General Theories and Motives Rehashed #1

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What's going on here? According to Misty's father, lead investigator Peggy Cone goes to talk to Hank and Lisa and brings up the story about WBG, the party, the placing of Haleigh in a pond and even tells them there is proof it did happen? Fine. Whatever motives LE may have had for that move, I'm not going to question, but WAIT, we now have Tommy who agrees to testify that Joe had a dead Haleigh in the van! Let's run over there and go with that scenario and spend thousands of dollars on divers at Shell Harbor.

I'd just like to know if anyone has a theory on what LE may be doing? I'm just totally confused.


I don't know how much truth there is/was to the Peggy scenario but IF there actually was any evidence/remains in the Shell Harbor waters and they didn't check it, then what? LE had no choice BUT to check. If there is proof, I doubt very seriously that information would have been divulged to Lisa and Hank but if they did, they're digging hard. I'm hoping this will be solved very shortly.
 
What's going on here? According to Misty's father, lead investigator Peggy Cone goes to talk to Hank and Lisa and brings up the story about WBG, the party, the placing of Haleigh in a pond and even tells them there is proof it did happen? Fine. Whatever motives LE may have had for that move, I'm not going to question, but WAIT, we now have Tommy who agrees to testify that Joe had a dead Haleigh in the van! Let's run over there and go with that scenario and spend thousands of dollars on divers at Shell Harbor.

I'd just like to know if anyone has a theory on what LE may be doing? I'm just totally confused.

BBM...Yes, but I'll refrain for the time being...IMHO though PCSO needs to be investigated..JMO
 
Thank You for your hard work, Papa.

1. RON THREATENING AND ACTING OUT SUICIDE: Think of the fact (and those of us who believe these words of Misty's to be true, spoken under the severe strain of being in jail and having a little time with her Daddy)that this girl witnessed Ron putting a gun to his head. We have Tim Miller's account of Ron doing this in front of Tim (with his little boy present) as corroboration, though I don't find corroboration necessary. It's there, though.

So, we can assume that three children witnessed this at different times, Ron acting out suicide, holding an actual lethal weapon in the room with vulnerable young people under his control.

A sixteen year old girl, who turned 17 and 18 while she was with him. A four year old boy, who witnessed this after losing his sister and probably witnessed it before, as a three-year-old. HaLeigh, too, more than likely witnessed this at least once in her young lifetime. The trauma and the scars would be incredible and that alone could account for Misty's behavior since the crime against HaLeigh occurred.

THINK OF THE FEAR THAT RONALD CUMMINGS INSTILLED IN THESE VULNERABLE YOUNG PEOPLE, two of them his own precious, very young children.

2. USING HALEIGH: Ronald Cummings and his grandmother, Annette Sykes are so low that they would use an innocent five year old girl, their own flesh and blood, to lure a teenager back into this place of terror. The isolation they must have felt, those poor little children and even Misty, as she was sucked back in, probably ashamed and afraid to tell her family the brutal truth about Ron. Since grown women have trouble getting away from these kinds of situations think of a 16/17/18 year old girl, who in the midst of the abuse more than likely witnessed the death of HaLeigh at her father's hands. (This is my opinion).

The Cummings/Sykes/Neves are not above using ANYBODY if it serves whatever purpose they have in mind. Get Misty back so she will babysit those kids so the womenfolk don't have to. Also, keep Ron calm, get Misty back, use precious HaLeigh to do it.

My God, they used HaLeigh AFTER she was GONE, stating, as if what they were saying was perfectly logical and loving: HALEIGH wanted ~ "WANTED," they said, not "wants" ~ Misty and Ron to get married. So they were getting married because of THAT! In the infamous words of Granny Sykes, I say: "That's a CROCK!"

I firmly believe that these three people; Ron, Annette, and Teresa, threatened Misty and coerced her into lying about the events surrounding HaLeigh's death and the hiding of her body. I believe that they threatened Misty, and continue to threaten her and her family. Annette is calling Chelsea Croslin, mentioning Ron's lawyer beeping in on the other line getting all up into their business under the guise of being concerned. During the summer, when Misty mustered the strength and courage to call her family for help, we have Annette Sykes actually pushing Misty's mother back into her vehicle, not allowing this mother to protect her minor child and letting Misty witness what she and Ron would do to her family should she try leaving. Basically, imprisoning this child in the grips of her violent grandson and herself, both of whom she was (and is) intent on protecting.

THESE ARE MY STRONG OPINIONS, BASED UPON ALL WE HAVE HAD TO SEE AND LISTEN TO FROM THIS conscience-challenged, self-serving BUNCH, this paternal side of HaLeigh's family. Hearing young Misty talking to her Dad confirms what so many of us have believed to be close to the truth.




