Gene Hackman dead at 95: Iconic actor and wife, 63, are found dead with their dog at Santa Fe home. #2

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Anyone else remember the HOMELAND episode where they killed the vp remotely thru jacking up his pacemaker from his library, while he was at a party in another part of the house?

My SIL has her afib monitored from home. Straight to cardiologist's office. And that's just with medicare.

Even though he was wealthy, kinda seems like he wasn't being monitored. Maybe with BA being so much younger they used a home alert, an alarm which may have sent her to the meds before finding out exactly where he was.
They don't monitor pacemakers the way they monitor afib, in my personal experience. I've had a parent who had afib monitored and I've had a parent with a pacemaker. With regards to the pacemaker, the doctors have the ability to pull the data and look at it, but they don't keep a real-time monitor going and get no alerts as to irregular activity. In our case, we got a call from the doctor's office telling us that the battery was dying in the pacemaker and a replacement procedure was necessary.
 
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Because if he did have dementia or memory loss, it could explain why if didn’t call 911 if he found his wife on the floor.
We"ll never know if, or the extent to which he had dementia. Or maybe she had it. Lots of 64 year olds do. Was he or she homozygous for the APOE4 allele?
 
  • #423
In regards to these photos i initially thought the same.
however other photos from the same day show him walking on his own in the same clothes even without the cane, albeit frail
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Also this link contains a video of Gene spotted driving and ordering fast food in Mar 2023. he does seem healthy mentally too and still independent.
although the friends are saying the last year was a major decline
It was good seeing Hackman enjoy the fast food chix sandwich and chuckles seeing him dump the evidence.
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  • #424
What if he did? Are we going to look for his latest MRI?

Only because If he did—if something happened to Betsy first, for an example, with the decline in mental function he may not have the ability to know what he should do. How to use a phone. Where IS the phone. How to speak and communicate what’s wrong. Physical movement often becomes difficult. JMO
 
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It was good seeing Hackman enjoy the fast food chix sandwich and chuckles seeing him dump the evidence.
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yes i totally see him running off to enjoy it while his wife was distracted
 
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Only because If he did—if something happened to Betsy first, for an example, with the decline in mental function he may not have the ability to know what he should do. How to use a phone. Where IS the phone. How to speak and communicate what’s wrong. Physical movement often becomes difficult. JMO
I thought 2 blue phones were found? Anyway. Maybe she had the mental decline. Maybe neither.
 
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I thought 2 blue phones were found? Anyway. Maybe she had the mental decline. Maybe neither.
She looks so well put-together in the photos to me. I see a very young lady for her age. She looks fit and healthy to me and yes, I know there can be all kinds of health issues lurking underneath a healthy looking body. I can't help but notice the heel height of her boots. In my experience, heels are the first thing to go when people start losing strength, balance and mobility. She doesn't appear to fit the image I know of declining health. JMO.
 
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In regards to these photos i initially thought the same.
however other photos from the same day show him walking on his own in the same clothes even without the cane, albeit frail
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Also this link contains a video of Gene spotted driving and ordering fast food in Mar 2023. he does seem healthy mentally too and still independent.
although the friends are saying the last year was a major decline
He seemed to have lost weight and become frail looking. Of course not uncommon in the 90s. But he was likely mentally alert and able to walk without cane or walker at times, which is amazing.
 
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Without any proof here is what I think happened. His wife had some kind of episode, be it a stroke or heart attack and Gene ran to try to get help. As he opened the front door, he himself had an episode,at 95 easily brought on by the trauma and passed away in the doorway.
 
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She looks so well put-together in the photos to me. I see a very young lady for her age. She looks fit and healthy to me and yes, I know there can be all kinds of health issues lurking underneath a healthy looking body. I can't help but notice the heel height of her boots. In my experience, heels are the first thing to go when people start losing strength, balance and mobility. She doesn't appear to fit the image I know of declining health. JMO.
Me neither. But I know a couple of people who did a few points too low on the mci test but you'd never know it from their looks. Anyway either she or he or both or neither could have been mentally impaired.
 
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He seemed to have lost weight and become frail looking. Of course not uncommon in the 90s. But he was likely mentally alert and able to walk without cane or walker at times, which is amazing.
it really is but i also know how rapidly one can go downhill these 2 photos i assume same location were within a year of each other and it certainly seems to have taken a lot out of him
March 2023
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and sometime within the last year. his hands look awful in comparison
besides the same shoes hat and sunglasses, man seems to like the same snacks
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"In loving memory of our co-founder, business partner, and dear friends Betsy Arakawa and husband Gene Hackman."

 
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it really is but i also know how rapidly one can go downhill these 2 photos i assume same location were within a year of each other and it certainly seems to have taken a lot out of him
March 2023
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and sometime within the last year. his hands look awful in comparison
besides the same shoes vest hat and sunglasses, man seems to like the same snacks
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Quite a difference. Although, still walking around getting himself snacks at the store!

Not bad for 95!
 
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Quite a difference. Although, still walking around getting himself snacks at the store!

Not bad for 95!
may we all be so lucky!
 
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Guys, I'm confused about the pacemaker chat.

Can someone break it down real simple:

Are we saying the pacemaker *would* report an urgent event - but did *not* report his death?

What would count as an urgent event if not death?

Or is it possible the doctor did receive a report but didn't act upon it?
 
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In regards to these photos i initially thought the same.
however other photos from the same day show him walking on his own in the same clothes even without the cane, albeit frail
View attachment 567485
View attachment 567486
Also this link contains a video of Gene spotted driving and ordering fast food in Mar 2023. he does seem healthy mentally too and still independent.
although the friends are saying the last year was a major decline


When I first saw the photo of him and Betsy, and the way he is clutching her arm, I assumed he literally needed to lean on her for support.

But in these images (taken the same time?) he appears not to need that at all.
 
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