GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 6

[Bootsctr]

Russell Dermond’s body was discovered by neighbors May 6 in the garage of the couple’s Carolyn Drive home in the Great Waters community of Reynolds Plantation. His wife was presumed abducted until her body was found by two fishermen in the waters of Lake Oconee near Wallace Dam May 16.

“Early in the investigation, I received calls from businesses and citizens wanting to contribute to a reward for information in this case,” Sills says in his letter. “At that time I discouraged offering money, as I have found rewards at the onset of an investigation often become counterproductive and hinder the course of an investigation.

“Now we have reached a point in time, some 30 days after these heinous crimes, where I believe a significant monetary reward may well be the thing that will enable us to break this very difficult case.

“For the first time in my 40-year career, I am asking the public for donations for a reward.”

Sills has set up an account with The Peoples Bank’s Lake Oconee Branch but notes that contributions can go to any of the three branches. Out-of-towners can send their donations c/o the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, P.O. Box 3637, Eatonton, GA 31024.

The Dermonds were last seen May 1 – Russell at Publix Super Market in Lake Oconee Village at about 2:30 p.m.; Shirley, at her bridge club meeting at The Plaza Arts Center in Eatonton.

http://www.msgr.com/news/crime/article_0c031440-eb21-11e3-97a4-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm

 

[Bootsctr]

Officials confirm a boat was used in the crime; the couple’s million-dollar-plus property in the exclusive, gated community was accessible by water. Officials also have said they believe the couple was targeted and that the crime was not random.

On May 14, FBI Special Agent Stephen Emmett of the bureau’s Atlanta office, confirmed the FBI was offering “up to $20,000 for information leading to the location of Shirley Wilcox Dermond and/or the arrest of the individual(s) responsible for her disappearance.”

He has not responded to a request for information about whether any payment would be made to xxxxxx, the 49-year-old Putnam County resident who discovered her body along the tree line near the dam.

http://www.msgr.com/news/crime/article_0c031440-eb21-11e3-97a4-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=jqm

 

[Hickory Born]

IMO Sills & the FBI know HOW and WHERE the killer/s did this. They just don't know WHO and WHY.

So, I am going to direct my thoughts as to motive.
1. The Sills knew a secret
2. One of the family members knew a secret
3. Revenge from a past employee
4. Revenge from a current friend, neighbor, acquaintance
5. Burglary of their cash/possessions
6. Drugged up thrill kill
7. Psycho thrill kill
8. Money, paid to kill them
9. Family member in trouble & this was message to family member
10. Killer got the wrong address and wrong people

Please add thought if you wish.

 

[Bootsctr]

IMO Sills & the FBI know HOW and WHERE the killer/s did this. They just don't know WHO and WHY.

So, I am going to direct my thoughts as to motive.
1. The Sills knew a secret
2. One of the family members knew a secret
3. Revenge from a past employee
4. Revenge from a current friend, neighbor, acquaintance
5. Burglary of their cash/possessions
6. Drugged up thrill kill
7. Psycho thrill kill
8. Money, paid to kill them
9. Family member in trouble & this was message to family member
10. Killer got the wrong address and wrong people

Please add thought if you wish.

I don't have any ideas to add Hickory Born. Looks like you've got a pretty good handle of all the thoughts floating about regarding the motive to this horrific crime. Would mafia hit be included in #1?

 

[OTPTarheel]

Folks were laying sod in a new neighborhood yesterday. Everybody had a machete. Machetes are everywhere. Not saying landscaping folks are involved, just machetes and sod are like peaches and cream.


Off topic- suspect arrested in killing those kids yesterday. People reported a reckless driver to police and they found him and car at the Stinky Kroger(not stinky but next to Big Creek water treatment plant). Arrested him on suspended license and then found gun.... Now in jail. Don't think he'll make bond.

Back to topic- and that is what the D case needs. Someone saw something in the days preceding and after... any little thing. Those folks who called 911 yesterday probably did not know there was a double homicide in the area- they called 911 because the crazy driver was CRAZIER than usual in Atlanta. They knew something was wrong. Folks in RP and all over the area need to think about what they saw, where they were and if they remember something, report it.

JMO

 

[Hickory Born]

Adding one, thanks to Bootsctr.

IMO Sills & the FBI know HOW and WHERE the killer/s did this. They just don't know WHO and WHY.

