GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - #10

[Canaille]

I know this is kind of way out, but does anyone else following the horrific Washington DC case see some similarities with this case?
I didn't until I heard Nancy Grace mention last night that a knife was used. As I listened more intently, I picked up on the rich and exclusive neighborhood and the security system that didn't work and no sign of forced entry. I am beginning to wonder if the suspect had been in GA last year trying to perfect his criminal intentions?

Police Chief Cathy Lanier said all four were homicide victims, and at least three of them suffered stab wounds or blunt-force injuries.

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...our-people-in-northwest-washington/ar-BBk1KDX

That thought crossed my mind. Especially when I read that DW was supposedly really good with a knife. He needs a death penalty somewhere, since D.C. doesn't have one.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I know this is kind of way out, but does anyone else following the horrific Washington DC case see some similarities with this case?
I didn't until I heard Nancy Grace mention last night that a knife was used. As I listened more intently, I picked up on the rich and exclusive neighborhood and the security system that didn't work and no sign of forced entry. I am beginning to wonder if the suspect had been in GA last year trying to perfect his criminal intentions?

Police Chief Cathy Lanier said all four were homicide victims, and at least three of them suffered stab wounds or blunt-force injuries.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...own-attackers-murder-arson.html#ixzz3am9As9K6
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...our-people-in-northwest-washington/ar-BBk1KDX

another horrible crime, as i see it, this guy didnt' do as neat or evasive a job that was done the D's, if he practiced with them, he left too many clues behind on this one, but it does make you think of the way the D's case may have played out as well. I do hope they catch his sick sorry ars

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

If we are to believe statements made by law enforcement thus far, here are a few highlights:

1) Whoever did this, isn't from around here.
2) The Dermonds 'knew' their killer(s).
3) whoever did it, was at least familiar with the area.
4) Two weeks prior, the security system within the home showed some sort of 'anomaly' or tampering. In that time frame, family was visiting (daughter and at least the eldest son, possibly all three children and the husband)

5) if I remember correctly, the FBI mentioned that the killer may have been seen in a canoe prior to the murders
6) Sills says the killer likes guns and knives.
7) a family member was questioned with a firmer tone and referred to as a 'she'.
8) Sills said he doesn't believe the 'immediate' family members are involved.

Hmm, I dont' recall a canoe comment by the FBI

So far, it sounds like someone who owns a vacation home nearby

canoe
aint from around here
yet familiar with area
dermonds knew or knew OF them
guns and knives common on lake property


was logging on to comment and just say that, that they came and went by waterway (well if they dont' own a vaca home nearby and have access to GW/RP)

Reason being, there aren't that many crimes or robberies/thefts etc, on the lake, years and years ago, kids used to break in some and have a little party or sex

But its kind of odd there aren't alot of thefts really, being that so many are vaca homes and no one is there half the time, or more, in many of them, it is not crime free however, but considering the residents of most, its remarkable there isn't more crime, we've known people on the LS side for many years who've lived or owned property there

I think would travel by road to steal something , it's too much trouble to load and unload your boat, tie a boat up or have someone stand there and hold it while you do the job, plus night time on the water, little more difficult to navigate.................................. though not hard esp if you DO know the area

It's really dark on the lake at night and would be so easy to be unnoticed at night, yet I dont' know and dont have the statistics, but I do not believe that much crime happens that way on LS, so esp RP/GW given the security system or not, working or not, if they aren't from that area, by boat they'd have to travel to get in, we do know they left by boat

On the other hand, see the first part of my post, (if they were vaca owners, they had easy access to GW and would know about the security system's history of never working properly--as someone posted early on)

Hubby mentioned that the perp/s could have slipped in while they were all at church Easter Sunday and tampered with the personal security system

Come to think of it, do we know if the daughter had a secret admirer, turned anyone down in the past from the GW area? Someone mentioned something in regards to affairs or jilted lovers, something to that affect

Interesting she was in town that week of the tampered alarm system at the D's home

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

That's what I was thinking too.

and I know it's like beating a dead horse, but I'm still confused as to why it has NEVER been mentioned in any article anywhere that the Dermonds lived in Paradise Valley, Az. I have posted links to house deeds and even yearbooks. They 100% lived there, yet it is never mentioned. And the clock company had no offices there?

You know, recently searching them on ancestry and other places, I do recall seeing they lived in another state, didn't remember it was AZ, what year was that? Was he working for the wesclox then? I did see the NJ/NY area for wesclox so yeah, why AZ

I never did find anything showing his time in the military tho it was in his obit, was just curious

I was also trying to figure out who owned the WesClox co, did find they were bought out a time or tow and merged once I think, he was an exec with them right?

