GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

  • #641
How far away from their car were their bodies found? If someone had put them there, there would be drag marks or other evidence of that, which I haven't heard of. If someone forced them up there alive, there would be an extra set of footprints, but maybe the ground was such that footprints weren't visible.
 
  • #642
How far away from their car were their bodies found? If someone had put them there, there would be drag marks or other evidence of that, which I haven't heard of. If someone forced them up there alive, there would be an extra set of footprints, but maybe the ground was such that footprints weren't visible.
there is a good chance they died where they were found. it feels like an execution. mOO
 
  • #643
Nothing about this story makes any sense at all.
Reviewing the possibilities as well as the plausibility's below:

  • Two African American college students with zero inclination towards hiking or the North Ga Mountains both end up dead there. On a morning, that one or both of them should have been on a flight to Boston.
  • They certainly were not trying to squeeze in a hike before their trip to the airport. I hike all the time in the North Ga Mountains, and its not something you see young African American doing together. With their families yes and with a date yes, but as a sibling activity no. There family confirms this was not an interest of theirs as well.
  • I realize the nuclear family has been divided, but the stories coming from them are sparse and not consistent. Especially when there is contradiction if one or both of them were flying to Boston. I do feel the family is less than forthcoming.
  • Do either of them have a criminal record for violence or drug possession?
  • If this truly was a Murder/Suicide I think it would have went down in Gwinnett.
  • So for them to be abducted from Gwinnett County(if it was part of anything gang related they would have just been killed on the spot). I live in Gwinnett and thats generally how it transpires.
  • On the off chance they did go up to this remote North Ga mountain. Were they catfished into a meeting with someone? A young mans libido at that age is more likely to over rule logic and common sense. I see no other logical reason they would have been there.. As stated on here earlier, on the off chance someone kidnapped them, why take them all the way there and leave the car. That requires another means of transportation.
  • I have not heard if they found a handgun at the scene, but for LE to rule this as a M/S more than likely they did. If it was staged well enough to look like a murder/suicide than the twins were lured there as opposed to a meeting of chance.
  • The only way I think it could have been a Murder/Suicide is if they made a pact before hand and wanted to spare their family of discovering their bodies.(Yet wanted to be found rather easily by an adult in public without it being too public to traumatize young children)
I am leaning towards a catfish scenario in which they were lured as I have not heard of anything that was stolen from the twins. Neither was there any indications of any sort of transaction type meeting.
 
  • #644
well we know that at 1030 pm fri night, they were 90 miles from bell mountain, and I think it takes 1.5-2 hrs to get there,
The gate should have been locked, even if locked late, the sherriff was supposed to take a look around to see if there are any cars in the lot.

Their car was found inside the gates, which I have read is 300 meters from the summit? Maybe if there are any locals here thay can confirm or deny?
Easy enough to have someone waiting for you on the other side of the gate but how did they get in and when? and how far down would the exit be? and a car waiting?
I didnt see any video from the gas station, has L/e confirmed it was them ? They say they have video but they dont show it? How weird, unless maybe there is someone identifiable in it, or plate numbers and they dont want to scare them off before they are checked out
 
  • #645
well we know that at 1030 pm fri night, they were 90 miles from bell mountain, and I think it takes 1.5-2 hrs to get there,
The gate should have been locked, even if locked late, the sherriff was supposed to take a look around to see if there are any cars in the lot.

Their car was found inside the gates, which I have read is 300 meters from the summit? Maybe if there are any locals here thay can confirm or deny?
Easy enough to have someone waiting for you on the other side of the gate but how did they get in and when? and how far down would the exit be? and a car waiting?
I didnt see any video from the gas station, has L/e confirmed it was them ? They say they have video but they dont show it? How weird, unless maybe there is someone identifiable in it, or plate numbers and they dont want to scare them off before they are checked out
They showed it to their mother who confirmed it was them.
 