So, I am going to direct my thoughts as to motive.
1. The Sills knew a secret
2. One of the family members knew a secret
3. Revenge from a past employee
4. Revenge from a current friend, neighbor, acquaintance
5. Burglary of their cash/possessions
6. Drugged up thrill kill
7. Psycho thrill kill
8. Money, paid to kill them
9. Family member in trouble & this was message to family member
10. Killer got the wrong address and wrong people
11. Mafia hit

Please add thoughts if you wish.

 

[Foxfire]

what is that? what does VICAP stand for? who is that site intended for?

LadyL, FBI VICAP; is the Violent Criminal Apprehension Program. ViCAP was created in 1985 by the FBI out of Quantico, Virginia. Pierce Brooks was appointed as the first director, primarily because as a homicide detective in Los Angelos, CA, he was the first to propose the idea..

The boardreader VICAP, post was intended only as an FYI and food for thought...

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/homicides-and-sexual-assaults

 

[tomkat]

IMO Sills & the FBI know HOW and WHERE the killer/s did this. They just don't know WHO and WHY.

So, I am going to direct my thoughts as to motive.
1. The Sills knew a secret
2. One of the family members knew a secret
3. Revenge from a past employee
4. Revenge from a current friend, neighbor, acquaintance
5. Burglary of their cash/possessions
6. Drugged up thrill kill
7. Psycho thrill kill
8. Money, paid to kill them
9. Family member in trouble & this was message to family member
10. Killer got the wrong address and wrong people

Please add thought if you wish.

well that really narrowed it down...:facepalm:
If we had more information from LE, we might be able to discern better what happened, that is, if they have more

 

[tomkat]

How does he get them in his home in the first place...and what mode of transportation, car, boat, walking, bicycle, rickshaw?

The reason I am asking this is...Mrs. D had a mobility problem. I don't think she would be walking down the hill to the dock and I can't see her walking a distance on the roads in GW. So how did he get her over to his house.

She had knee surgery at one time, but did she have a mobility problem? Knee replacement usually corrects any mobility problems. Didnt' see that info anywhere, just inquiring

 

[tomkat]

I wish Mr. Dermond were still alive to celebrate his birthday too.

RIP Mr. Dermond.



Thank you for your service to our country. D-Day 1944. You were but 19-years-old when you put your life out there for all of our lives. How is simply thank you enough? You didn't deserve to die like you did. Rest in Peace.

DITTO! Oh what a celebration, almost made it to 90

that's what puzzles me the most, how the heck do you live to 89 almost

Then get beheaded, your wife tethered and dumped in the lake?

I really don't have any theories anymore, tired of the cat and mouse with Sills and media but becuase of the nature of this crime, one thing never leaves me...........someone WANTED them dead, WHO is the question

 

[Foxfire]

Adding one, thanks to Bootsctr.

IMO Sills & the FBI know HOW and WHERE the killer/s did this. They just don't know WHO and WHY.

So, I am going to direct my thoughts as to motive.
1. The Sills knew a secret
2. One of the family members knew a secret
3. Revenge from a past employee
4. Revenge from a current friend, neighbor, acquaintance
5. Burglary of their cash/possessions
6. Drugged up thrill kill
7. Psycho thrill kill
8. Money, paid to kill them
9. Family member in trouble & this was message to family member
10. Killer got the wrong address and wrong people
11. Mafia hit

Please add thoughts if you wish.

12. Newaubian Cult> Retribution against Sheriff Sills/Justice System
13. Sadistic Psychopathic Sexual Predator/Ritual killer> Acting out Fantasy

 

[tomkat]

Well, I won't agree or disagree HERE on the anger issues etc, had a cousin in law that abused his wife, isolated her, the neighborhood knew him well becuase she talked but no one could help her too mcuh, if he foudn out, she'd get it worse, horrible situation but that codger sat on the front row of church every sunday, he was a jolly fellow, if you didn't know by association, you sure wouldn't know by just chatting or just meeting him how mean as the devil he was really

BUT, was talking to someone about RD's license, now he looks like a tough old bird and he didnt' get where he got in life and business by being a softee

Bet he fought like hell if he even had the opportunity if not caught off guard

I think the sheriff has Mr. D's head, too.
Monitoring the area where it was found to see if the perp returns.

The ME report would disclose whether there were syringe marks for drugging, GSR, etc.

I had pondered over Mrs. D. having a "friend" that wanted revenge on Mr. D. - her as well.