Excellent post Seeking Truth. Very well put analyzation of what Misty's psyche could have been throughout this ordeal then add on top of that her "infatuation" with this "man" (using the term loosely) under the influence of drugs. Very powerful dynamics.
 
BBM...Yes, but I'll refrain for the time being...IMHO though PCSO needs to be investigated..JMO

Well, what I'm trying to say is, if the story is true about Ms. Cone bringing up the WBG scenario again so recently (first part of April), it just gives the appearance of grasping, desperation and quite frankly, somewhat of a red herring.

OMO
 
I do believe Hank, Sr., is working with LE as far as trying to find out what he can from his children. Perhaps LE wanted Hank, Sr., to throw this out there to see how vehemently Misty denied it? It still seems somewhat fruitless to me. It's almost like LE has come full circle and starting over.

Perhaps it's time to call in a cold case squad from out-of-state.

OMO
 
Well, what I'm trying to say is, if the story is true about Ms. Cone bringing up the WBG scenario again so recently (first part of April), it just gives the appearance of grasping, desperation and quite frankly, somewhat of a red herring.

OMO

Not sure what WBG's current status is in Haleigh's case but since he's in jail now he might have been on LE radar because of his drug activities which Misty may have information about.

Otherwise I think LE may introduce a few red herrings to Misty et al. from time to time because if they go happily along with whatever scenario they suggest, whether it's plausible considering the evidence or not, it may be evidence that they're just making it all up as they go along, based on what they believe LE wants to hear.
 
Well, what I'm trying to say is, if the story is true about Ms. Cone bringing up the WBG scenario again so recently (first part of April), it just gives the appearance of grasping, desperation and quite frankly, somewhat of a red herring.
OMO

IIRC.. From what I gathered when I heard Cobra talk on the subject last summer, Cobra seemed to think they were grasping and desperate last summer too...JMO
 
What's going on here? According to Misty's father, lead investigator Peggy Cone goes to talk to Hank and Lisa and brings up the story about WBG, the party, the placing of Haleigh in a pond and even tells them there is proof it did happen? Fine. Whatever motives LE may have had for that move, I'm not going to question, but WAIT, we now have Tommy who agrees to testify that Joe had a dead Haleigh in the van! Let's run over there and go with that scenario and spend thousands of dollars on divers at Shell Harbor.

I'd just like to know if anyone has a theory on what LE may be doing? I'm just totally confused.

In my opinion Law Enforcement is getting ready to make arrests in Haleigh's case. Before they do this though they have to completely vet every tip, every rumor, every story. every siting...etc etc....even if they are just repeats of old stories. Otherwise when this case goes to trial the defense would be able to raise the points that each tip was not investigated and there could be another scenario with another perpetrator that explains Haleigh's disappearance and death. Reasonable doubt.

This recent arrest is just proof that tigers rarely change their stripes and drug sales and use is rampant in Putnam County Florida. http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760768&IMG=52125
 
Thank You for your hard work, Papa.

1. RON THREATENING AND ACTING OUT SUICIDE: Think of the fact (and those of us who believe these words of Misty's to be true, spoken under the severe strain of being in jail and having a little time with her Daddy)that this girl witnessed Ron putting a gun to his head. We have Tim Miller's account of Ron doing this in front of Tim (with his little boy present) as corroboration, though I don't find corroboration necessary. It's there, though.

So, we can assume that three children witnessed this at different times, Ron acting out suicide, holding an actual lethal weapon in the room with vulnerable young people under his control.

A sixteen year old girl, who turned 17 and 18 while she was with him. A four year old boy, who witnessed this after losing his sister and probably witnessed it before, as a three-year-old. HaLeigh, too, more than likely witnessed this at least once in her young lifetime. The trauma and the scars would be incredible and that alone could account for Misty's behavior since the crime against HaLeigh occurred.

THINK OF THE FEAR THAT RONALD CUMMINGS INSTILLED IN THESE VULNERABLE YOUNG PEOPLE, two of them his own precious, very young children.

2. USING HALEIGH: Ronald Cummings and his grandmother, Annette Sykes are so low that they would use an innocent five year old girl, their own flesh and blood, to lure a teenager back into this place of terror. The isolation they must have felt, those poor little children and even Misty, as she was sucked back in, probably ashamed and afraid to tell her family the brutal truth about Ron. Since grown women have trouble getting away from these kinds of situations think of a 16/17/18 year old girl, who in the midst of the abuse more than likely witnessed the death of HaLeigh at her father's hands. (This is my opinion).

The Cummings/Sykes/Neves are not above using ANYBODY if it serves whatever purpose they have in mind. Get Misty back so she will babysit those kids so the womenfolk don't have to. Also, keep Ron calm, get Misty back, use precious HaLeigh to do it.

My God, they used HaLeigh AFTER she was GONE, stating, as if what they were saying was perfectly logical and loving: HALEIGH wanted ~ "WANTED," they said, not "wants" ~ Misty and Ron to get married. So they were getting married because of THAT! In the infamous words of Granny Sykes, I say: "That's a CROCK!"

