Gene Hackman dead at 95: Iconic actor and wife, 63, are found dead with their dog at Santa Fe home. #3

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Why? I don't find it particularly surprising.
I find it surprising- who leaves a deceased loved one lying in a morgue for over a month if one cares about that person- to me it says his so called loved ones did not care that much. Perhaps it has to do with the possibility (or so I read) that he left everything to his wife and nothing to his children---
 
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I find it surprising- who leaves a deceased loved one lying in a morgue for over a month if one cares about that person- to me it says his so called loved ones did not care that much. Perhaps it has to do with the possibility (or so I read) that he left everything to his wife and nothing to his children---
Perhaps it means there is discussion about where and how best to honor their final wishes. That can take time.

JMO
 
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I find it surprising- who leaves a deceased loved one lying in a morgue for over a month if one cares about that person- to me it says his so called loved ones did not care that much. Perhaps it has to do with the possibility (or so I read) that he left everything to his wife and nothing to his children---
The children probably want them to be together. Do his children have any say on what happens to Betsy?
 
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Perhaps it means there is discussion about where and how best to honor their final wishes. That can take time.

JMO
and i'm wondering if it has anything to do with legal or finalization of the will first.
 
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and i'm wondering if it has anything to do with legal or finalization of the will first.
If there were problems with the will that would account for the bodies being left at the morgue this long, I think we would have heard about it by now.

Heck, it's been reported and we know who is to inherit what from each Gene and Betsy wills.

JMO
 
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I do feel TMZ posted garbage.

Because right after stating their bodies hadn't been retrieved, they turned right around and said: "Officials tell us it’s not unusual for bodies to remain unclaimed for a month after dying. It’s unclear why Gene and Betsy’s bodies remain unclaimed ... but it’s possible the family is still making funeral arrangements or finalizing plans."

M00 they did nothing but tried to turn a mountain out of a molehill. Tried to sensationalize the situation for clicks.

I agree with the posters up above, that the family and possibly the trustee is trying to organize and complete all the arrangements for the funeral.
 
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According to the updated list of unclaimed decedents that came out today, neither Betsy and Gene names appear on the list.

Were their bodies claimed or names removed due to publicity?

 
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If there were problems with the will that would account for the bodies being left at the morgue this long, I think we would have heard about it by now.

Heck, it's been reported and we know who is to inherit what from each Gene and Betsy wills.

JMO
There may have been some party contesting the wills, so this may need to be resolved prior to the release of the remains.
 
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The children probably want them to be together. Do his children have any say on what happens to Betsy?
Perhaps Betsy left instructions in her will as to her wishes. If not, it would be up to her next of kin to make decisions as to the disposition of her remains. If no relative is able to make the decisions (IIRC, her mother may not be able to make the decisions due to Alzheimer's disease) then the court can appoint someone to make the decisions. But my guess is that Betsy would have addressed this issue in her will. From what we know of her will at this point, it sounds pretty thorough and I suspect her attorneys who drew up the will would have included that information on her behalf.
 
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I find it surprising- who leaves a deceased loved one lying in a morgue for over a month if one cares about that person- to me it says his so called loved ones did not care that much.
This is very common here in the UK as there is often a long delay between death and funeral. Not uncommon for there to be a wait of several weeks for a crematorium slot. It certainly doesn't mean that the family didn't care about the deceased. :(

In this case there may be some legal complications. It is unusual as there are two deceased. In the natural order of things Gene would have been expected to die fairly soon and Betsy would have made the arrangements.
 
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Perhaps Betsy left instructions in her will as to her wishes. If not, it would be up to her next of kin to make decisions as to the disposition of her remains. If no relative is able to make the decisions (IIRC, her mother may not be able to make the decisions due to Alzheimer's disease) then the court can appoint someone to make the decisions. But my guess is that Betsy would have addressed this issue in her will. From what we know of her will at this point, it sounds pretty thorough and I suspect her attorneys who drew up the will would have included that information on her behalf.
Yes! Perhaps it's complicated and will take time to arrange. For all we know they could have chosen to be blasted into space, or turned into fireworks.
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I find it surprising- who leaves a deceased loved one lying in a morgue for over a month if one cares about that person- to me it says his so called loved ones did not care that much. Perhaps it has to do with the possibility (or so I read) that he left everything to his wife and nothing to his children---


It’s actually very common, for a variety of reasons.
 
