GA v Hannah Payne - HP allegedly murdering a man involved in a hit-and-run in 2019 *GUILTY*

[RickshawFan]

Oh those gold cross earrings and necklace were 1000% for show, IMO!

She was even wearing a pink WWJD type of bracelet. (I don’t know if that’s what her bracelet actually said because I know people can order them to say whatever they want to nowadays — but the OG silicone rubber bracelets were WWJD bracelets and it certainly wouldn’t surprise me.)

She’s a self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrite. Actions speak louder than religious symbolism.

Yes, I noticed the bracelet. I assumed it was one of those WWJD thingies, but I thought I was being a little excessive.... glad to hear someone else went for that guess!

I believe she had the words written out on it, 'cos I tried to look closely at the length of the inscription.

And I'm sorry for disparaging a necklace cross, but the crucifix was nun-sized. And always hanging out (bad taste unless you're a nun IME), pulled out of her blouse; you'd normally expect to have a cross pendant flit between seen and hidden.

HP did have earrings on when she was brought in for interrogation—you can see them in the photo of her scratches—but hard to tell if they were mini crucifixes. The whole court display, including the matronly clothes and passé hairstyle (that ironically is a fave of inmates these days, e.g. Vallow), you just know run contrary to a gal who owns a jeep with balloon tires and evidently thinks she's cool.

I really would like to know what HP was doing before the murder. I have a feeling: nothing. If she was doing abundant volunteer work (like working in soup kitchens), I could sort of understand the crosses as good-luck amulets, but a nun-pendant (it was the style with Jesus on the cross, yeah, which is Catholic?) is just way overboard and suggests impostering. But since we haven't had any mention of redeeming life work and commitment to others....

So ironic to have a cross with an almost-dead and suffering human on it, who'd pretty much been killed for no reason, worn around her neck.

If religion of any kind survives her translation to inmate status, I believe she may be allowed a small, unadorned, crucifix.

PS I don't mean to offend anyone with my remarks. I am likely jaded by my experience as a child; I understood the definition of hypocrisy and irony from observing school nuns with flagrant displays of religious symbols. I also understood what evil looks like there in the eyes of a nun: I have never forgotten it. This experience does not at all endear me to HP's decorative efforts.

 

[RickshawFan]

HP was convicted of malice murder for the death of Kenneth Herring faces life behind bars. Will the judge give her the possibility of parole after serving 30 years?

Defense attorney plans to make an oral motion for a new trial based on alleged errors of biased on other grounds and of course he will file an appeal.


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@CourtTV

#HannahPayne's attorney described her as "devastated" as he talked about what to expect at Friday's sentencing in the #CarCrashVigilanteTrial. Payne was found guilty of malice murder in the death of 62-year-old #KennethHerring. #CourtTV's @ChanleyCourtTV breaks down Payne's chances of parole.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1735447730288554035

She has to do more than 30 years because she used a gun? And then there's the charge of false imprisonment.

And, unfortunately, it seems she's been out on bond for 4 years: that's pre-trial purgatory without racking up time-served.

 

[Kittybunny]

I'm so happy justice was served. She's a real piece of work, this one!

She reminds me of Lauren Pazienza, the woman who shoved an 81-yr old woman onto the sidewalk in a fit of rage in NYC. There were a lot of stories about Lauren and her ridiculous behavior, thanks to the NY Post. How she screamed at neighbors in her apartment building, how she got in fights with her fiancé etc.. She came from a really wealthy family though - NY Post dubbed her the "cesspool scion" haha.

It would be interesting to see and hear additional stories about this woman, I would be shocked if this is the first time she's acted in an angry or violent way. Im sure her defense team cleaned up her social media long ago. Regardless, 100 percent agree that she was a ticking time bomb!

 

[DS2021]

Was she working a job

She was working for a rental company, collecting rent, showing rentals to potential tenants, etc. She claims she got the gun due to her job.

 

[RickshawFan]

She was working for a rental company, collecting rent, showing rentals to potential tenants, etc. She claims she got the gun due to her job.

No catholic charities, I'll bet, unless the defense produces a rabbit out of a hat tomorrow.