I still am trying to understand why a 60-70 yr old would get invovled in that many fast foods franchises........ unless he wasn't that involved, just funding it mostly, maybe his sons/daughter handled it mostly IDK, articles did say he did it for his children or some such statement

Just thoughts in my head

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

That's what I was thinking too.

and I know it's like beating a dead horse, but I'm still confused as to why it has NEVER been mentioned in any article anywhere that the Dermonds lived in Paradise Valley, Az. I have posted links to house deeds and even yearbooks. They 100% lived there, yet it is never mentioned. And the clock company had no offices there?

from ancestry.com
Southbury, Roxbury, Washington, Woodbury 1980 D
Keith Dermond
Russell J and Shirley
city directory

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

from ancestry.com
Southbury, Roxbury, Washington, Woodbury 1980 D
Keith Dermond
Russell J and Shirley
city directory

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1
SCHOOLS, DIRECTORIES & CHURCH HISTORIES
NAME: Russell J Dermond
BIRTH: 6 Jun 1925
RESIDENCE: 1990 - Scottsdale, AZ

thats his bdate

 

[Backwoods]

Hmm, I dont' recall a canoe comment by the FBI

So far, it sounds like someone who owns a vacation home nearby

canoe
aint from around here
yet familiar with area
dermonds knew or knew OF them
guns and knives common on lake property


was logging on to comment and just say that, that they came and went by waterway (well if they dont' own a vaca home nearby and have access to GW/RP)

Reason being, there aren't that many crimes or robberies/thefts etc, on the lake, years and years ago, kids used to break in some and have a little party or sex

But its kind of odd there aren't alot of thefts really, being that so many are vaca homes and no one is there half the time, or more, in many of them, it is not crime free however, but considering the residents of most, its remarkable there isn't more crime, we've known people on the LS side for many years who've lived or owned property there

I think would travel by road to steal something , it's too much trouble to load and unload your boat, tie a boat up or have someone stand there and hold it while you do the job, plus night time on the water, little more difficult to navigate.................................. though not hard esp if you DO know the area

It's really dark on the lake at night and would be so easy to be unnoticed at night, yet I dont' know and dont have the statistics, but I do not believe that much crime happens that way on LS, so esp RP/GW given the security system or not, working or not, if they aren't from that area, by boat they'd have to travel to get in, we do know they left by boat

On the other hand, see the first part of my post, (if they were vaca owners, they had easy access to GW and would know about the security system's history of never working properly--as someone posted early on)

Hubby mentioned that the perp/s could have slipped in while they were all at church Easter Sunday and tampered with the personal security system

Come to think of it, do we know if the daughter had a secret admirer, turned anyone down in the past from the GW area? Someone mentioned something in regards to affairs or jilted lovers, something to that affect

Interesting she was in town that week of the tampered alarm system at the D's home

I'm with you -- I don't recall anything about a canoe, at all. Anybody point the way to a source?

But on to the part of your post I bolded -- yeah, I like this thinking. It fits. Also, was wondering -- do lake vacation-home owners ever rent them out...kind of like a timeshare? Because if someone WAS stalking the Dermonds specifically, what a cover -- rent a nearby home.

I'm not sure I agree that the killer(s) HAD to come or go by boat. One reason: I still wonder if Shirley was transported alive to another location -- or even taken from another location -- and that could have been done by vehicle. For that matter, same with Russell. They even could have been carjacked in their own vehicle by a killer who was careful not to leave evidence in the vehicle. (Though with Russell dressed as he was, I doubt this was true, for him.)

I do think that a boat was involved in concealing Shirley's body, but that boat may have never been at the Dermonds' dock, if she was taken (from home or elsewhere, by vehicle) somewhere else and killed there.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

I'm with you -- I don't recall anything about a canoe, at all. Anybody point the way to a source?

But on to the part of your post I bolded -- yeah, I like this thinking. It fits. Also, was wondering -- do lake vacation-home owners ever rent them out...kind of like a timeshare? Because if someone WAS stalking the Dermonds specifically, what a cover -- rent a nearby home.

I'm not sure I agree that the killer(s) HAD to come or go by boat. One reason: I still wonder if Shirley was transported alive to another location -- or even taken from another location -- and that could have been done by vehicle. For that matter, same with Russell. They even could have been carjacked in their own vehicle by a killer who was careful not to leave evidence in the vehicle. (Though with Russell dressed as he was, I doubt this was true, for him.)

