GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

[kaen]

Every generation in the US has faced challenges. Worldviews are largely shaped by the family of origin. What you say is true, I’m not diminishing that.

But it sounds like a very hopeless point of view. There is beauty and goodness in everything around us; what you choose to see shapes your worldview.

I agree. But the lives of young people are so much more connected and infiltrated with all kinds of noise that I think there is a higher level of hopelessness. My kids range from teens to late twenties.... the differing perspective of the youngest one and the oldest is startling. The younger is so much more social media and pessimism laden. It is hard to watch and hard to combat.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

So very sorry for the family.
My prayers will be with them.
I do think the information about them buying the ammunition could have been released sooner. That could have tapped down on a lot of speculation very quickly.

 

[Pseudonymph]

Every generation in the US has faced challenges. Worldviews are largely shaped by the family of origin. What you say is true, I’m not diminishing that.

But it sounds like a very hopeless point of view. There is beauty and goodness in everything around us; what you choose to see shapes your worldview.

To be fair, good mental health is not always dependent on just changing your outlook. The brain is an organ of the body and depression is a physical illness. You can't think your way out of a broken arm either. You can get good care and treatment and heal in time.

 

[browneyes]

Heartfelt condolences to their family and friends.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

On Wednesday, May 21, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) announced that they’d ruled that both young men died by suicide, a change from the agency’s initial findings on March 9, in which they classified their deaths as a “murder suicide" based on preliminary evidence.

“The comprehensive investigation indicates the injuries causing their deaths were self-inflicted.”

Sister Details Last Conversation She Had with 19-Year-Old Twin Brothers as Officials Determine They Died by Suicide

Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, 19, were found dead on top of a mountain in Georgia on March 8 — months later, their deaths were ruled as suicides, but their family still has questions.

people.com

 

[ChatteringBirds]

But it sounds like a very hopeless point of view. There is beauty and goodness in everything around us; what you choose to see shapes your worldview.

But Knox, you know it's complicated. People can't help it, if they have suicidal ideation, etc.

You can get good care and treatment and heal in time.

Often depression, anxiety disorder, or mental illnesses are treatable. But unfortunately not 100% of the time.

IMO.

 

[starlightstarbright]

I was listening to a podcast the other day and the person was speaking about suicide. He said that every suicide on average affects 130 people. Obviously, close family and friends, but there are neighbours and classmates from school 20 years ago who hear the news and the woman who knows them from the coffee shop. It just really struck me about this case in particular, how many of us obviously didn’t know them in life, but have been touched and affected by their deaths. I hope their families can find some peace and closure.

 

[Ssschu]

On Wednesday, May 21, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) announced that they’d ruled that both young men died by suicide, a change from the agency’s initial findings on March 9, in which they classified their deaths as a “murder suicide" based on preliminary evidence.

“The comprehensive investigation indicates the injuries causing their deaths were self-inflicted.”

Sister Details Last Conversation She Had with 19-Year-Old Twin Brothers as Officials Determine They Died by Suicide

Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, 19, were found dead on top of a mountain in Georgia on March 8 — months later, their deaths were ruled as suicides, but their family still has questions.

people.com

The twins’ older sister, Kai'ree Powell, remembered her last day with them. On March 6, the three siblings watched a sitcom at her home in Atlanta and talked about life.

“They asked me … ‘If you didn’t have any anxiety and fears, what would you do?’ And I told them that I would want to dance because I’ve always wanted to be a dancer,” Powell told CNN. “And they said, ‘You should do that. I really hope that you do that.’ ”

"That was the last thing they said to me," she added.

 

[Muddy K]

Snipped from the People mag article linked above, bolding by me:

The twins’ older sister, Kai'ree Powell, remembered her last day with them. On March 6, the three siblings watched a sitcom at her home in Atlanta and talked about life.

“They asked me … ‘If you didn’t have any anxiety and fears, what would you do?’ And I told them that I would want to dance because I’ve always wanted to be a dancer,” Powell told CNN. “And they said, ‘You should do that. I really hope that you do that.’ ”

"That was the last thing they said to me," she added.

I feel like a chicken scratching around in the dust, I think, in trying to find a kernel of anything, any speck at all, to help me understand why these young men killed themselves. I mean, they had to look up how to load a gun, a detail which I find heartbreaking.

So I can't help but overanalyze the conversation above and wonder what Naazir and Qaadir knew about anxiety and fears. In the end, it seems they must have known a lot, terribly a lot. Their willingness to ask their sister that introspective, vulnerable question - one that, IMO, could see many young men laughed at were they to ask it - suggests sensitivity. If only they had continued the exchange and told her something, anything, that could have triggered an alarm.

 

[Knox]

I agree. But the lives of young people are so much more connected and infiltrated with all kinds of noise that I think there is a higher level of hopelessness. My kids range from teens to late twenties.... the differing perspective of the youngest one and the oldest is startling. The younger is so much more social media and pessimism laden. It is hard to watch and hard to combat.

