GUILTY GA - Rusty Sneiderman shot to death at Dunwoody preschool, 18 Nov 2010 #5

[CarolinaMoon]

Thank you for Carolina Moon for posting the video of AS mom on the stand. One of the things that has bothered me was that they did not go to the hospital from Dunwoody Prep, let alone they went to Dunwoody Prep first.

Based on the fact that RS had sustained 5 GSW, the likelihood of his surviving for any length of time was close to Zero. I am sure he was pronounced shortly after arriving at the hospital after attempts to revive him failed. So basically, RS died "alone". His wife apparently didn't think to ask where they took her husband. Normally, the ER will keep the deceased patient in a room for the family to see until the family arrives.

I am not clear as to why an officer did not meet AS as soon as she arrived at Dunwoody Prep. They were at the crime scene. According to AS mom, their first encounter with the police happened at AS home. Am I incorrect in this?

I do not understand either how the police worked this case. From some articles I read, there seemed to be no team work or continuity. Any info on this would be appreciated. I am late to this trial and I am very puzzled. TIA

At the point Andrea and her mother were told to go home, nobody knew which hospital Rusty had been taken to. BTW, he wasn't taken to the nearest trauma center.

As to the police interaction with her, I have no clue why an officer didn't discuss the situation with her. Maybe those who had responded were very busy trying to assess the situation.

 

[Zuri]

BBM

The whole situation at Dunwoody Prep, and who said what to who is very bizarre. I still scratch my head over that. I honestly am still not 100% as to how all of that went down.

I didn't love the investigators in this case. It doesn't change how I feel about Andrea, nor does it change the fact that she clearly hid information. But I have to say, that I thought some of the police work and interrogations were lacking.

IMO

ITA. Based on my knowledge of how ERs work, RS may have arrived at the Level 1 Trauma Center as a John Doe, unless a police officer went directly to the hospital and provided the info as to RS identity. Normally, that is what happens within a short time frame after the patients arrival. Next of kin is determined and usually the ER will call the family to come down unless the police are handling that part of it concurrently. It is beyond my comprehension that AS was not screaming "Where is my husband?". I find her actions circumspect at best, but then maybe I am being too harsh. I sure as hades would want to know what happened and where my loved one was in less than 30 seconds. Nor would I be polite about it. The sight of crime tape is a pretty good indicator that something bad went down.

Given RS age, I am positive all the stops were pulled out. The paramedics have a direct line to the ER and can send the EKG, perform CPR, and give all the necessary code drugs, push IV fluids etc. We have done internal cardiac massage in similar situations in addition to the life saving measures started in the ambulance. AS must have known the situation was dire and to go home is just COLD. Even if that is "what they were told to do", who does that? JMV

 

[JusticeJunkie]

MikePetchenikWSB @petchenikwsb

#AndreaSneiderman jury is entering its 5th hour of deliberations. Not a peep. #WSBTV.

I can't help but wonder what is going through AS's mind now. If she's nervous, she's hiding it well. On second thought, she hides a lot of things pretty well. I can't really get a read on her.

 

[aa9511]

I am quoting and bolding myself, lol...

To finish my thought... the one thing that nags at me a bit, and I'm hoping does not cause an issue with the jurors, is the fact that Andrea mentions Hemy's name on Nov 19th in response to their question about if there is anyone wanting to break up their marriage.

Without rehashing the entire response, she brushes it away saying that she declined his advances and that was that. But if I were that investigator, I would have followed up on that to find out what the scoop is with this Hemy. It may have been nothing at all but isn't that why you investigate. They did drop the ball there.

Again, doesn't change how Andrea hid information and she should be culpable for that. Just hoping that this doesn't hang them up.

Hmm...interesting. I hope not, too. One thing that got me was per Shayna's testimony, why did Andrea tell Shayna that the eyes in the police sketch looked like those of Hemy (I think this was Nov. 18 or 19)? At that time she was denying any invovement with Hemy, so why would she risk telling that to Shayna? Also why risk telling her about the midnight conversation when she claims she asked Hemy if he had anything to do with it and he said no? I'm assuming this was for her protection so she could say, I did my part, I followed through with my suspiciion and he denied it and I believed him. But why would she have Shayna believe that she was suspicious of him to begin with?

