NOT GUILTY Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #6

[Megnut]

I personality would be to afraid to but a civil suit against CB could lead to a judgment against him, lower standard. Less inadmissability, I would think.

But not me, I'd be afraid to face that face in the open.

JMO

 

[onemoremiletogo]

If they can’t charge because of admissibility i think it’s likely they’ll release the findings of their investigation. HCW said this in his most recent interview with SF.

If there was some rule against such action I doubt what they found at the box factory would have been on the front page of all the newspapers.

In my view that’s the worst outcome. But it would confirm that MM is deceased & where the photo or video was found & whom the data file belonged to.

Yes, HCW said exactly that to Sandra in a recent interview.

Miserably, they won't get enough to take him to court. Yes, the worst outcome but until September, they may end up disclosing, drop by drop, what they have, the circumstantial evidences (interlinked) about CB's involvement in MM's death, exposing him even more and leaving any other option only to the twilight zone.

They missed the chance to "pressure" him by keeping him locked up for more years and get his confession inside.
It's unlikely to get it from him out here but...

JMO

 

[RichardKimble]

HCW has repeatedly said the evidence is not from the box factory. A Sun docu turned up and all play crazy. Jutta R already used photos of the usb sticks in her documentary years ago and BKA would never give the evidence to some Sun journalists

I think their docu was cobbled together, 12 months in the making which means they started when the trial was ongoing, no doubt sure of a guilty verdict then had to rejig the whole thing.

 

[frank-cole]

Yes, HCW said exactly that to Sandra in a recent interview.

Miserably, they won't get enough to take him to court. Yes, the worst outcome but until September, they may end up disclosing, drop by drop, what they have, the circumstantial evidences (interlinked) about CB's involvement in MM's death, exposing him even more and leaving any other option only to the twilight zone.

They missed the chance to "pressure" him by keeping him locked up for more years and get his confession inside.
It's unlikely to get it from him out here but...

JMO

I think so too. The ‘end game’ is probably going to be that they’re unable to take him to court due to a motion that blocks some evidence they need to use. But they are going to share the results of their investigation with the family and the public.

I think that irrespective of what happens & what the evidence is, there will forever be that shtick dismissing CB’s involvement. That’s in order to preserve business as usual. I don’t think any of us are naive enough to think it’ll be anything different. . .

When they announce what they have that proves murder I’ll probs leave this thread because from a MM case perspective that’ll leave very little left to sleuth about .

 

[frank-cole]

I personality would be to afraid to but a civil suit against CB could lead to a judgment against him, lower standard. Less inadmissability, I would think.

But not me, I'd be afraid to face that face in the open.

JMO

I agree. I think there’ll be a number of other things that happen afterwards.

Imo sometimes when things have been discussed for so long it all becomes a series of replays & perhaps some slowly detach from the realisation that this isn’t a TV show & these are real people involved.

CB is an incredibly dangerous man who has never been deterred from offending after release from prison. He may even have an air of confidence that he can offend freely & not face consequence. Yes we can all point at somebody to blame but in actuality the ‘bad guy’ is CB.

That is the monster coming back to the street - I couldn’t live with myself if I’d have advocated for him to have that freedom because I know full well he will hurt another female.

 

[Davieson]

If/when he regains his freedom, it will be in accordance with the rule of law.
I can't argue with that.
To disregard the law leads to anarchy.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I think so too. The ‘end game’ is probably going to be that they’re unable to take him to court due to a motion that blocks some evidence they need to use. But they are going to share the results of their investigation with the family and the public.

I think that irrespective of what happens & what the evidence is, there will forever be that shtick dismissing CB’s involvement. That’s in order to preserve business as usual. I don’t think any of us are naive enough to think it’ll be anything different. . .

When they announce what they have that proves murder I’ll probs leave this thread because from a MM case perspective that’ll leave very little left to sleuth about .

I don’t see any benefit for the BKA to share information from their investigation so it can be scrutinised by the public.

If they did, it wouldn’t clear up anything. I am sure they don’t have the silver-bullet evidence you think they do.

I think it’s impossible because he’s not responsible.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I think so too. The ‘end game’ is probably going to be that they’re unable to take him to court due to a motion that blocks some evidence they need to use. But they are going to share the results of their investigation with the family and the public.

I think that irrespective of what happens & what the evidence is, there will forever be that shtick dismissing CB’s involvement. That’s in order to preserve business as usual. I don’t think any of us are naive enough to think it’ll be anything different. . .

When they announce what they have that proves murder I’ll probs leave this thread because from a MM case perspective that’ll leave very little left to sleuth about .

Frustratingly for BKA, they were not able and, most likely, they will not be able to get enough to charge him. But if, even sadly, they end up disclosing all the additional circumstantial information they may have, they may have enough for the public to understand them better in their crusade against CB.

They may have enough even to melt the devotion to the absolute and definitive denials that CB is involved. Those that seem to be based on infinite faith that if he is not accused, he cannot be the responsible.

They will not leave room for other logical narratives, some of which that remains but which can only become even more convoluted and/or fictionalized to the absurd.

JMO

 

[frank-cole]

Frustratingly for BKA, they were not able and, most likely, they will not be able to get enough to charge him. But if, even sadly, they end up disclosing all the additional circumstantial information they may have, they may have enough for the public to understand them better in their crusade against CB.

They may have enough even to melt the devotion to the absolute and definitive denials that CB is involved. Those that seem to be based on infinite faith that if he is not accused, he cannot be the responsible.

They will not leave room for other logical narratives, some of which that remains but which can only become even more convoluted and/or fictionalized to the absurd.