I firmly believe that these three people; Ron, Annette, and Teresa, threatened Misty and coerced her into lying about the events surrounding HaLeigh's death and the hiding of her body. I believe that they threatened Misty, and continue to threaten her and her family. Annette is calling Chelsea Croslin, mentioning Ron's lawyer beeping in on the other line getting all up into their business under the guise of being concerned. During the summer, when Misty mustered the strength and courage to call her family for help, we have Annette Sykes actually pushing Misty's mother back into her vehicle, not allowing this mother to protect her minor child and letting Misty witness what she and Ron would do to her family should she try leaving. Basically, imprisoning this child in the grips of her violent grandson and herself, both of whom she was (and is) intent on protecting.

THESE ARE MY STRONG OPINIONS, BASED UPON ALL WE HAVE HAD TO SEE AND LISTEN TO FROM THIS conscience-challenged, self-serving BUNCH, this paternal side of HaLeigh's family. Hearing young Misty talking to her Dad confirms what so many of us have believed to be close to the truth.



This has been my own opinion all along. Misty was the one used to babysit because GGS is worn out, TN didn't want bothered and RC wanted his lifestyle. RC only wanted the children from Crystal for control.

RC controlled Misty. TN, GGS do anything for RC......the golden boy.
TN is the brains on the clean up, story and cover up.
The 'shocking news' is when she gets arrested...........IMO

From day 1, I felt RC did something to Haleigh, then had his GGS, TN, MC, watch and plan and cover it up.

Misty was doped up and called in her back up which was Tom.

MOO............and so far I'm still sticking to it.
 
In my opinion Law Enforcement is getting ready to make arrests in Haleigh's case. Before they do this though they have to completely vet every tip, every rumor, every story. every siting...etc etc....even if they are just repeats of old stories. Otherwise when this case goes to trial the defense would be able to raise the points that each tip was not investigated and there could be another scenario with another perpetrator that explains Haleigh's disappearance and death. Reasonable doubt.

This recent arrest is just proof that tigers rarely change their stripes and drug sales and use is rampant in Putnam County Florida. http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=760768&IMG=52125

Looking at WBG's big charge..........

893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F $0.00

Makes you wonder if he was part of the same sting with the rest of the crew and they just waited to arrest him for some reason.
 
Looking at WBG's big charge..........

893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F $0.00

Makes you wonder if he was part of the same sting with the rest of the crew and they just waited to arrest him for some reason.

Personally, I think it was just his turn to get caught. Didn't he get pulled over on a routine traffic stop with another female in the car with him?

I don't know Doc, I guess anything is possible but I just don't think WBG figures into Haleigh's disappearance because of all the recent developments. Tommy has implicated himself again, he knows what happened to Haleigh in my opinion.
 
Personally, I think it was just his turn to get caught. Didn't he get pulled over on a routine traffic stop with another female in the car with him?

I don't know Doc, I guess anything is possible but I just don't think WBG figures into Haleigh's disappearance because of all the recent developments. Tommy has implicated himself again, he knows what happened to Haleigh in my opinion.

You are probably right about the charge Elle, DRUGS-TRAFFIC throws me. I forget that can just mean possession of that amount.
 
Are we avoiding what it could mean that Ronald Cummings apparently was using intravenous drugs after Haleigh disappeared? Because, just like Tommy's descent into the drug hell, THIS says a lot to me that her father would also descend.

I think the manipulation of Misty, the threats of killing himself (prior to Haleigh disappearing) and drugs.......These things were a part of Haleigh's life. How do they play in her disappearance and death?
 
What's going on here? According to Misty's father, lead investigator Peggy Cone goes to talk to Hank and Lisa and brings up the story about WBG, the party, the placing of Haleigh in a pond and even tells them there is proof it did happen? Fine. Whatever motives LE may have had for that move, I'm not going to question, but WAIT, we now have Tommy who agrees to testify that Joe had a dead Haleigh in the van! Let's run over there and go with that scenario and spend thousands of dollars on divers at Shell Harbor.

I'd just like to know if anyone has a theory on what LE may be doing? I'm just totally confused.

LE is not releasing anything relevant to the investigation and/or case of Haleigh. All these tapes are interesting to listen to for insight into the players. They may help explain why they did what they did. However, any relevant information related to potential charges for Haleigh is not in those tapes.

Until arrests are made, LE will not be releasing anything pertinent to their investigation that would lead to charges. They could even have enough evidence to charge some players. However, they would hold off on charges until they arrest everyone to keep their investigation private from the defendants as well as the public.

As much as it drives us crazy, in the end it will mean a better chance of justice for Haleigh.
 