 

[seattlechiquita]

I can't help but wonder what is going through AS's mind now. If she's nervous, she's hiding it well. On second thought, she hides a lot of things pretty well. I can't really get a read on her.

I think she is convinced she will be acquitted. All weasels are.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I don't think the parents should even be allowed to testify, I'm talking about any trial. Even if the jury knows the motivation of the parents, the testimony probably still affects them on some subconcious level, even if they know they're lying. The attorneys are always so careful that even one word they don't want the jury to hear should be stricken, etc., yet then they let the parents get up there and spew lies for their children, no matter what side they are on. If nothing else, it confuses the jurors so they can't see the truth clearly.

At least, in this case, the jury DID have the opportunity to see her lie when the prosecution played the video of her deposition where she didn't remember a darn thing about that e-mail from Hemy!

BTW: Peeps, with this site acting up, please don't take offense if I don't like your post! Not worth refreshing to do it!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I don't think the parents should even be allowed to testify, I'm talking about any trial. Even if the jury knows the motivation of the parents, the testimony probably still affects them on some subconcious level, even if they know they're lying. The attorneys are always so careful that even one word they don't want the jury to hear should be stricken, etc., yet then they let the parents get up there and spew lies for their children, no matter what side they are on. If nothing else, it confuses the jurors so they can't see the truth clearly.

BBM: I agree ...

:waitasec: Remember the A's ... okay . . . I will :silenced:

 

[Tipstaff]

Hummmmm.....You Finally back from the mani/pedi?

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Yes, and it was a big job.

Hanging in here and checking in every 18 minutes....thanks to the poster that put that little thought in my head!

Guess my prediction of after lunch isn't working out so well.

 

[seattlechiquita]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Yes, and it was a big job.

Hanging in here and checking in every 18 minutes....thanks to the poster that put that little thought in my head!

Guess my prediction of after lunch isn't working out so well.

BBM. Leave it to yours truly to read that as b00b job. I thought "wow, I should ask Tipstaff for the address of her nail-boobie salon" :floorlaugh:

 

[lisasalinger]

Hmm...interesting. I hope not, too. One thing that got me was per Shayna's testimony, why did Andrea tell Shayna that the eyes in the police sketch looked like those of Hemy (I think this was Nov. 18 or 19)? At that time she was denying any invovement with Hemy, so why would she risk telling that to Shayna? Also why risk telling her about the midnight conversation when she claims she asked Hemy if he had anything to do with it and he said no? I'm assuming this was for her protection so she could say, I did my part, I followed through with my suspiciion and he denied it and I believed him. But why would she have Shayna believe that she was suspicious of him to begin with?

It really could just be as simple as... she wasn't using her head.
It's much easier for us to sit back after the fact (being the analytical types that we are) and say "they never should have done that".

But the reality is that when somebody lies about something or commits a crime... the amount of effort it takes to cover it up is pretty huge. Even the smartest of people can't imagine in advance every possible twist and turn that their lie/crime will take.

IMO

 

[aa9511]

Commentators talking about 2 years in prison...long time blah blah...nooo, I think she should get full maximum time for each count she is found guilty. So if she has 13 counts, wouldn't that mean she would only be found guilty for about 2 of them??

 

[lisasalinger]

Lunch break time... no nails or getting done... just a sandwich

 

[seattlechiquita]

Commentators talking about 2 years in prison...long time blah blah...nooo, I think she should get full maximum time for each count she is found guilty. So if she has 13 counts, wouldn't that mean she would only be found guilty for about 2 of them??

2 years total? Lame! I guess it will depend a lot on what the judge thinks is appropriate. He is no fan of AS (remember he kicked her azz out of HIS courtroom during HN's trial), but he is a fair man. Who knows.