True. Our daughter and granddaughter (just turned 11) have lived with us for the past year. Keeping her off her off the computer and our phones is difficult. Most of her friends have iphones. Also pressure at school in fifth grade, that I don’t remember my own kids facing even in 8th grade.

My point in saying there is beauty and goodness all around us. Was to offer a counterpoint to anyone reading our posts in this thread right now. Not to marginalize anyone who is experiencing hopelessness. Not who I am.

 

[PeregrineFalcon]

I personally have always thought this case was suicide. On a side note: As more and more research comes out about screen time, social media, etc. more and more people are keeping their children off of this media - especially those that don't need to use TV, computers, etc as baby sitters for their children. I have family members whose whole degrees (BS and MS) are in the computer field - but they are absolutely keeping all of their children off computers and demanding that their private school not use screens to teach - lazy teaching and lazy parenting. I really believe as parents become more aware of how screens change brain development, brain function and addictions, they will move toward a more balanced view of screen time with their children/teens.

 

[Cedars]

Nobody has mentioned how unusual a suicide pact is. Like, less than 1% of all suicides are a pact.

IMO, whatever factors might trigger an isolated person (who usually doesn't feel they have anyone to talk with), can't be assumed to apply here.

Even as twins, each person has independent thoughts, moods, energy, etc. In a healthy relationship, when one person feels down, such a close companion can lift them up...something went wrong here - perhaps it was a folie a deux ie a shared delusion that was reinforced by their over-closeness.

ETA: it could be something very different from speculation, like 'let's not get older and have to live separate lives...'

 

[minazoe]

It's never truly understandable when it's not something like terminal illness or tremendous loss.

I've known some suicides..an intensely beautiful guy who was Tom Cruise level beautiful and owned a hot club. A beautiful red head who jumped out a window and another dear coworker who killed himself at work by jumping out a high rise window.
Another friend a brilliant artist had early onset schizophrenia hung himself in the woods.
Two friends I had each had a sister try several times before succeeding as they often will continue to try until they have success. both were in their twenties.

I guess I've known enough suicides to know that they happen..but somehow the idea of the two of them doing this with a gun is beyond me...mOO

 

[Knox]

Twin brothers Qaadir and Naazir Lewis were found dead on a remote Georgia mountaintop. Police now say they’ve solved the mystery | CNN

Qaadir and Naazir Lewis, 19-year-old identical twins, were found fatally shot at the remote summit of a Georgia mountain. The mystery has baffled their family for months, but police now say they know what happened

amp.cnn.com

This story has details about Naazir and Quaadir lives, some of my questions were answered, except one - why.

 

[Knox]

Family disagrees with GBI's ruling on deaths of twins found on Bell Mountain

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation has concluded its inquiry into the deaths of twin brothers Qaadir Malik Lewis and Naazir Rahim Lewis, ruling the case a suicide-suicide.

www.fox5atlanta.com

Watch the video at link for more details.

 

[kaen]

But Knox, you know it's complicated. People can't help it, if they have suicidal ideation, etc.



Often depression, anxiety disorder, or mental illnesses are treatable. But unfortunately not 100% of the time.

IMO.

One would have to know they have a illness or disorder in order to seek treatment. There may have been a normalizing that occurred because they spoke with each other and were so close. Their family might not have seen or interpreted their behavior as concerning because they had each other.

 

[minazoe]

can gun residue be transferred when a recently fired weapon in put into someone's hand?
this ruling stinks to me...I don't believe it either.

now if you tell me one killed the other, staged it and killed himself, I might believe it. but that these two concocted this wild suicide pact and executed themselves with a handgun on a mountain top...? No I'm sorry this is NOT what happened. mOO

 

[Sarahlou]

can gun residue be transferred when a recently fired weapon in put into someone's hand?
this ruling stinks to me...I don't believe it either.

now if you tell me one killed the other, staged it and killed himself, I might believe it. but that these two concocted this wild suicide pact and executed themselves with a handgun on a mountain top...? No I'm sorry this is NOT what happened. mOO

All the evidence shows that's exactly what happened though.
I don't know why it's hard to believe.

 

[minazoe]

All the evidence shows that's exactly what happened though.
I don't know why it's hard to believe.

because something is very shady. mOO

 

[Knox]

All the evidence shows that's exactly what happened though.
I don't know why it's hard to believe.

I’ll add, we don’t have every detail of this investigation. They released enough information to tell the public generically how they determined their final ruling. The privacy of the victims- Naazir and Quaadir and their families, will trump our need to make it make sense.

How would it benefit the GBI to issue a false ruling in this case? What’s the payback? Why would the ME, investigators, forensic/lab techs and a host of others all conspire with each other to cover up the murder of Naazir and Quaadir?

The vocal family group quoted in the CNN story linked above, issued a statement on Facebook. It’s linked in the MSM article above if you care to read. In that public statement they reveal suspicions about the home the twins lived in and call LE to look deeper.

In addition to the original crowd source fund which had $66k in it as of yesterday. A new and separate fund was created this morning to obtain a PI the goal is liated as $300k.