Gene Hackman dead at 95: Iconic actor and wife, 63, are found dead with their dog at Santa Fe home.

[whitelilac]

.I have always thought that electric heaters should never be used in bathrooms because of the danger of electrocution if near water.

I imagine that bathroom was pretty spacious, with a sinkless counter area as well, and the attached wardrobe where the dog crate was.

 

[STAGNUM]

^ Given the renovations of their home, I wonder why they did not have CO alarms, if their deaths were caused by CO.
Heck I have 3 in my house. It's actually required.

I have a bunch in my house even though we don't have gas appliances or park vehicles in the garage. We live in sort of a bowl here and CO from some outside source like neighbors generator or industrial accident was considered in my decision to install these. The CO detectors have a life of about 7 years and then they fail.

If the Hackman's had CO detectors it is possible with such a large house there were too few, in wrong locations, broken or deafness caused them not to be heard.

My theory is that GH eventually heard an alarm, and that is why he opened up a door. BA previously thought she was ill and went for headache meds and collapsed. The dog could have already been in the cage because it was problematic.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes, if she was a phone junky. Not everyone is...

She just has to be an average person. Assuming it's a smart phone, they'll be able to tell the last time any interaction occurred (Lock Screen, opening an app, phone moving, etc).

Her typical behavior would be easy to see, and any deviation from that would be telling.

 

[Warwick7]

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — The investigation into the death of Gene Hackman, his wife and dog has found no signs of foul play or gunshot or other wounds, and the gas company is assisting with the probe in a sign that authorities could suspect carbon monoxide poisoning is to blame.

Gene Hackman cause of death: Gas company assisting with investigation

The Oscar-winning actor's wife and dog were also found dead.

www.syracuse.com

Why not just ride out the time it takes for autopsies instead of announcing that their deaths were "suspicious". By issuing that statement it has set off a firestorm of wild theories.

 

[Warwick7]

She just has to be an average person. Assuming it's a smart phone, they'll be able to tell the last time any interaction occurred (Lock Screen, opening an app, phone moving, etc).

Her typical behavior would be easy to see, and any deviation from that would be telling.

Also it sounds on that particular day men were coming to work. That cell activity will be useful.

 

[Cedars]

I meant from the decomposition of one body compared to the other, that was the discussion. Whether they both died at the same time or some minutes apart from the condition of their bodies after being found a week or two later.

Minutes, no. IMO they won't be able to even say hours or days, just from decomp of remains after all this time, since they were in different locations.

 

[friendlysleuther]

Here’s some photos of the home I found
Goodnight

 

[ttjo]

Why not just ride out the time it takes for autopsies instead of announcing that their deaths were "suspicious". By issuing that statement it has set off a firestorm of wild theories.

I know, or explain that because there is no obvious COD, they will investigate it. suspicious was not the best word.

 

[Charlot123]

I repeat...Couldn't it be toxic mold in the house?

Mold is not likely, but Arizona and New Mexico have very unpleasant desert fungal infections. You can Google them. Something like Valley Fever which is usually limited but can be deadly to either elderly or some ethnic groups; there are worse things there. Ms. Arakawa is a Hawaiian native; it may be a broad term, but for example, Filipinos are more sensitive to Valley Fever. But even with two people being sick, both dying from the same condition at the same time is unlikely. It is possible, however, that Ms. Arakawa died first and Gene, 95 and without observation, succumbed soon. But even this is an unlikely scenario.

 

[friendlysleuther]

I know, or explain that because there is no obvious COD, they will investigate it. suspicious was not the best word.

I think it’s because they were needing to get the warrant, then the press went on a media frenzy about it (typical)

 

[iamshadow21]

Here’s some photos of the home I found
Goodnight

Well, that's definitely a gas hob in the kitchen.

 

[MassGuy]

Why not just ride out the time it takes for autopsies instead of announcing that their deaths were "suspicious". By issuing that statement it has set off a firestorm of wild theories.

They had to in order to justify the search warrant. You only get one chance to do this right, so the last thing you want to do is chalk it up to some sort of accident, and then realize that it's homicide or something.

They tend to err on the side of caution with these things.

 

[ttjo]

Hackman became so enamored with the home that he built a second property on the land in 2000, turning it into the perfect hideaway from Hollywood, where he ultimately spent much of his final years.

If he spent most of his time in the smaller house, maybe they didnt keep the big house heated? They were found in the big house? maybe they were out there doing some work? turned the furnace on, didnt even realize something was wrong ?

source:

Gene Hackman Is Found Dead Inside His Beloved $4 Million Santa Fe Compound—Alongside Wife Betsy Arakawa and Their Dog

Hollywood legend Hackman, 95, and his wife Arakawa, 63, were all found dead by police during a welfare check at their New Mexico home on Feb. 26.

www.realtor.com

 

[Kemug]

That's an interesting question to brainstorm:

Phone use, missed calls or unread texts, notations on schedules, break in routines such such as shopping or appointments, other pill prescriptions (how many pills taken since the refill), mail/newspaper delivery, remains of food at autopsy, remains of food in fridge since last shopping, remains of dishes revealibg the last meal, could anyone/a camera see lights on in house, outdoor security cameras showing routine of going in and out that ceased.

OK, sounds easy then

 

[Kemug]

I am in Australia, for the love of God, will somebody please tell me what a space heater is??!! (sorry to yell)

 

[iamshadow21]

I am in Australia, for the love of God, will somebody please tell me what a space heater is??!! (sorry to yell)

It's just a regular old heater. Designed to heat a room. Some are bigger, for bigger areas.

So, like out here, you get fan heaters, bar heaters, etc. Most are electric.

MOO

 

[Kemug]

It's just a regular old heater. Designed to heat a room. Some are bigger, for bigger areas.

So, like out here, you get fan heaters, bar heaters, etc. Most are electric.

MOO

Thanks. So in fact, a radiator?

 

[scandinavian girl]

Regarding dog crates, like some have said it is often the retreat spot for a dog to rest. I would say here in Sweden a locked crate is often for recovery after a vetrinary procedure and can be for a long time like knee surgery etc. I want to know if it was locked or not

 

[iamshadow21]

Thanks. So in fact, a radiator?

A radiator tends to be attached to a wall, as far as I know.

MOO

 

[Kemug]

A radiator tends to be attached to a wall, as far as I know.

MOO

Not the one I'm looking at right now!