 

[aafromaa]

I was watching some parole hearings yesterday. There were 2 different women in their 50s who had served over 30 years. I’ll call them Lady A and Lady B. Lady A was still blaming her crime on others and on her situation at the time. Basically her plea for early release was based on her thoughts that she shoudn’t have been there in the first place and if she’d had a better lot in life she would have never ended up there and she blamed other inmates for the variety of times she was written up in prison - nothing was ever her fault even after more than 30 years. Lady B was totally opposite but she admitted when she was first convicted and sentenced she felt like it wasn’t her fault. But something happened to her in that first year in prison - perhaps the victim’s impact workshops - that helped her step outside of her own view and see her actions from the victim’s perspective as well as from a public perspective and she realized for the first time what she had done and that she was right where she belonged for her crime. She wasn’t asking to be released after 30 years because she deserved it and acknowledged that she deserved to serve the rest of her life behind bars but asked for mercy. She didn’t tout her own accomplishments in prison - though the warden did with a glowing recommendation. Neither was decided during the videos I saw so don’t really know whether either received parole but I kept thinking of this case and HP and wondered whether she will be like Lady A in 20 or 30 years - still clinging to her thought that she did nothing wrong and doesn’t deserve to be in prison - or whether she will be lIke Lady B and have her eyes opened to what she did and why it was so wrong on so many levels and how it impacted the family and friends of her victim and the community in general.

For the HP that she is today, I hope the judge throws the book at her and gives her no possiblity of parole. For the HP that she can become if she opens her eyes to her guilt and how her own action took an innocent life, hope she is actually given a chance at parole at some point down the line.

The family has waited 4 years for this trial. My guess is that the conviction itself showing that this person needlessly took the life of their loved one was just as important and perhaps even moreso than the actual sentencing today. I hope she gets serious time because she deserves it and no one knows at this point whether prison will wake her up and reform her or whether it will harden her and make her even worse in her view that she has and can do no wrong. But that’s why there are parole boards and I hope she gets to face one in 30 years or so.

 

[arielilane]

WATCH LIVE: Citizen’s Arrest Turned Deadly Murder Trial - GA v. Hannah Payne - Sentencing​

In 2019, Hannah Payne witnessed a hit-and-run accident. She called 911 to report the crash — but instead of following instructions from dispatchers — she followed one of the drivers involved in the crash, Kenneth Herring, and demanded he return to the scene. Payne then shot and killed Herring as he sat in the driver’s seat of his car. The 25-year-old was found guilty on all eight counts against her including murder, assault, false imprisonment, and possession of firearms. Payne will be sentenced Friday and could spend the rest of her life in prison.

 

[arielilane]

She was working for a rental company, collecting rent, showing rentals to potential tenants, etc. She claims she got the gun due to her job.

Yes, but what was HP doing during the time out on bond? Was she able to keep the rental co job? I may have missed it. TIA

 

[arielilane]

She has to do more than 30 years because she used a gun? And then there's the charge of false imprisonment.

And, unfortunately, it seems she's been out on bond for 4 years: that's pre-trial purgatory without racking up time-served.

My understanding is she has to do at least 30 years. We shall see. moo

 

[arielilane]

MOO, she will get LWOP.

 

[texaslb218]

MOO, she will get LWOP.

MOO also.

 

[arielilane]

20 minute delay, due to the defense attorney not present.

 

[RickshawFan]

20 minute delay, due to the defense attorney not present.

Well, that's not a good start. It happened before, too, yes?

 

[aafromaa]

TBF when sentencing was set defense atty did say he had something else this morning and would come after it. Still I’m sure the judge is not too happy about her court being delayed - now for over 30 min - I remember thinking at the time that he should have asked for it to be pushed back an hour or so to give him enough time

 

[twall]

State says sentencing will be on counts 1,5 and 6. All other counts merge.

 

[arielilane]

@cathyrusson

Judge makes #HannahPayne's attorney apologize to the court for making them wait 30 minutes on him this morning.