I do think that a boat was involved in concealing Shirley's body, but that boat may have never been at the Dermonds' dock, if she was taken (from home or elsewhere, by vehicle) somewhere else and killed there.

Yes they do backwoods, vacation rentals like at the beach or mountains etc. 3 day mimimum stay typically and usually saturday to saturday, that would be a great cover up

If I said HAD, I was implying would be easiest, since they obviously LEFT by boat, or someone did, quite possible they came by boat as well, is what I was thinking

But then I contradicted that also by reading the earlier post about canoe etc, thinking they could be living in GW/RP and that seems very likely given that information and now especially knowing they could be vacation home owners or renters


Yes I had mentioned that possibility earlier as well, carjacking situation, easy to come right through the gates back then, sticker or whatever on car, porbably no checkpoint to ID anyone

I have been at my sisters place off and on for a month, helping with some remodel projects, going outside at night is scary, it is darker than black, even with dock lights in the distance, no one lives permanently nearby except one next door, who has all his lights off and never comes outside much, works nights sometimes, boaters at night have been more frequent due to upcoming holiday, you cannot hear them, you can see them if they have their running lights on, but if they were sneaking up to a dock, lights off, NO ONE would know, NO ONE. We owned about 60 acres years ago in south ga, our neighbors the same, we got to chatting adn before we knew it, night fall was upon us, we could not even SEE each others FACES, imagine how dark that is, the reason I stated it is quite possible they came by boat as well as by land, less detected by boat, no chance of anyone id'ing you later


I am not set on any one idea, but this became a real reality for me this week, I agree with you and several scenarios are possible, like I said this became a stunning reality more so than I've ever thought before

DO we know what the moon cycle was that weekend? If no moon, yes, it would be EXCEPTIONALLY dark!

 

[Foxfire]

Yes they do backwoods, vacation rentals like at the beach or mountains etc. 3 day mimimum stay typically and usually saturday to saturday, that would be a great cover up

If I said HAD, I was implying would be easiest, since they obviously LEFT by boat, or someone did, quite possible they came by boat as well, is what I was thinking

But then I contradicted that also by reading the earlier post about canoe etc, thinking they could be living in GW/RP and that seems very likely given that information and now especially knowing they could be vacation home owners or renters


Yes I had mentioned that possibility earlier as well, carjacking situation, easy to come right through the gates back then, sticker or whatever on car, porbably no checkpoint to ID anyone

I have been at my sisters place off and on for a month, helping with some remodel projects, going outside at night is scary, it is darker than black, even with dock lights in the distance, no one lives permanently nearby except one next door, who has all his lights off and never comes outside much, works nights sometimes, boaters at night have been more frequent due to upcoming holiday, you cannot hear them, you can see them if they have their running lights on, but if they were sneaking up to a dock, lights off, NO ONE would know, NO ONE. We owned about 60 acres years ago in south ga, our neighbors the same, we got to chatting adn before we knew it, night fall was upon us, we could not even SEE each others FACES, imagine how dark that is, the reason I stated it is quite possible they came by boat as well as by land, less detected by boat, no chance of anyone id'ing you later


I am not set on any one idea, but this became a real reality for me this week, I agree with you and several scenarios are possible, like I said this became a stunning reality more so than I've ever thought before

DO we know what the moon cycle was that weekend? If no moon, yes, it would be EXCEPTIONALLY dark!

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Dancinunderthemoon, the moon phase on May 2/2014 was a Waxing Crescent Moon, which not only provides the cloak of darkness, but is a very significant indicator when combined with the beheading, concerning those likely responsible for the Dermond murders, imo... Factor in the Kentucky Derby party/s <increased visitor traffic in RP/GW>, secluded lakeside lot with an adjacent vacant wooded lot, nonoperating guard house security cameras, neighbor out of the country, and the Dermonds not having a dog, etc. Seems, the elderly Dermonds were the perfect unsuspecting potentially targeted victims for an extremely well planned, meticulously executed, and unsolved barbaric murder/s..