  • #646
They showed it to their mother who confirmed it was them.
and thanks for reminding me, there has been so much information given, taken away, corrected, recinded... its hard to remember what people said.
 
  • #647
Nothing about this story makes any sense at all.
I hear you, completely.
The Georgia woman who self-immolated in a ravine off a highway after shopping at Family Dollar. Four Texas deputies in six weeks (!).
Lyle Stevik.
A thousand more examples
I empathetically relate with the desire to rationally analyze, point holes, etc.
Nothing, NOTHING about suicide is rational. All emotion.
Am confident there is more information available to the family as to what unfolded than is available publicly, or we’d be witnessing (rightfully) much more of an outcry.
Prayers for all involved.
 
  • #648
If you do not believe this is a suicide, were they heirs to their father's... house? car? pension? something? I can accept that there are racist people who could murder some one for no good reason, but why would it be these twins from 90 miles away? And if they were murdered, the person who did it needed an untraceable gun they were willing to lose forever. Seems like a lot of twisted activities if it was not M/S. IMO
 
  • #649
I thought about catfish scenario but that would leave trail of messages , phone calls etc . Most likely friends would know one of them or both talked to someone online .
There would be something to be found on phones or computers .

Also if it was something pre planned how someone would know they would miss the flight? They were not supposed to be there at all but should have been in Boston.
 
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  • #650
When they stopped for snacks, I wonder if they came out of the store with anything. They could have stopped to get snacks for the flight. Altho wasnt that store 9 miles from home? I'm sure there was a store closer to home if that was the case.
Did they return home after that? and leave again in the morning?
When did they load their luggage into the car? ( no-one will know that I bet) are there any ring cameras around?


IF they didnt return home after the store, they took their luggage with them and didnt plan on returning home that night.
Since the step-mom saw them earlier in the evening, Could they have been on their way out somewhere at 10:30 rather than on their way back home from a store 9 miles away?
If this was a M/S why book and pay for flights? Why pack luggage?
What were they ( or one ) going to Boston for, to see who or to do what??
 
  • #651
When they stopped for snacks, I wonder if they came out of the store with anything. They could have stopped to get snacks for the flight. Altho wasnt that store 9 miles from home? I'm sure there was a store closer to home if that was the case.
Did they return home after that? and leave again in the morning?
When did they load their luggage into the car? ( no-one will know that I bet) are there any ring cameras around?


IF they didnt return home after the store, they took their luggage with them and didnt plan on returning home that night.
Since the step-mom saw them earlier in the evening, Could they have been on their way out somewhere at 10:30 rather than on their way back home from a store 9 miles away?
If this was a M/S why book and pay for flights? Why pack luggage?
What were they ( or one ) going to Boston for, to see who or to do what??
some good questions. I think think they were on a way somewhere and stopped for evening snack. The question is where to? Did they tell the family where were they going? Where were they supposed to sleep? Was it normal for them not to be home for the night?


In MSM stated they were going to visit friends in Boston.

Also the gun, is a gun missing from any family member? Did the twins own a gun?
 
  • #652
Did the twins own a gun?
RSBM - The twins (age 19) are not old enough to legally own a handgun in Georgia.

  • Meet at least one of these age-related requirements:
    • Be 21 or older
    • Be 18 or older if you are in the military, have completed basic training, and can provide proof that you are either on active duty or have been honorably discharged
 
  • #653
RSBM - The twins (age 19) are not old enough to legally own a handgun in Georgia.

  • Meet at least one of these age-related requirements:
    • Be 21 or older
    • Be 18 or older if you are in the military, have completed basic training, and can provide proof that you are either on active duty or have been honorably discharged
Ah thank you . Im not familiar with gun laws in the US.
 
  • #654
Ah thank you . Im not familiar with gun laws in the US.
No problem at all, you're welcome. I think a lot will center around who the owner of the firearm is. Unless this is a ghost gun, I'm sure LE knows who the owner is.
 
