GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 8

[Bootsctr]

Yes, I would like to know that too and who the lie detector tests were given to. It sounds like the lie detector tests were given to lawn maintenance workers, but who knows???

 

[Bootsctr]

For wildebeest: http://www.msgr.com/touch5/ Let me know WB if that lets you view the articles at The Eatonton Messenger. ~ Boots.

 

[wildebeest]

Thank you, Boots!!! The link worked!

 

[wildebeest]

Thank you, Boots!!! The link worked!

Actually, it took me to the front page of the Eatonton Messenger, but when I clicked on an article, it said I had to pay. Guess I need to pony up the $$$ in order to get the news!:tantrum:

 

[Foxfire]

Welcome back Bootsctr..
Hope everyone had a great Independence Day weekend. Good food, good friends, lots of parades and fireworks, and finished a good book.. Well, most of that is true.. The book was Ungodly...not exactly 'the good book'.. :doh:

 

[wildebeest]

Things are very quiet here, tonight.

Foxfire---you asked how long my sister has been a criminologist. She has been working in the field for about 46 years, and is still going strong.

Does anyone know what happened to our fellow WS, oceanblueeyes??? She had many fascinating ideas, and I hope that she is on vacation or just taking a break. We miss you...

I heard a thought provoking idea tonight: When one feels bored, it is the brain's way of resting.

Hoping the new week brings some good news about progress on this baffling case. :twocents:

IMHO

 

[Foxfire]

With the rich southern antebellum history and stately plantations of Eatonton/Putnam county, GA; whose early lifestyles and cultures spawned writers such as Flannery O'Connor and Joel Harris. One has to ask themselves; did Dwight Malachi York and the NC cult choose the Eatonton destination, or were they drawn there via tragic irony.
To reenact out in reality, the fictional story/ruse where B'rer Bear invited B'rer Rabbit to dinner with the intent of making the rabbit the main course. Yet, B'rer rabbit outwits B'rer Bear in the end..

DM York aka Imam Isa's loyal driver for years told the story of when a male AAC member invited a psychologist friend into the community. She had met York, and later provided her friend with a diagnosis; paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur.. Seems fitting, huh? She was quickly escorted off the property..

Many folks ask, "how were the Dermonds singled out, quietly living out their lives in Reynolds Plantation/GW. "What ties did they have to the NC"? To those folks, I ask, "over three decades prior, what ties did Sharon Tate have to the Manson family/cult murderers"? "What was the motive for their horrific murders"? JMO...

http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=532
PANIC SWEEPS Hollywood CA MOVIE COLONY
Tuesday, August 12th, 1969

<sniped- read more>
Los Angeles, Aug. 12 &#8212; Panic infected the movie colony today in the wake of two gruesomely similar multiple murders as police dropped charges against the only suspect they had in one of them.

Whispers that a psychotic killer was after wealthy resident &#8220;of isolated homes in the Hollywood hills continued after the murder of Miss Tate and the four others was followed a day later by that of a rich supermarket owner and his wife in a plush home 12 miles away.

Tate Murders & CA Victim Impact Statements
A decade after the murders, Sharon Tate's mother, Doris, in response to the growing cult status of the Manson killers and the possibility that any of them might be granted parole, organized a public campaign against what she considered shortcomings in the state's corrections system.

It resulted in amendments to the California criminal law in 1982 allowing crime victims and their families to make victim impact statements during sentencing and at parole hearings.

Doris Tate was the first person to make such an impact statement under the new law when she spoke at the parole hearing of Charles "Tex" Watson, one of her daughter's killers. She believed changes in the law had afforded her daughter dignity that had been denied her before and that she had been able to "help transform Sharon's legacy from murder victim to a symbol of victims' rights"...