What if Mr. D. had anger management issues? If the perp made it appear that Mrs. D. beheaded her husband from being fed up and then killed herself from the guilt, I ask myself -who would know about the anger issues? (MY Father is an upstanding citizen/millionaire/ who will be 80 tomorrow, also. No one would ever guess except those closest to him that he is off the charts verbally abusive and has physically abused my Mother for the past 52 years.)

 

[tomkat]

12. Newaubian Cult> Retribution against Sheriff Sills/Justice System
13. Sadistic Psychopathic Sexual Predator/Ritual killer> Acting out Fantasy

cartel
mafia

 

[tomkat]

I think Sills asked Mark Winnie to film yesterday. Did you notice even the filming had the boat looking like the camera was there when they took it out of storage. I think the entire episode was set up by Sills. I don't think that Mark Winnie just happened to be in Eatonton.

YEAH I noticed that too, I was thinking "does LE keep their boat at the D's???" LOL, surely was set up, parked his boat there getting ready for interview

Something must be up though

 

[tomkat]

(Bold the sentence is mine)
Now we are back to a sharp instrument: & sounds like someone with medical training or knowledge as well as access to orthopedic surgical instruments, perhaps? -something that would cut bone?

The whole thing is awful but was wondering about wire or fishing line

The original article said there was ONE CLEAN CUT maybe a second to cut the bone

Think about that, if a machete or sword goes thru, it wil cut the bone maybe but if not, it won't cut the other side of the neck

if something was circling his neck, it would go thru to the bone all the way around, stop at the bone, then you have to cut the bone

UUUHH, I worry myself that i could think this up LOL

 

[Bootsctr]

Just want to take a moment and thank all of our Italian brothers and sisters whom fought beside us during D-Day 1946 and whom may be joining us here at Websleuths as we seek Justice for the Dermond family.

Welcome to our family! :wagon: :greetings:

On June 6, 1944, more than 160,000 Allied troops landed along a 50-mile stretch of heavily-fortified French coastline, to fight Nazi Germany on the beaches of Normandy, France. Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower called the operation a crusade in which, “we will accept nothing less than full victory.” More than 5,000 Ships and 13,000 aircraft supported the D-Day invasion, and by day’s end, the Allies gained a foot-hold in Continental Europe. The cost in lives on D-Day was high. More than 9,000 Allied Soldiers were killed or wounded, but their sacrifice allowed more than 100,000 Soldiers to begin the slow, hard slog across Europe, to defeat Adolph Hitler’s crack troops.



http://www.army.mil/d-day/

 

[tomkat]

I am not upset with the family. It crossed my mind for a second then I thought...
They have 2 funerals to pay for.
That alone could be $20000.
Probating the will no idea the cost.
For all I know they could be paying a private investigator of their own or 3!
Or maybe they aren't as well off as people think.
They may have some inside knowledge of whatever and be fearful for their own families.
moo

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If there was a family trust wouldnt' all that pass without fanfare to the children, they could use family trust funds to pay the funerals AND the investigator, IF the trust had the money

We really dont' know what they had, stash of cash and stocks one thing, income yet another

 

[tomkat]

BS, I think we are the only ones here ! LOL

Thanks for your Posts acknowledging our soldiers !

 

[atthelake]

BS, I think we are the only ones here ! LOL

Thanks for your Posts acknowledging our soldiers !

:lurk:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Forgive me. I understand that you think he walked up to their house when they were both outside. Are you saying he walked from his house or from docking his boat at their house? What I am having a REAL HARD time with is Mrs. D walking to his house or even their dock and getting in a boat. I have had joint replacement and walking downhill is much harder than you can imagine.

That's true but if you are given no choice and have a gun pointed at you or your husband then you do what you have to do no matter how difficult, imo. I don't think she walked to the dock. I think she was dead and put on the boat at his dock.

I think he walked on the backside of the properties using the trees as blinds and when it had become dusk dark at least to get to their home initially when he either used a false pretense or a threat of a gun to get them to come with him to his own place.

After he had murdered them both and had decapitated Russ, he then loaded Shirley up in his boat along with the torso of Russ at his own dock and idled quietly to Russ' unoccupied dock and pulled Russ' torso (imo wrapped in a tarp at the time) 50 feet and put it in the garage. I think he just unfolded the tarp and slid Russ' torso out just far enough to get him into the garage and he then took the tarp with him and left.

After doing so he then returned to his boat and proceeded to take Shirley and the head out into the deeper water where he fully felt she would never be found.

After that was done then he returned to his own home like nothing had ever happened.

IMO