 

[Tipstaff]

BBM. Leave it to yours truly to read that as b00b job. I thought "wow, I should ask Tipstaff for the address of her nail-boobie salon" :floorlaugh:[/QUOT


Perhaps the next great business to get into.....Boob jobs, nails and oil changes............one stop for everything. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Softail]

Ryan Stansbury is tweeting his little heart out:



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Ryan Stansbury @rstansbu

To convict #AndreaSneiderman, you must take the word of a mentally ill convicted murderer through the mouthpiece of his real estate agent.



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Ryan Stansbury @rstansbu

@LizStans Those of you who are so quick to condemn #AndreaSneiderman are ignoring real facts and choosing to believe suppositions.


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Ryan Stansbury @rstansbu

To convict #AndreaSneiderman, you must ignore that Shayna lied on the stand. Her testimony to the police completely changed on the stand.


Ryan Stansbury @rstansbu

To convict #AndreaSneiderman, you must ask yourself why Andrea would call Hemy in the morning if they were sleeping on the same room.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Beyond the fact that she told three peeps, and texted another that Rusty was shot before she should have known, there is another reason I believe she knew what Hemy was going to do.
I have mulled this over and over in my mind. Preschool started at 9AM, right? So I'm guessing Rusty was there about 8:50, and if all went well he should have been back home shortly after 9.
Andrea was notified at 9:30 that she needed to come to the preschool ASAP, but that her son was fine. Since her her husband was the one last at the preschool, and the last one to see their son, and in her mind, he should have been at home by then..............how could she POSSIBLY have not phoned her husband?
I can think of many emergencies that could happen at a preschool other than thinking out of the blue, my husband is shot and dying.
Beyond not calling Rusty, I can't imagine phoning my parents, my BROTHER, many friends, ect., for something that may not even involve my family and husband.. And I can't imagine my brother, (if I had one) taking off work and rushing to the preschool for something that COULD be many possibilities, beyond Rusty being injured. And even IF she thought Rusty may have been injured, how did she know someone didn't run over his foot, or someone rear endded him, or a miriad of other possibilities?
My parents may come, if they were near and both retired, but more than likely, I would just keep them posted. The brother taking off work really bothers me.
It makes me think that not only Andrea knew more than she told, but possibly her family, as well.
What do you guys think?

PS She told her mom that something had happened to Rusty, even though the preschool didn't mention Rusty at all.

 

[aa9511]

It really could just be as simple as... she wasn't using her head.
It's much easier for us to sit back after the fact (being the analytical types that we are) and say "they never should have done that".

But the reality is that when somebody lies about something or commits a crime... the amount of effort it takes to cover it up is pretty huge. Even the smartest of people can't imagine in advance every possible twist and turn that their lie/crime will take.

IMO

Agreed. I think it also has to do with the fact that Shayna was the only one who was a threat to her regarding the whole Hemy situation. She was trying to get Shayna off her back, IMO, about Hemy. She thought that if she "opened up" to Shayna, then Shayna wouldn't suspect her of hiding anything. And of course, the fact that she point blank told Shayna she had told the police, when she hadn't!

 

[Softail]

Kathleen B Joyner @KBJoyner

#AndreaSneiderman defense team just walked back into courtroom. We are all on alert. #meerkats


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11Alive News ✔ @11AliveNews

In walks the #AndreaSneiderman defense team

 

[Softail]

11Alive News ✔ @11AliveNews

Standing down - #AndreaSneiderman team stepping back out of courtroom -- pretty much smiles and chuckles around...

 

[aa9511]

Kathleen B Joyner @KBJoyner

#AndreaSneiderman defense team just walked back into courtroom. We are all on alert. #meerkats


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11Alive News ✔ @11AliveNews

In walks the #AndreaSneiderman defense team

What? THe commentators on the WAT livestream just said that she tweeted that the defense team is packing up to leave for the day, and they spent 5 minutes discussing what that means? I'm confused....lol!