Gene Hackman dead at 95: Iconic actor and wife, 63, are found dead with their dog at Santa Fe home.

[Megnut]

[No carbon monoxide???? What in the world? I was sure it was going to be something like that. ]

JMO

 

[DS2021]

 

[Lucy6226]

Yeah the major update was that neither had Carbon Monoxide in their vodies

If no external injuries, no carbon monoxide...maybe the pills then? What are people thinking?

 

[whitelilac]

he just said they've ruled out CO intoxication.
?

 

[Megnut]

No indication of stress. [I assume he means disturbance.]

No information on what killed the dog.

Don't think the space heater has anything to do with this.

 

[ttjo]

No indication of stress. [I assume he means disturbance.]

No information on what killed the dog.

Don't think the space heater has anything to do with this.

nope, doesnt sound like it, but what the heck could it be??
I never really thought the space heater was the cause I just thought it may have indicated that there was a problem somewhere else?

 

[Megnut]

One challenge is determining the timeline.

The pacemaker is event is obviously important.

They hope to piece things together, enlisting resources to access the phones.

 

[whitelilac]

do I have this right? Mr Hackman''s pacemaker indicated no activity after the 17th?

 

[Moonsie]

Well…if it is definitely not carbon monoxide, then I’m thinking homicide

 

[MissPie]

No indication of stress. [I assume he means disturbance.]

No information on what killed the dog.

Don't think the space heater has anything to do with this.

I wish someone had asked about the dog. Will the dog also be autopsied? If it did not of dehydration/malnourishment, it certainly might offer some clues. Poor thing. I’ve been wondering if it was the oldest of their dogs, and perhaps not in the best of health leading into this.

 

[whitelilac]

Leaning more and more to a medical event that happened to Betsy...eg aneurysm which would not show up in initial autopsy... I think.

 

[NuttMegg]

nope, doesnt sound like it, but what the heck could it be??

2 peoole so closely joined in the soul let go at once. Nearly 40 years together.

 

[Lucy6226]

Well…if it is definitely not carbon monoxide, then I’m thinking homicide

Maybe there was a calendar event in for the day the pacemaker stopped?

 

[DS2021]

do I have this right? Mr Hackman''s pacemaker indicated no activity after the 17th?

Yeah, that would likely indicate he died 10 days before being found

 

[Megnut]

Both tested negative for CO.

What could have happened??????

 

[Gemmie]

I can understand Mr. Hackman being deceased, after all... he was 95. But his wife apparently at the same time who was still young at 63? It just feels like the same thing, whatever that was, killed them both. As for the poor dog... likely starvation if it was in a closet. It couldn't get out like the other 2 dogs. So it's possible the dog didn't die from the same thing as Mr & Mrs. Hackman as it appears they were deceased for a while. Likely since 2/17 (last pacemaker event).

JMO

 

[ttjo]

well I am thankful that more info came out, instead of press conferences that say nothing.

 

[MissPie]

I can understand Mr. Hackman being deceased, after all... he was 95. But his wife apparently at the same time who was still young at 63? It just feels like the same thing, whatever that was, killed them both. As for the poor dog... likely starvation if it was in a closet. It couldn't get out like the other 2 dogs. So it's possible the dog didn't die from the same thing as Mr & Mrs. Hackman as it appears they were deceased for a while. Likely since 2/17 (last pacemaker event).

JMO

The poor pup should be autopsied, too, unless they KNOW it died from malnourishment.

 

[Megnut]

I'm stumped.

I wonder what information can be got from the pacemaker. Will there be a record? Pulse... to show if there was stress leading up to the stop.

None of the medications talked about scream suicide, and none I think instant death. Maybe the blood pressure one. Rapid loss of blood pressure?

Could it be this? She knew she didn't ever want to live without him? He had a heart attack and she chose to die too??????

This is crazy.

JMO

 

[Lyanna]

I think Betsy had a medical event which caused her death, Mr Hackman hears something, looks for her, finds her in bathroom with dog, put the dog in the closet/crate as it could have been trying to help wake her but was possibly in the way, he then went for help and either had a fall or he himself had a medical event due to the stress.

Moo

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