JMO

Yes - I think it’s possible the concrete evidence isn’t isolated to that location. IMO 2018 search will have significance.

There is no ceiling for an alt-theorist therefore nothing that’ll change their minds.The debate may on the odd occasion read like sense will prevail but it won’t. They will always set a benchmark of expectations that if not met will be used validate the agenda. The trick is - that the benchmark will always increase beyond the strongest piece of evidence. It’s an evolving game.

I am fascinated by the polarisation of this case though.

 

[Davieson]

Yes - I think it’s possible the concrete evidence isn’t isolated to that location. IMO 2018 search will have significance.

There is no ceiling for an alt-theorist therefore nothing that’ll change their minds.The debate may on the odd occasion read like sense will prevail but it won’t. They will always set a benchmark of expectations that if not met will be used validate the agenda. The trick is - that the benchmark will always increase beyond the strongest piece of evidence. It’s an evolving game.

I am fascinated by the polarisation of this case though.

I blame the internet. Everyone can now express an opinion about everything and have an audience.
And if you don't like what they say, you can troll and insult them with impunity - more or less.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I don’t understand why wanting to see proof is considered alt-theory… whatever that’s meant to mean.

Asking for evidence to support claims underpins the legal system and is core to scientific method - take a look a Carl Sagan’s view on extraordinary claims.

These two processes have been pivotal to modern human development. We live largely safe lives in a technologically advanced world because of skepticism. There is nothing “alt” about this whatsoever - it is fundamentally mainstream.

Based on the available information and an example of evidence from the rape trial all that is known that connects CB to MM is that HeB interpreted a comment from CB as a confession that he abducted MM.

CB is a paedophile. He reregistered a car. A phone he owned at sometime was called somewhere near PDL on the day of the offence - frankly, so what! None of this implicates CB in any crime against MM.

I am skeptical about CB’s involvement because that is the rational, logical, mainstream way to think.

It’s this thinking the helps us understand that the Cottingly Faeries are not real, the world is not flat and blowing cigar smoke up your arse does not cure smallpox or consumption. Once-upon-a-time people believed this nonsense purely because other people - without producing evidence - told them they were true.

I’m okay with being a non-believer until real evidence is produced - I’m confident it can’t be; if it could, we’d have seen it in court.

 

[Niner]

No one answered me - so I will go ahead & post this....

Thursday, May 15th:
*Hearing (@ am CET) - Germany - *Christian Brückner (48) accused of insulting a member of prison staff. Lehrte District Court
5/7/25 Update: Brückner is due in court on Thursday morning 5/15/25 in Lehrte, Lower Saxony, to face the charge of insulting [assaulting] a prison staff member. The precise details of the allegation have not been made public. If found guilty, it could potentially extend his current jail term is due to end in September & would give him an additional year in jail.

 

[frank-cole]

No one answered me - so I will go ahead & post this....

Thursday, May 15th:
*Hearing (@ am CET) - Germany - *Christian Brückner (48) accused of insulting a member of prison staff. Lehrte District Court
5/7/25 Update: Brückner is due in court on Thursday morning 5/15/25 in Lehrte, Lower Saxony, to face the charge of insulting [assaulting] a prison staff member. The precise details of the allegation have not been made public. If found guilty, it could potentially extend his current jail term is due to end in September & would give him an additional year in jail.

Thank you. I think he’ll get a fine that he will be able to pay.

 

[RichardKimble]

No one answered me - so I will go ahead & post this....

Thursday, May 15th:
*Hearing (@ am CET) - Germany - *Christian Brückner (48) accused of insulting a member of prison staff. Lehrte District Court
5/7/25 Update: Brückner is due in court on Thursday morning 5/15/25 in Lehrte, Lower Saxony, to face the charge of insulting [assaulting] a prison staff member. The precise details of the allegation have not been made public. If found guilty, it could potentially extend his current jail term is due to end in September & would give him an additional year in jail.

Thanks niner, no word of it then, anyone?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Am I reading this correctly: the charge is calling a prison officer a joke and a SOAB. Is that even a crime?

Madeleine McCann suspect seen for first time since bombshell Sun doc

MADELEINE McCann prime suspect Christian Brueckner was seen for the first time today since bombshell evidence revelations by The Sun against him. The paedophile appeared in court over verbal assaul…

www.thesun.ie

 

[RichardKimble]

Probation, hurty words it seems.Next February for release it seems, so all those that question how CB can afford defence, he cant.

Brueckner was found guilty of insulting a prison official at Lehrte District Court. He was sentenced to probation and told to pay court costs.

Prosecutors had been hoping Brueckner would be given a new prison term for the jail outburst. The earliest date he can be released from Sehnde prison is September, but his lawyer told The Mirror a more realistic date, due to his inability to pay fines he still owes, is February next year.

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner convicted of 'insulting' jail staff

Christian Brueckner has been convicted of insulting prison guards - the 48-year-old paedophile was hauled before judges in Germany after branding jail staff “a laughing stock”.

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[RichardKimble]

So no doubt there'll be headlines the German prosecutors are in a race to charge over MM before February.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Better if by February instead of September. But weird if only due to pay fines...

 

[frank-cole]

Am I reading this correctly: the charge is calling a prison officer a joke and a SOAB. Is that even a crime?

Madeleine McCann suspect seen for first time since bombshell Sun doc

MADELEINE McCann prime suspect Christian Brueckner was seen for the first time today since bombshell evidence revelations by The Sun against him. The paedophile appeared in court over verbal assaul…

www.thesun.ie

We agree. It shouldn’t be.

 

[frank-cole]

Better if by February instead of September. But weird if only due to pay fines...