May 2, 2014 - Moon phase - 2 May 2014 - Waxing Crescent Moon
http://lunaf.com/lunar-calendar/2014/05/02/

Photos of Waxing Crescent Moon
https://www.google.com/search?q=pho...niv&sa=X&ei=ml9fVejuCcKcsAXihIBA&ved=0CB0QsAQ

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

<BBM for Focus>

Dancinunderthemoon, the moon phase on May 2/2014 was a Waxing Crescent Moon, which not only provides the cloak of darkness, but is a very significant indicator when combined with the beheading, concerning those likely responsible for the Dermond murders, imo... Factor in the Kentucky Derby party/s <increased visitor traffic in RP/GW>, secluded lakeside lot with an adjacent vacant wooded lot, nonoperating guard house security cameras, neighbor out of the country, and the Dermonds not having a dog, etc. Seems, the elderly Dermonds were the perfect unsuspecting potentially targeted victims for an extremely well planned, meticulously executed, and unsolved barbaric murder/s..


May 2, 2014 - Moon phase - 2 May 2014 - Waxing Crescent Moon
http://lunaf.com/lunar-calendar/2014/05/02/

Photos of Waxing Crescent Moon
https://www.google.com/search?q=pho...niv&sa=X&ei=ml9fVejuCcKcsAXihIBA&ved=0CB0QsAQ

oh my, it was indeeeed DARK that night then!

 

[Foxfire]

Bumping this WSB TV2, article/video by Richard Elliot, from over a year ago:

May 15, 2014
Residents question decision not to call GBI for help in Putnam Co. beheading
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/resident-question-decision-not-call-gbi-help-putna/nfxjF/

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PUTNAM COUNTY, Ga. &#8212; Residents in the gated community where an elderly man was beheaded say they&#8217;re surprised their sheriff hasn&#8217;t called the state for help.

Russell Dermond, 88, was found dead last week in his Reynold&#8217;s Plantation home and investigators believe his wife, Shirley Dermond, was kidnapped.

Bill McClain lives in the same neighborhood in Putnam County.

&#8220;I&#8217;m just surprised. I would think they&#8217;d be calling in all the help they could possibly get,&#8221; McClain said.

McClain said he thought the GBI had already been called in.

Sheriff Sills said his department has not found many clues to the crime or to Shirley Dermond&#8217;s whereabouts, but he said he is not prepared to call the GBI for help, instead relying on his own 40 years in law enforcement.

&#8220;If you can tell me something the GBI knows how to do that I don&#8217;t know how to do then I will be glad and call them,&#8221; Sills said.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Yes they do backwoods, vacation rentals like at the beach or mountains etc. 3 day mimimum stay typically and usually saturday to saturday, that would be a great cover up

If I said HAD, I was implying would be easiest, since they obviously LEFT by boat, or someone did, quite possible they came by boat as well, is what I was thinking

But then I contradicted that also by reading the earlier post about canoe etc, thinking they could be living in GW/RP and that seems very likely given that information and now especially knowing they could be vacation home owners or renters


Yes I had mentioned that possibility earlier as well, carjacking situation, easy to come right through the gates back then, sticker or whatever on car, porbably no checkpoint to ID anyone

I have been at my sisters place off and on for a month, helping with some remodel projects, going outside at night is scary, it is darker than black, even with dock lights in the distance, no one lives permanently nearby except one next door, who has all his lights off and never comes outside much, works nights sometimes, boaters at night have been more frequent due to upcoming holiday, you cannot hear them, you can see them if they have their running lights on, but if they were sneaking up to a dock, lights off, NO ONE would know, NO ONE. We owned about 60 acres years ago in south ga, our neighbors the same, we got to chatting adn before we knew it, night fall was upon us, we could not even SEE each others FACES, imagine how dark that is, the reason I stated it is quite possible they came by boat as well as by land, less detected by boat, no chance of anyone id'ing you later


I am not set on any one idea, but this became a real reality for me this week, I agree with you and several scenarios are possible, like I said this became a stunning reality more so than I've ever thought before

DO we know what the moon cycle was that weekend? If no moon, yes, it would be EXCEPTIONALLY dark!

Second thought, I dont' think carjacking, yesterday thoughts in my head were that if they came in thru the gates after carjacking her or him or both, the perp/s would have to call someone with a boat to come get them, of course the guy on the lawn....................but I thinnk too much time would be wasted and risk getting caught but who the hell knows, the whole thing is ludicrous

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Bumping this WSB TV2, article/video by Richard Elliot, from over a year ago:

May 15, 2014
Residents question decision not to call GBI for help in Putnam Co. beheading
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/resident-question-decision-not-call-gbi-help-putna/nfxjF/

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PUTNAM COUNTY, Ga. &#8212; Residents in the gated community where an elderly man was beheaded say they&#8217;re surprised their sheriff hasn&#8217;t called the state for help.