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Perhaps it means there is discussion about where and how best to honor their final wishes. That can take time.

JMO
I don’t think this is unusual these days, especially when the death is sudden and unexpected. I’ve known of at least two families who decided to wait a few months to make final arrangements, both times because family and friends lived some distance away and details of the estate had to be settled.

It’s possible the surviving family members aren’t sure who is legally designated to carry out these duties. If Gene arranged for his wife to have total control of his affairs after his death, it may require a court ruling to appoint someone else. I also don’t assume Gene’s children chose to be separated from him. Sometimes the second spouse advocates for that kind of arrangement, especially when the parent is wealthy, older and not in good health. JMO.
 
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I do feel TMZ posted garbage.

Because right after stating their bodies hadn't been retrieved, they turned right around and said: "Officials tell us it’s not unusual for bodies to remain unclaimed for a month after dying. It’s unclear why Gene and Betsy’s bodies remain unclaimed ... but it’s possible the family is still making funeral arrangements or finalizing plans."

M00 they did nothing but tried to turn a mountain out of a molehill. Tried to sensationalize the situation for clicks.

I agree with the posters up above, that the family and possibly the trustee is trying to organize and complete all the arrangements for the funeral.

I agree 100%. The way the story has been written, the portion of quoted almost an after thought. Right from the beginning, when the two sisters were photographed at a coffee shop after learning of the deaths they’ve been portrayed in the worst, thoughtless and ugliest possible light.

Why? I don’t get it.

Who are we to judge? It’s as if these stories as in DM were written so us ordinary folk can look down our noses with distain at the family dynamics of rich folk. The wealthy do not hold licence on distant family relationships, it commonly occurs with marital breakdowns and remarriage.

Or is it because us ordinary folks are envious of the wealth in general and we shrill at thinking they are all the time living in misery and feuding (even if they’re not). I have great empathy for GH’s children who have suddenly and ruthlessly been thrust into the media for the general public to dissect only because everyone wants to know their business when it’s none of ours. JMO
 
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Yes! Perhaps it's complicated and will take time to arrange. For all we know they could have chosen to be blasted into space, or turned into fireworks.
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This can be very true. My mother wants her ashes places in the roots of a small tree. Somethings just may take time.
 
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I saw that the youngest daughter had talked by phone him several months ago, but I hadn't read anything on when she last saw him in person.


Leslie Anne Allen—one of three children the actor shared with first wife Faye Maltese—told Fox News Digital that she hadn't seen her father for "a few years" because she lived in California and he no longer traveled much, but they had "been in touch over the last couple of months."

“I loved him dearly,” she said. "He was a genuinely good-hearted person." And, Leslie said she knew him to be in good health, practicing yoga and pilates regularly.
 
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I appreciate all of your input. As an only child of a single mother I really never had to deal with issues like an unclaimed deceased relative. My mother passed away a couple decades ago and of course there was the burial within a short time. I guess I was just thinking of Gene Hackman and his wife laying in the morgue for such a protracted period of time. It is an unpleasant thought.
 
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Did anyone watch the Forest Fenn doc on Netflix? He lived up in the rugged hillside of Santa Fe, possibly close to the Hackmans. It brought my thoughts to the invasion of privacy caused by the treasure seekers which caused disruption to everyone’s lives during that time. The other connection was the love of art, Forest owned an art gallery in Santa Fe. Gene was an artist in his later years and also a Santa Fe business owner at one time.
 
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I saw that the youngest daughter had talked by phone him several months ago, but I hadn't read anything on when she last saw him in person.


Leslie Anne Allen—one of three children the actor shared with first wife Faye Maltese—told Fox News Digital that she hadn't seen her father for "a few years" because she lived in California and he no longer traveled much, but they had "been in touch over the last couple of months."

“I loved him dearly,” she said. "He was a genuinely good-hearted person." And, Leslie said she knew him to be in good health, practicing yoga and pilates regularly.
I knew it was reported that Leslie hadn't spoken to her father in a few months. It’s sad that she hadn't seen her father in a few years.
 
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Caselookup - Disclaimer =
Looking for probate related filings by inputting this: name = Gene Hackman ...yr of birth =1930
Getting no results found.

Anyone? TiA
 
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