 

[wildebeest]

With the rich southern antebellum history and stately plantations of Eatonton/Putnam county, GA; whose early lifestyles and cultures spawned writers such as Flannery O'Connor and Joel Harris. One has to ask themselves; did Dwight Malachi York and the NC cult choose the Eatonton destination, or were they drawn there via irony.
To reenact out in reality, the fictional story/ruse where B'rer Bear invited B'rer Rabbit to dinner with the intent of making the rabbit the main course. Yet, B'rer rabbit outwits B'rer Bear in the end..

DM York aka Imam Isa's loyal driver for years told the story of when a male AAC member invited a psychologist friend into the community. She had met York, and later provided her friend with a diagnosis; paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur.. Seems fitting, huh? She was quickly escorted off the property..

Many folks ask, "how were the Dermonds singled out, quietly living out their lives in Reynolds Plantation/GW. "What ties did they have to the NC"? To those folks, I ask, "over three decades prior, what ties did Sharon Tate have to the Manson family/cult murderers"? "What was the motive for their horrific murders"? JMO...

http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=532
PANIC SWEEPS Hollywood CA MOVIE COLONY
Tuesday, August 12th, 1969

<sniped- read more>
Los Angeles, Aug. 12 &#8212; Panic infected the movie colony today in the wake of two gruesomely similar multiple murders as police dropped charges against the only suspect they had in one of them.

Whispers that a psychotic killer was after wealthy resident &#8220;of isolated homes in the Hollywood hills continued after the murder of Miss Tate and the four others was followed a day later by that of a rich supermarket owner and his wife in a plush home 12 miles away.

Tate Murders & CA Victim Impact Statements
A decade after the murders, Sharon Tate's mother, Doris, in response to the growing cult status of the Manson killers and the possibility that any of them might be granted parole, organized a public campaign against what she considered shortcomings in the state's corrections system.

It resulted in amendments to the California criminal law in 1982 allowing crime victims and their families to make victim impact statements during sentencing and at parole hearings.

Doris Tate was the first person to make such an impact statement under the new law when she spoke at the parole hearing of Charles "Tex" Watson, one of her daughter's killers. She believed changes in the law had afforded her daughter dignity that had been denied her before and that she had been able to "help transform Sharon's legacy from murder victim to a symbol of victims' rights"...

Good points, Foxfire! You may persuade me yet!

 

[Foxfire]

Been following the Karen Swift(TN) homicide case since her mysterious abduction/murder. I checked in on it today and the 4th of July fireworks that I witnessed, do not compare to those in the 2014 election campaign for Dyer Co., TN Sheriff. Seems, long term incumbent Sheriff Jeff Box; normally, a shoe in for re-election is being haunted by the 2011 unsolved/cold case of the high profile horrific Swift abduction/murder. A websleuths poster's hubby once compared her case to a very dark southern gothic novel...I agree..

RARE Lunar Eclipse, on Dec 10/ 2011, the day before Karen Swift's remains were located
(Pic of lunar eclipse on page 15- comment 365 by otto-scroll on down for a pic of the Historic Bledsoe cemetery)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Karen-Swift-44-Dyersburg-30-Oct-2011-2/page15

Combined with the 1880s Bledsoe historical cemetery, possible staging/placement of her body in kudzu(church deacon spotted her hand reaching out for revelation), near three huge historic religious iron crosses, and Karen Swift vanished after attending a party on Halloween weekend, sometime during the dead of night...'yikes'!

As someone stated on another forum, this is beginning to sound like a tragic fictional Southern Gothic Novel, yet may actually be a tragically dark reality..

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Guess, Sarasota, FL PI Warner's site has been banned by WS..

http://www.localmemphis.com/news/lo...r-Victim-Karen/d/story/h7tGq4uMB0yaqOUdASgKTg

Another Search Conducted of Murder Victim Karen Swift's Home 07/04/2013
Shelley Orman

 

[Happyshoes]

First post with a reply To Solitaryone! I liked the other way too, but I'm a Taurus - always resistant to change and bull-headed!