Russell Dermond, 88, was found dead last week in his Reynold&#8217;s Plantation home and investigators believe his wife, Shirley Dermond, was kidnapped.

Bill McClain lives in the same neighborhood in Putnam County.

&#8220;I&#8217;m just surprised. I would think they&#8217;d be calling in all the help they could possibly get,&#8221; McClain said.

McClain said he thought the GBI had already been called in.

Sheriff Sills said his department has not found many clues to the crime or to Shirley Dermond&#8217;s whereabouts, but he said he is not prepared to call the GBI for help, instead relying on his own 40 years in law enforcement.

&#8220;If you can tell me something the GBI knows how to do that I don&#8217;t know how to do then I will be glad and call them,&#8221; Sills said.

is it a matter of "KNOWING something more" or just that "the more the merrier", "2 heads better than one", different or bigger database???

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Both of those examples involve rape/murder victims, no doubt the rape played a large part in providing DNA. There is no reason to suspect that either of the Dermonds were raped. In fact there IS reason to suspect that no DNA was recovered on the bodies.

In reality (not the movies or fictional books) DNA is rarely found. If this killer gets caught it will probably be because he told someone.

Future advances in DNA matching mean nothing if no DNA is recovered to begin with.

This article highlights a study which concluded that DNA was only found in about 4.5% of murder scenes. http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/11/07/the_case_against_evidence/?page=1

And another article states the same thing, DNA rarely plays a part in cold cases:

SD was fully clothed

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Shirley and Russell Dermond

Missing wife of decapitated Georgia man found dead in lake

GA GA - Shirley Dermond, 87, Putnam County **Media Links***NO DISCUSSION*** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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why did they want to wait? How sure were the D's children that they knew their mother was dead too? That they may be holding 2 funerals but wait and have them together? I'm not sure how logical I would have handled such a situation. With kidnap victims, many times they NEVER turn up. Many times it's years. It was sheer luck that she was even discovered in the 2 weeks after she went missing. How did they know to wait so to have 2 funerals in 1

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

http://www.atlantamagazine.com/grea...-county-sheriff-howard-sills-chases-a-killer/

"Sills stepped out of the Suburban ....................He went in the house through the kitchen door, the same door the neighbor entered. Then he headed for an open door that led to a cramped two-car garage. The garage was dimly lit, but the white walls helped Sills see. On the floor between a Lincoln Town Car and a Lexus SUV was a man&#8217;s body on its back. The man&#8217;s age was hard to guess&#8212;because the body had no head.

Sills was struck by the pristine condition of the house. A horror scene it was not. Aside from the headless body in the garage, and save for an unmade bed and an off-kilter lampshade in the living room, it was showroom-perfect. The lampshade caught Sills&#8217;s eye only because everything else was so neat. What blood there was&#8212;a considerable amount&#8212;had pooled and dried near the body.
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*Sills entered thru the kitchen door THEN HEADED FOR AN OPEN DOOR THAT LED TO THE GARAGE the same door the neighbor entered, suggests garage door closed
and neighbor entered at the back kitchen door off deck and screened porch
*Front door was unlocked (reported )Shirley was dressed, did she answer the front door? Surprised her, got him out of bed or he heard commotion
Back kitchen door and front door, both were unlocked apparently, is the back kitchen door, the door they left by with SD in tow after entering at front?
Did the lawn man seen saturday use the back door also to go act as lookout?
*off kilter lampshade suggests the perps did enter the house if only briefly
*obviously since they led or put RD in the garage
*SS suggested in another article, i dont' have link readily, that he thought RD was shot, where is the gunshot theory coming from?
*one article mentioned little blood splatter
this one mentions considerable amount of blood suggests it wasn't long after he died the beheading occurred?
*Man on lawn.....Saturday IIRC, BUT WHAT TIME OF DAY?
*Is description and other info being withheld to protect the witnesses? These had to be people across the cover from them, IIRC, no other houses were visible because of treed emply lots beside them

So how did the perps gain entry to GW and get inside the home?
I do not believe the carjacking theory at this time, no ready getaway boat
I do not beleieve drugs, no mess in house
I do not believe some crazed kid, this was too thought out and clean
I do not believe ex lover or jilted lover of any family members, too sinister and thought out IMO
I DO THINK, whoever did this was experienced with killing, I DO NOT believe necessarily it was a hunter or even anyone familiar with the lake