Now that #HannahPayne is convicted and no jury present, she is in jail clothes at today's sentencing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1735684969576702207

 

[RickshawFan]

I was watching some parole hearings yesterday. There were 2 different women in their 50s who had served over 30 years. I’ll call them Lady A and Lady B. Lady A was still blaming her crime on others and on her situation at the time. Basically her plea for early release was based on her thoughts that she shoudn’t have been there in the first place and if she’d had a better lot in life she would have never ended up there and she blamed other inmates for the variety of times she was written up in prison - nothing was ever her fault even after more than 30 years. Lady B was totally opposite but she admitted when she was first convicted and sentenced she felt like it wasn’t her fault. But something happened to her in that first year in prison - perhaps the victim’s impact workshops - that helped her step outside of her own view and see her actions from the victim’s perspective as well as from a public perspective and she realized for the first time what she had done and that she was right where she belonged for her crime. She wasn’t asking to be released after 30 years because she deserved it and acknowledged that she deserved to serve the rest of her life behind bars but asked for mercy. She didn’t tout her own accomplishments in prison - though the warden did with a glowing recommendation. Neither was decided during the videos I saw so don’t really know whether either received parole but I kept thinking of this case and HP and wondered whether she will be like Lady A in 20 or 30 years - still clinging to her thought that she did nothing wrong and doesn’t deserve to be in prison - or whether she will be lIke Lady B and have her eyes opened to what she did and why it was so wrong on so many levels and how it impacted the family and friends of her victim and the community in general.

For the HP that she is today, I hope the judge throws the book at her and gives her no possiblity of parole. For the HP that she can become if she opens her eyes to her guilt and how her own action took an innocent life, hope she is actually given a chance at parole at some point down the line.

The family has waited 4 years for this trial. My guess is that the conviction itself showing that this person needlessly took the life of their loved one was just as important and perhaps even moreso than the actual sentencing today. I hope she gets serious time because she deserves it and no one knows at this point whether prison will wake her up and reform her or whether it will harden her and make her even worse in her view that she has and can do no wrong. But that’s why there are parole boards and I hope she gets to face one in 30 years or so.

I totally get this...I'm just not sure in the specific case of HP. Personally, I think in prison she'll get hardened, not softened. But that's a guess. The entitlement thing is very problematic for me.

I've been watching parole hearings, too (Louisiana gives the outcomes). I've noticed almost no one does what your Lady B does, even after 30 years. The Lady A's might even have taken classes, but can only parrot curriculum bullet points, and haven't internalized it. Luckily, the parole board figures this out. Also, they take the DA's and LE's positions on the parole very seriously, and they're often strongly negative. It might be the selection I've viewed, but there seem to be very few Lady B's.

I have a feeling LE and DA aren't gonna want HP to be paroled, even if she comes up for parole.

 

[RickshawFan]

I can't bear to watch victim impact statements, and many comments on the YT feed are disagreeing with the conviction, so I had to turn those off. Eek! What a terrible thing: I'm so grateful the jury wasn't bound to our country's deadly history and used their voices loud and clear.

 

[arielilane]

HP cries for herself only. Shows no remorse for killing Kenneth Herring. moo

 

[aafromaa]

I totally get this...I'm just not sure in the specific case of HP. Personally, I think in prison she'll get hardened, not softened. But that's a guess. The entitlement thing is very problematic for me.

I've been watching parole hearings, too (Louisiana gives the outcomes). I've noticed almost no one does what your Lady B does, even after 30 years. The Lady A's might even have taken classes, but can only parrot curriculum bullet points, and haven't internalized it. Luckily, the parole board figures this out. Also, they take the DA's and LE's positions on the parole very seriously, and they're often strongly negative. It might be the selection I've viewed, but there seem to be very few Lady B's.

I have a feeling LE and DA aren't gonna want HP to be paroled, even if she comes up for parole.

I agree Lady B’s are very few and I agree the likelihood of this prisoner getting hardened is strong but I cannot help thinking of my young nephews and nieces when they were about HP’s current age - they were foolish and had some entitlement issues too - but thankfully they never took another’s life. But if they had, I would hate to think that there was no hope of ever getting out. Certainly not saying HP should be released at 30 yrs - think she should get a life sentence - just with possibility of parole after 30 years to see what she does with it and who she becomes in her 50s and beyond and determine then whether or not she should be released back into society. My nieces and nephews are now in their late 30s and 40s and I no longer recognize those entitled self important selfish fools that they were in their teens and early 20s. I am so thankful that they stopped where they did and never crossed this line that HP has crossed and faced the possibility that one day of their life cost an innocent man his and put them behind bars forever.