin Gough and another GBI agent in backseat.



As Roddie Bryan gave GBI ASAC Seacrist his accounting of his Feb. 23 involvement, he never said he tried to "corner" or "block"




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and I shall continue with the tweets in the morning - "my" morning!

 

[ilovewings]

One conclusion after watching Officer Rash on direct & seeing his body cam from Feb 11: what excellent customer service SS residents received from GC police! My goodness! A "black boy" is seen wandering around in an unfinished house at night exactly *twice,* without taking anything or even rummaging around in anything, and LE asks everyone he sees in the neighborhood if they recognize the still he has conveniently stored on his phone. My goodness!

And when he's seen on video again on Feb 11, why, they even call in D & R to help conduct a river search in addition to a neighborhood search, after they watch him casually sauntering around inside the unfinished house. Oh. And with obviously nothing in his hands. No gun, no flashlight, though Travis tells the 911 dispatcher he sees the scary trespasser inside with a flashlight.

And how interesting, that a white man (nope, not called a boy) is actually caught on video breaking & entering into a car on Dec 8, 2020, and did he....take a gun? A video that was shared with everyone on the SS's FB page. And yet, somehow Travis & Greg conclude it must have been AA who *allegedly* stole T's gun from his unlocked truck on a few weeks later. OK.

And, lo. There is an actual, verifiable, wanted by feds felonious man living right there in the neighborhood, but Officer Rash says, nah, we never looked into him as suspect for any of the alleged crimes happening in SS.

OK, then.

great post- Poor Mr. Arbery- He had no idea he was being stalked and criminalized, even before the horrible day he was actually shot down. I am so incensed and so so sad.

Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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Seacrist asked if he'd ever had anything stolen. Bryan said, The main thing was the trailer. And I'd have to clarify w/brother-in-law but it was beer or something petty. It happened in 2019 but he never reported it because he didn't have it locked up.

Seacrist asked Bryan if he knew Larry English. He said no. Bryan had not had neighbors talk to him about things missing, but a couple of times in the shop someone would mention something.

Bryan has security cameras on his property and gave written permission for GBI to come by and search cams.

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Roddie Bryan was able to leave freely after 5.11 interview. Seacrist says that day with Bryan, "I identified him as a witness, as it starts off right now. We had a lot of investigative work to do."

Second GBI/Roddie Bryan interview: 5.13.2020. Bryan was not under arrest, cuffed, or detained. His attorney Kevin Gough was there. That day, he recalled he'd been working on his front porch when someone running & a vehicle engine sound caught his attention

Bryan: For whatever reason I was like, OK, he's chasing him in the truck, whoever's in the truck, and I'm figuring I don't know what's going on, but something's wrong. I said, not loudly, You got him? You need help? Nobody could hear me though I'm sure

Bryan said he went to get his keys, explaining it was "to see what was going on, if anything needed to be done, if I could help or whatever...To be honest with you, I don't know what I was doing."

Seacrist asked Bryan again why he went to get his keys. Bryan: I, I, I can't answer. I don't know. I'm thinking, Maybe he's done something--the guy running. I just--I don't know

Seacrist asked, You recognized the truck? Bryan: Uh-huh. I've seen it in the neighborhood. Didn't know from what house. Bryan said he never heard #AhmaudArbery say anything. He mentioned trying to slow Arbery down during the chase.

Bryan said, "I figured if I slowed him down and got a picture that maybe something would happen other than just him getting away and cops not knowing who he was." Seacrist asked, Why did the cops need to know? Bryan: "I figured he'd done something wrong."

GBI ASAC Seacrist asked Roddie Bryan, What made you think he'd done something wrong? Bryan said, "It was just instinct, man."

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State asks, Did Bryan say he felt the victim needed to stop running? Gough objects, saying he's lost track of how many times we've used the word "victim." "The jury's going to decide who the victim is here."

Bryan told Seacrist: I figured he stole something. I didn't know if he'd shot somebody. I didn't know what was up. He then told him No, he had not heard any gunshots.

Bryan did not speak to #AhmaudArbery, didn't tell him to stop or say anything about wanting to talk to or arrest him.

Bryan said, "I think I remember seeing Ahmaud turn around and look towards me. I'm still back a good ways. Then he runs around right side of truck and I figured he'd cut the corner and go around Satilla Drive." Says #AhmaudArbery didn't speak or threaten him

Bryan told Seacrist he knew nothing about videos from the construction site or the neighborhood Facebook page. After that interview they did a drive-through reenactment of Bryan's route Feb. 23 in Satilla Shores

Seacrist noted Roddie Bryan's :statements to the Glynn County Police were more direct in his involvement to corral and box in Mr. #AhmaudArbery during the event; his statements to me minimized his involvement in the process that led to Mr. Arbery's death"

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Scariest words from Bryan's big mouth
"I figured he'd done something wrong"
When asked why he thought that
he said
""It's just instinct man"

I guess he hasn't got very good instinct

 

[tlcya]

defense now insinuating that the witness planted false memories in the mind of Mr. Bryan or somehow coached him into saying what he said and did months before when they eventually redrove the route he travelled during his hunt/chase of AA on Feb 23. I can't with this attorney. sigh

 

[californiagem]

Defense attorney trying to portay AA attempted to car jack Roddy. So disgusting.

 

[Smkd]

great post- Poor Mr. Arbery- He had no idea he was being stalked and criminalized, even before the horrible day he was actually shot down. I am so incensed and so so sad.


Scariest words from Bryan's big mouth
"I figured he'd done something wrong"
When asked why he thought that
he said
""It's just instinct man"

I guess he hasn't got very good instinct

lmao instinct? Is that what they’re gonna call racism now?

It’s super disturbing that unbeknownst to AA these people were talking about him, demonising him, stalking him and obsessing over all this. He was just going for his runs and checking out the house every now and then, and he was none the wiser.

 

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Defense attorney trying to portay AA attempted to car jack Roddy. So disgusting.

Don’t tell me don’t tell me, it’s Gough saying that

 

[Pet woman]

defense now insinuating that the witness planted false memories in the mind of Mr. Bryan or somehow coached him into saying what he said and did months before when they eventually redrove the route he travelled during his hunt/chase of AA on Feb 23. I can't with this attorney. sigh

Gough’s behavior is nauseating, Agent Seacrist is standing firm, against Gough trying to twist, his words and summary. At this point, I feel the jury, may be getting tired of his antics. I know I sure am. Gag

 

[californiagem]

Don’t tell me don’t tell me, it’s Gough saying that

If that's the name Roddys attorney, then bingo. He is despicable to me.
He's not getting anywhere with this witness though. Very strong witness. Imo