People drag boats to all over the place, just like trailered horses, to go fishing and trail rides, camping out, fishing all night, people take portable electric fencing for their horses and they camp out next to them so pulling a boat to a location you wish to fish is nothing difficult or suspicious especially if you compare the trouble to hauling large beasts around, portable fencing, camping gear etc, and they dont' look suspicious either when you are with the same kind of people doing the same thing you are

Boaters use depth finders and GPS coordinates, once you put it in the system, it takes you right where you want to go and right back out the way you came, people that boat or fish do this all the time, so yes they were familiar with or hired someone familiar with boating atleast and were probably from Georgia too come to think of it, I know people travel in or out of state if they are heavy fishermen

I'm still leaning strongly towards the perps entered by boat and left by boat, no one saw a boat, but just because you dont' see DNR ON THE LAKE doesnt' mean they haven't passed by, in addition to the above in this regard

Still trying to comprehend why the guy was on the lawn and a witness saw him but no boat or did they just not notice one? IF one had been parked nearer the cover beside the green portable boat lift, it may not have been readily visible by neighbor eyewitness

probably not important, but Just thought I'd mention, the one article above mentioned a covered boat dock...............the dock wasn't covered, there is the portable lift only IIRC, but it doesnt' cover the dock so having said that, other reporting is probably scewed or mistaken, as well


This is too long, have more ideas in my head, I'll post later

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

why did they want to wait? How sure were the D's children that they knew their mother was dead too? That they may be holding 2 funerals but wait and have them together? I'm not sure how logical I would have handled such a situation. With kidnap victims, many times they NEVER turn up. Many times it's years. It was sheer luck that she was even discovered in the 2 weeks after she went missing. How did they know to wait so to have 2 funerals in 1

This was in regards to an article or quote that the children wished to wait before having hteir father's funeral

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

http://www.macon.com/2015/05/02/3726718_new-details-as-mystery-reigns.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy[/url]

right?! THEY left town awfully quick and I want to find what day the church or community had the first vigil the children didnt' attend.

May 6-finding was reported, May 7, wednesday, chidlren arrive, was vigil on saturday? so they chidlren left within 2 days?

I would have been freaked out of course, but truly afriad to be around if I thought it was someone I knew who was sending a message,

SO many thoughts in my head tonight!

 

[Thyme]

It looks to me as though this was either a kidnapping for a ransom that went terribly wrong or someone was going to inherit a large sum of money and wanted/needed it sooner rather than later. If the latter it would be in their best interests to make it look like a psycho committed this horrific crime. However, a hired gun is another possibility. The beheading may have been to remove evidence of a gunshot. JMO

I believe I have read too many murder mysteries.

 

[Foxfire]

Imo, the Dermond's family and friends were/are in dire fear for their personal safety.. Why?
'Were the weird phone calls the family received after the Dermond murders an important clue as to the motive in this case'? 'Wish we knew more about the specific messages received.''Were they threatening in nature'? Were the weird messages deja vu?

Since the Dermonds were religous about locking their doors and there were no signs of forced entry. Imo, the perp/s in the Dermond murders utilized a ruse to gain entrance into their home. Likely an authority figure or someone emulating one, since the Dermonds let their guard down and allowed the perps in, imo... It only takes a second to activate the panic button on the home security system...

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Decapitation mystery: Security camera wasn't on, son tells AJC
By Christian Boone
THE ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION
Friday, May 16, 2014 11:00 AM
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/c...n-mystery-security-camera-wasnt-son-tells-ajc

Keith Dermond has no idea why anyone would kill his father and presumably abduct his mother.
It&#8217;s been nine days since 88-year-old Russell Dermond&#8217;s decapitated body was found and his wife reported missing. Though the search for 87-year-old Shirley Dermond continues, investigators doubt she&#8217;ll be found alive.

&#8220;They had a security system. And they always kept their doors locked,&#8221; Dermond said. &#8220;They were religious about that.&#8221;

Dermond also revealed that cameras manning the gates at Reynolds Plantation weren&#8217;t functioning at the time.

&#8220;I&#8217;m still interviewing friends&#8221; of the couple, Sills told The AJC. Many of them are afraid to talk. &#8220;There&#8217;s a lot of fear.&#8221;
The Dermonds&#8217; children aren&#8217;t immune to those fears.

&#8220;We&#8217;ve got a little bit of concern,&#8221; Keith Dermond said. &#8220;We&#8217;ve gotten a few weird phone calls.&#8221;
None of them have provided any information about who killed their father and took his mother.

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