Good thing the Statute of Limitations does not apply in this case.
IMO

For murder it doesn't. But, what would happen if they eventually find her alive? Is there a statute of limitations on false police reports? I know most don't think that's a possibility, but what could they arrest them for if she was found alive and the family hid her, other than false police report? Anyone know?
 
For murder it doesn't. But, what would happen if they eventually find her alive? Is there a statute of limitations on false police reports? I know most don't think that's a possibility, but what could they arrest them for if she was found alive and the family hid her, other than false police report? Anyone know?

As long as it is an active investigation, the statute is open.
 
Thank You for your hard work, Papa.

1. RON THREATENING AND ACTING OUT SUICIDE: Think of the fact (and those of us who believe these words of Misty's to be true, spoken under the severe strain of being in jail and having a little time with her Daddy)that this girl witnessed Ron putting a gun to his head. We have Tim Miller's account of Ron doing this in front of Tim (with his little boy present) as corroboration, though I don't find corroboration necessary. It's there, though.

So, we can assume that three children witnessed this at different times, Ron acting out suicide, holding an actual lethal weapon in the room with vulnerable young people under his control.

A sixteen year old girl, who turned 17 and 18 while she was with him. A four year old boy, who witnessed this after losing his sister and probably witnessed it before, as a three-year-old. HaLeigh, too, more than likely witnessed this at least once in her young lifetime. The trauma and the scars would be incredible and that alone could account for Misty's behavior since the crime against HaLeigh occurred.

THINK OF THE FEAR THAT RONALD CUMMINGS INSTILLED IN THESE VULNERABLE YOUNG PEOPLE, two of them his own precious, very young children.

2. USING HALEIGH: Ronald Cummings and his grandmother, Annette Sykes are so low that they would use an innocent five year old girl, their own flesh and blood, to lure a teenager back into this place of terror. The isolation they must have felt, those poor little children and even Misty, as she was sucked back in, probably ashamed and afraid to tell her family the brutal truth about Ron. Since grown women have trouble getting away from these kinds of situations think of a 16/17/18 year old girl, who in the midst of the abuse more than likely witnessed the death of HaLeigh at her father's hands. (This is my opinion).

The Cummings/Sykes/Neves are not above using ANYBODY if it serves whatever purpose they have in mind. Get Misty back so she will babysit those kids so the womenfolk don't have to. Also, keep Ron calm, get Misty back, use precious HaLeigh to do it.

My God, they used HaLeigh AFTER she was GONE, stating, as if what they were saying was perfectly logical and loving: HALEIGH wanted ~ "WANTED," they said, not "wants" ~ Misty and Ron to get married. So they were getting married because of THAT! In the infamous words of Granny Sykes, I say: "That's a CROCK!"

I firmly believe that these three people; Ron, Annette, and Teresa, threatened Misty and coerced her into lying about the events surrounding HaLeigh's death and the hiding of her body. I believe that they threatened Misty, and continue to threaten her and her family. Annette is calling Chelsea Croslin, mentioning Ron's lawyer beeping in on the other line getting all up into their business under the guise of being concerned. During the summer, when Misty mustered the strength and courage to call her family for help, we have Annette Sykes actually pushing Misty's mother back into her vehicle, not allowing this mother to protect her minor child and letting Misty witness what she and Ron would do to her family should she try leaving. Basically, imprisoning this child in the grips of her violent grandson and herself, both of whom she was (and is) intent on protecting.

THESE ARE MY STRONG OPINIONS, BASED UPON ALL WE HAVE HAD TO SEE AND LISTEN TO FROM THIS conscience-challenged, self-serving BUNCH, this paternal side of HaLeigh's family. Hearing young Misty talking to her Dad confirms what so many of us have believed to be close to the truth.


One of the things that I can't stand about this case is the way LE has treated Misty. I know they have a case to solve, but if they had treated Misty like the kid she was, they might have gotten somewhere with her. But instead, they've gone after her like a 50 year old, hardened psychopath. & Ron gets the compassion, the respect, the deference. This is moo, but the whole thing has felt sexist. & I realize that there's a missing child, & there's not much room for political correctness, but this LE & their tactics, leave a bad taste in my mouth. The same thing with Hope. Ron has been in & out of trouble for years, but he goes in, makes friends with the right people, cries & says the 'right' things, & gets a slap on the wrist-if you can even call it a slap-more like a love pat. Hope, & I do believe this is why, got the shaft because she's got a bad attitude, didn't say the right things, & isn't really attractive. Afterwards, we even got to hear what great friends she was with Misty & how tight they were. Oh really??? She wasn't tight with Ronald? Well, I guess my eyes were deceiving me then. IMO, Ron getting out of so much trouble, is a classic case of LE, judges, etc...going easy on a dangerous criminal, & then setting him free to commit worse crimes. If he had been locked up, where he belonged, Haleigh would be with her loved ones, right now.
 
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