  • #655
Yes those are good questions above. I hate how law enforcement has gotten into the habit of giving very few details about a case in recent times. In the old days they gave you a lot more details to help you ponder a crime. Nowadays they're so vague about everything.
 
  • #656
Yes those are good questions above. I hate how law enforcement has gotten into the habit of giving very few details about a case in recent times. In the old days they gave you a lot more details to help you ponder a crime. Nowadays they're so vague about everything.
Why so hush-hush? I can totally respect the privacy if they say why. To leave it at M/S that doesnt sit well with the family, and not expect all the websleuthers to go over it with a fine-tooth comb? Not a chance.
They're doing more investigating? like what? Tox? What will that change?
Maybe they investigating, but at least have a press conference or something and tell everyone where you are at.
 
  • #657
That firearm used in this case...if owned by a family member of these two young men, would that owner be likely to publicly admit that? Would that owner not come forward and admit that yes indeed, the boys took my firearm? Could it be logically argued that the theoretical owner in this scenario would keep that missing firearm a secret?....if so, why would that be?

Or, assuming the firearm is NOT owned by a family member, would the family not be likely to acknowledge that publicly? Would a family member not come forth and say HEY wait a minute, where'd they get a gun? We don't own any guns?

You see, that gun either IS, or is NOT a firearm owned by a family member. So, if it was a murder/suicide, then the gun was either taken from the family member, or the gun was acquired in some other way.

If it were murder, then the gun wasn't the boy's at all, unless they had it in their possession and someone used it against them in the crime.

The gun. That's where I'm at with this thing. Either the family says nothing (which to me is the case here), they say HEY, the boys stole it from a family member, or, we own no guns, or have no missing guns.

Why's everybody involved in this, police, family, etc....mum on the gun?
 
  • #658
That firearm used in this case...if owned by a family member of these two young men, would that owner be likely to publicly admit that? Would that owner not come forward and admit that yes indeed, the boys took my firearm? Could it be logically argued that the theoretical owner in this scenario would keep that missing firearm a secret?....if so, why would that be?

Or, assuming the firearm is NOT owned by a family member, would the family not be likely to acknowledge that publicly? Would a family member not come forth and say HEY wait a minute, where'd they get a gun? We don't own any guns?

You see, that gun either IS, or is NOT a firearm owned by a family member. So, if it was a murder/suicide, then the gun was either taken from the family member, or the gun was acquired in some other way.

If it were murder, then the gun wasn't the boy's at all, unless they had it in their possession and someone used it against them in the crime.

The gun. That's where I'm at with this thing. Either the family says nothing (which to me is the case here), they say HEY, the boys stole it from a family member, or, we own no guns, or have no missing guns.

Why's everybody involved in this, police, family, etc....mum on the gun?
I'm right there with you.
 
  • #659
Why so hush-hush? I can totally respect the privacy if they say why. To leave it at M/S that doesnt sit well with the family, and not expect all the websleuthers to go over it with a fine-tooth comb? Not a chance.
They're doing more investigating? like what? Tox? What will that change?
Maybe they investigating, but at least have a press conference or something and tell everyone where you are at.
It's called hold back information. Revealing too much too soon can tip off the perpetrator(s). It's pretty standard in an ongoing investigation. Also I do want to point out one thing. I thing the convenience store the boys bought snacks at was 9 minutes away from their home instead of 9 miles. I have seen it stated both ways, but further up the thread someone familiar with the area said it was only 9 minutes. I think it makes a difference.
 
  • #660
It's called hold back information. Revealing too much too soon can tip off the perpetrator(s). It's pretty standard in an ongoing investigation. Also I do want to point out one thing. I thing the convenience store the boys bought snacks at was 9 minutes away from their home instead of 9 miles. I have seen it stated both ways, but further up the thread someone familiar with the area said it was only 9 minutes. I think it makes a difference.
It can be as detrimental to a case as the other side of the controversy. The holding back.
9 minutes away , could mean 2 miles .
We need a maps . And local traffic report.
 

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