GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 5

[Carolinapeach]

welll, I guess Carolinapeach won't EVER get back up to the lake then!!:scared::scared: anad maybe not me either, was about to let go my fears, even tho I'm not in that area, hell, who knows where he/they'll go, there's enough confusion in this case it SEEMS that they just may throw in another crazy crazy crazy......soemthing! but I AM in what's considered Eatonton too though !!

Nope. I won't be going alone until Sills or somebody convinces me we're safe. Guess I should have signed up as CarolinaChicken. Lol.

 

[tomkat]

The Nuwaubian Nation or Nuwaubian movement is a religious organization founded and led by Dwight York.

York began founding Black Muslim groups in New York in 1967, and has changed his teachings and the names of his groups many times. In the late 1980s, he abandoned the Muslim theology of his movement in favor of Ancient Egypt and extraterrestrial themes, in 1993 leaving Brooklyn for Eatonton, Putnam County, Georgia, where he built an ancient Egypt-themed compound called Tama-Re.[1]

By 2000, the "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors" had some 500 adherents,[2] and drew as many as 5,000 visitors attending "Savior's Day" (York's birthday). Adherence declined steeply after York was sentenced to 135 years in federal prison in April 2004, and the Tama-Re compound was sold under government forfeiture and demolished in 2005.

The movement was highly eclectic and entirely dependent on York's ever-changing pronouncements, described as "an extra-large dose of Egyptian schlock, served with a side dish of intergalactic mumbo jumbo" by Bill Osinski, author of a 2007 book on York and his arrest and eventual conviction. York's writings and pronouncements over the years combined ideas from a wide range of UFO religion, New Age, esotericism and occultism, pseudoscience, besides basic Afrocentrism and Black supremacism.[3]

The term "Nuwaubu" is found in "The Holy Tablets", a 1700-page document published by York in 1996, as the term for "the way of life" of "supreme beings".[4] Nuwaubian teachings are sometimes also referred to as Nuwaubu/Nuwaupu, Wu-Nuwaubu, "Right Knowledge", "Sound Right Reasoning", "Overstanding", "Blackosophy" or "Factology".[citation needed] The term "Nuwaubianism" has also been used in some publications.[dubious – discuss] It is classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[5][6][7][


Nuwaubian Nation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FREAKY!!

 

[CHERIE.T]

Sounds pretty dayum good to me! After I read the article, I had the same thoughts - someone/s has a beef with Sills. I made my mind stop there though.
The cat and mouse game, everything you posted sounds like what is happening.

Do you have thoughts on what type of person would be the next potential victim/s? elderly? nice neighborhood? maybe more than two victims?

This is really scary to think about.

After flip floppin more than a fish outta water I say the murders were well planned, maybe even months in advance. Imoo the D's were and are the only targets.
I also think the head is very near the home.

 

[tomkat]

Nope. I won't be going alone until Sills or somebody convinces me we're safe. Guess I should have signed up as CarolinaChicken. Lol.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

No, I dont' think you are a chicken, bootsctr knows her chickens, don't ya ? LOL

Well, we'd planned to go a few days next week, but good grief, now I don't know, scaring myself haha:scared:

You are just being safe, I don't blame you at all

But I ain't packin pepper, I'm now packin pistols ! LOL

 

[Suthrnqt]

I think someone on WS did something like that on another case a few years back and got into a world sheeeite

Tom Calabrese was a WSer?? j/k
illowfight:

 

[CHERIE.T]

well, isnt' this interesting, mexican based drug ring busted in gwinnett county ga

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/mexico-based-drug-ring-busted-gwinnett-county/nf9Md/

.....used in a multi-million dollar, Mexico-based drug ring.

multi-million dollar

 

[Bootsctr]

The Nuwaubian Nation or Nuwaubian movement is a religious organization founded and led by Dwight York.

York began founding Black Muslim groups in New York in 1967, and has changed his teachings and the names of his groups many times. In the late 1980s, he abandoned the Muslim theology of his movement in favor of Ancient Egypt and extraterrestrial themes, in 1993 leaving Brooklyn for Eatonton, Putnam County, Georgia, where he built an ancient Egypt-themed compound called Tama-Re.[1]

By 2000, the "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors" had some 500 adherents,[2] and drew as many as 5,000 visitors attending "Savior's Day" (York's birthday). Adherence declined steeply after York was sentenced to 135 years in federal prison in April 2004, and the Tama-Re compound was sold under government forfeiture and demolished in 2005.