Me, too - stubborn doesn't begin to describe it, much less the bull in the china shop; otherwise, we are as down to earth as you would ever find. haha
Just checking in, hoping we will hear something this week. I think we've waited long enough. Do we need to write Gov. Deal??

 

[Foxfire]

Me, too - stubborn doesn't begin to describe it, much less the bull in the china shop; otherwise, we are as down to earth as you would ever find. haha
Just checking in, hoping we will hear something this week. I think we've waited long enough. Do we need to write Gov. Deal??

Great idea Happyshoes...and there is a Governor's election in GA, 2014.. So keep a copy of the letter just in case...

(Save your USPS Stamp, Happyshoes)
GA Governor Nathan Deal Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/GovernorDeal

 

[Foxfire]

Do the math folks; The Silent Epidemic..
<BBM for Focus>

ROCHESTER, N.Y. - A computer analyst turned amateur detective used old FBI crime files to identify a cluster of unsolved murders of young women in upstate New York that police agree was the work of a little-known serial killer active in the early 1990s.

Kevin Fallon, 37, an information technology analyst from Buffalo, N.Y., has proven it's possible to spot serial murders by carefully studying FBI records of America's 190,000 unsolved homicides committed since 1980. About a third of all homicides go unsolved each year in the United States.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-unknown-Serial-Killer-unearthed-in-Rochester

 

[Foxfire]

Things are very quiet here, tonight.

Foxfire---you asked how long my sister has been a criminologist. She has been working in the field for about 46 years, and is still going strong.

Does anyone know what happened to our fellow WS, oceanblueeyes??? She had many fascinating ideas, and I hope that she is on vacation or just taking a break. We miss you...

I heard a thought provoking idea tonight: When one feels bored, it is the brain's way of resting.

Hoping the new week brings some good news about progress on this baffling case. :twocents:

IMHO

The quiet before the storm, Wildebeest..at least I hope it is...
Salute to your criminologist sister.. Would luv to hear some of the cases she has worked on, and her take on the advancements in criminology, technology, & investigations over the past half century..
I've seen oceanblueyes on another WS site or two. If Ocean ate all that feast that she was preparing for the 4th. She's prolly laying in a hammock somewhere resting her brain...

 

[Bootsctr]

I'll have to try something different. A poster put that link on earlier and I was able to use to read Eatonton messenger articles for a while. Looks like it is expired. Hmmmmm...

 

[Foxfire]

I'll have to try something different. A poster put that link on earlier and I was able to use to read Eatonton messenger articles for a while. Looks like it is expired. Hmmmmm...

Bootsctr, Maybe Websleuths should require The Eatonton Messenger & other pay per view new$papers, to subscribe to read here, huh?

 

[southernmimi]

From what I've read, there is no reason to connect the Dermonds to York or the NC. Hoping to bring SS misery with an unsolved case is a longshot...IMO.

 

[Happyshoes]

Checking in, was hoping to see news but not holding my breath. What is the story on the people arrested for meth on June 20th? Anything to that? I wish SS would just give a regular Monday morning update.

 

[southernmimi]

Checking in, was hoping to see news but not holding my breath. What is the story on the people arrested for meth on June 20th? Anything to that? I wish SS would just give a regular Monday morning update.

I wish it he would, too, but afraid there isn't any news to report. IMO, catching a killer involves some carelessness on their part...this one must have been like a fox.

 

[Foxfire]

I wish it he would, too, but afraid there isn't any news to report. IMO, catching a killer involves some carelessness on their part...this one must have been like a fox.

"With foxes, we must play the fox." quote by Thomas Fuller

 

[Rhyolite]

Bootsctr, Maybe Websleuths should require The Eatonton Messenger & other pay per view new$papers, to subscribe to read here, huh?

Maybe better NOT to link to newspapers who put up a Pay Wall. That way fewer hits on their sites, fewer potential subscribers.