The movement was highly eclectic and entirely dependent on York's ever-changing pronouncements, described as "an extra-large dose of Egyptian schlock, served with a side dish of intergalactic mumbo jumbo" by Bill Osinski, author of a 2007 book on York and his arrest and eventual conviction. York's writings and pronouncements over the years combined ideas from a wide range of UFO religion, New Age, esotericism and occultism, pseudoscience, besides basic Afrocentrism and Black supremacism.[3]

The term "Nuwaubu" is found in "The Holy Tablets", a 1700-page document published by York in 1996, as the term for "the way of life" of "supreme beings".[4] Nuwaubian teachings are sometimes also referred to as Nuwaubu/Nuwaupu, Wu-Nuwaubu, "Right Knowledge", "Sound Right Reasoning", "Overstanding", "Blackosophy" or "Factology".[citation needed] The term "Nuwaubianism" has also been used in some publications.[dubious – discuss] It is classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[5][6][7][


Nuwaubian Nation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FREAKY!!

Uhhh... no shiite!! And this cult was broken up by Sheriff Sills in your neck of the woods? :scared: No wonder the family left so quickly. This is weird! I didn't read the article in depth, but what I did read is freaky and does any where know where these cult members moved? I have to read that article again.

 

[Bootsctr]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

No, I dont' think you are a chicken, bootsctr knows her chickens, don't ya ? LOL

Well, we'd planned to go a few days next week, but good grief, now I don't know, scaring myself haha:scared:

You are just being safe, I don't blame you at all

But I ain't packin pepper, I'm now packin pistols ! LOL

Absolutely! :chicken: Does anybody know if there were family pets being killed within GW/RP or going missing?

I think everyone will be safe. Just a goofy theory I came up with. . . Everyone posts such good information it's hard for the mind not to wander.

 

[Happyshoes]

Trying to think outside the box, too - but I can't make myself lean toward a really dedicated plan at work here. I can't help but think that someone really, really didn't like Mr. D. It was a fisherman who lived there, knows his way around the lake and the restaurants, and would probably fit right in. He didn't want to kill Mrs. D but had no way around it. Maybe he did take the head thinking it would tell about the weapon, but I kind of think he wanted to bury Mrs. D and in the water was the best he could do. If it turns out to be planned, a murder-for-hire, or something that diabolical, I will be surprised.

 

[Foxfire]

I think someone on WS did something like that on another case a few years back and got into a world sheeeite

Surely you're kidding tomkat...A ws member?

 

[tomkat]

Uhhh... no shiite!! And this cult was broken up by Sheriff Sills in your neck of the woods? :scared: No wonder the family left so quickly. This is weird! I didn't read the article in depth, but what I did read is freaky and does any where know where these cult members moved? I have to read that article again.

I have to read further myself, and NO, I wonder where they all are!

 

[osu]

Absolutely! :chicken: Does anybody know if there were family pets being killed within GW/RP or going missing?

I think everyone will be safe. Just a goofy theory I came up with. . . Everyone posts such good information it's hard for the mind not to wander.

A few days ago I did some keyword searches on the reynolds plantation blog for any missing pets or dead animals found at RP.
There was nothing posted there except for one timid, little dachshund who got lost in the neighborhood and was found safe later that same day.

 

[tomkat]

Surely you're kidding tomkat...A ws member?

nothing like the HH tape mystery, I dont' recall the details but it was pretty serious enough IIRC

 

[MotherOcean]

Great posts everyone! Thanks for the link about Sills. What if . . . somebody has a beef with Sills. Somebody maybe from the cult he broke up. Or maybe Sills ticked somebody off at GW. Somebody from GW went to Sills complaining about cars being broken into and people speeding within the community and Sills makes the comment about that's y'all's business, y'all handle it. You pay dues for security and your security should be doing their job. So this person has it in for Sills (and LE in general assuming) and since Sills thinks he so smart maybe he'll just give him a case that he can't solve and show him who is boss. So this perp picks a couple at random - well sort of at random - the Dermonds' location is prime as far as secluded within the community. He kills Mr. Dermond and knowing that without a head, identifying the body is going to take time. . . delay the investigation. . . which is going to drive Sills batty. Said perp kills Mrs. D and takes her body leaving the Sheriff to wonder if Mrs. D is still alive, or if Mrs. D could be the perp herself. Again this is wasting the Sheriff's precious time in locating Mrs. D. The house is immaculate, wiped clean. No fingerprints. No DNA. Nothing, nada. Means everybody in the area is a suspect - lot of people to question and have them fill out the questionaire. It's been several weeks. Perp decides it is time to taunt Sills a bit. Sends an innocent somebody into the Huddle House to ask for the surveillance tapes. This infuriates Sills. He still has no clue as to who did this and it won't be long before the perp chooses another victim/victims to kill and again flaunt his excellent predatory and deadly skills. He thinks he smarter than Sills, he thinks and he is quite enjoying this game of cat and mouse. The clock is ticking. . . tick. . . tock. .. tick. . . tock.

Okay that's my out of the box. How's that sound?

The same scenario has occurred to me more than once. Every time I hear Sills talk and see his face I wonder just how personal is this really and to whom is it so personal. I think your theory is as good as any other. It would not shock me to find out this is close to the truth. If this is true, Sills must know it.

 

[Bootsctr]

After flip floppin more than a fish outta water I say the murders were well planned, maybe even months in advance. Imoo the D's were and are the only targets.
I also think the head is very near the home.

Do tell. Buried, in the water or in a home in GW?

 

[charminglane]

The Nuwaubian Nation or Nuwaubian movement is a religious organization founded and led by Dwight York.

York began founding Black Muslim groups in New York in 1967, and has changed his teachings and the names of his groups many times. In the late 1980s, he abandoned the Muslim theology of his movement in favor of Ancient Egypt and extraterrestrial themes, in 1993 leaving Brooklyn for Eatonton, Putnam County, Georgia, where he built an ancient Egypt-themed compound called Tama-Re.[1]

By 2000, the "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors" had some 500 adherents,[2] and drew as many as 5,000 visitors attending "Savior's Day" (York's birthday). Adherence declined steeply after York was sentenced to 135 years in federal prison in April 2004, and the Tama-Re compound was sold under government forfeiture and demolished in 2005.

The movement was highly eclectic and entirely dependent on York's ever-changing pronouncements, described as "an extra-large dose of Egyptian schlock, served with a side dish of intergalactic mumbo jumbo" by Bill Osinski, author of a 2007 book on York and his arrest and eventual conviction. York's writings and pronouncements over the years combined ideas from a wide range of UFO religion, New Age, esotericism and occultism, pseudoscience, besides basic Afrocentrism and Black supremacism.[3]

The term "Nuwaubu" is found in "The Holy Tablets", a 1700-page document published by York in 1996, as the term for "the way of life" of "supreme beings".[4] Nuwaubian teachings are sometimes also referred to as Nuwaubu/Nuwaupu, Wu-Nuwaubu, "Right Knowledge", "Sound Right Reasoning", "Overstanding", "Blackosophy" or "Factology".[citation needed] The term "Nuwaubianism" has also been used in some publications.[dubious – discuss] It is classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[5][6][7][


Nuwaubian Nation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FREAKY!!

I had read that article about an hour ago. Curious.
I wonder if Mr. D. was racist? Or came across that way to someone? Taking his head is soooo physically, literally, and to-the-soul hateful.

 

[wildebeest]

Maybe Mrs. D. had an admirer?
Jealous of Mr. D.?

I don't think this was a possibility. :twocents:

IMHO

 

[Bootsctr]

fftobed: Night folks! I'll be sleeping with the covers over my head tonight. ~ Boots xo

 

[Bootsctr]

Maybe Mrs. D. had an admirer?
Jealous of Mr. D.?

I think that is quite possible too. It's just not the kind of admirer you want to attract - the deadly kind.

 

[Happyshoes]

Wanted to say enjoyed everyone's open-mindedness about this case...I just can't imagine this type of thing happening to my parents or anyone's for that matter. They just seem so vulnerable and with their background, finances, family, nothing sticks out. I haven't looked into the cult thing but haven't ruled it out. Hoping for peace soon.