*graphic and adult content* Jodi Arias Trial media/ timeline thread **no discussion**

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  • #682
JW appears to have argued with each and every document she has brought to the bench (in her big ol' pile o' documents) . . .

JW and JM are reviewing a document together - judge is taking a look . . . (JM hands it over to the Judge) who is taking nots . . . Judge hands document back to JW . . . who is still making a point about something . . JW takes back the douments . . . but JW reaches in and takes them from the defense . . . .

JW holding up the documents and pointing to specificareas . . waving his hand in front of them (ie:you mean they want to use only a couple of sentences in this document why not the whole thing? . . . see whre it says this ere and this here . . . . ) . .(I am just guessing @ what he might be saying) . . .

A young girl walks up to the bench and takes documents from the Atty's . . . talking to the judge and asking questions and pointing out of the room . . . .Nurmi is up @ the stand whispering to JA in her ear . . . . J whispers back . . . .

JA and Nurmi having a discussion . . . . JA turns around to face forward in her chair . . . .

bring in the Jury . . . JA stands up and waits for Jurors . . . takes a deep breath and raises and lowers her shoulders . . appears to look @ each and every person entering (eyes go back nd forth) she starts to (smile?) no it is a look of disgust?
 
  • #683
JA asks if she sent letters to TA's grandmother on his birthday 2008 . . . she agrees

Maureen Maher - Aug 5 2008? . . . interview . . . . exhibit #470 . . . Jm cues up a DVD

JA takes ff her glasses and wipes her ose . .

48 hr Mystery video clips . . . . I a the only person who will be able to say what happened . . . .I just know if it were my brother I would want to know . . . I feel above all things they deserve to know and hear how it all went down . . . . what his last words were . . . I wrote them a letter . . . I don't know if it will make it or they will read it . .. I called his Grandma . . . . I sent flowers . . . 20 iris's . . . he liked iris, he liked hinkley . . . . I don't know why that is a last name . . .

I sent letter - simple sweet and left my phone number and told them they were in my prayers . . .

in that letter you actually tell them the people who did it were this man and this female . . . you lied to them
yes
you said they deserve to know what happened but you lied
I felt the alternative was worse
you didn't have to send them a letter
no I didn't
didn't have to letter all theses fabrications
no I was encouraged to write it
wasn't your fault
it was you choice to do it - you don't take responsibility
it was my choice
but someone encouraged you
yes - but my choice



Talked about 2 . . .

Aug 2007 and 1/22/08 . . . .
I didn't consider the Aug 2007 one to be acts of physical violence
you came overto his house uninvited
no Icalled him first
you went over and looked in thru sliding glass door
no thru windw
he was making out with an unknown female rehooking he bra
yes
you did go ever there eventhough you were not dating
we weren't exclusive in dating
you said no you weren't dating but he was courting you
we weren't dating but we went on dates
you weren't boyfriend/girlfriend

this is the story when he chased you down the hallway and he grabbed your wrist
yes
then last thurs we talked bout the Jan 2008 . . .

then in March 2008 you told him you were moving to Calif
yes
some sort of tax seminar
yes
you were in the car . . . he reached over after you told him that and he hit you on side of the head
not right after I told him but was not in face

while you guys were arguing about you moving
yes
that is a lie isn't it?
no

Your journal - I have it marked a to that entry . . .
yes

JM producing papers .. . exhibit #471
you approved this to be correct as to the original . . .

JA reading over every line again . . .
wiping her eye . . .
hand on her chin (thinker?)

hand wipes hair back from face. . .

reading
 
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Would you like to compare this to the original?
No thank you
That is a true and accurate copy of the original?
yes

Nurmi . . . we would like to compare it t the original . . .

Nurmi reading over his glasses within about 8" of the document
 
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  • #686
Exhibit #471 for that particular submission . . . JA reviews papers/documents . . .
yes
that is your signature at the end of that submission
just my initials
there is another entry that deals with March 2008 . . . . .
yes
you do that sometimes in your journal
yes
move for the admission of #478?

This is entry for Sun Mar 2, 2008 - day before Sat 3/1 the day before was the last day of Feb . . .
yes
could have been Feb 29th

well I didn't get back t writing last night . . . lets see . . . Friday last day of Feb - I went over to T-Dogs for awhile to clean . . . thereafter went out to go out rock climbing . . . 2 1/2 date went really well. . . . I fell asleep when he returned when he is out on a date . . . .

In August 2007 - same situation you confronted him about it
it was n't same situation - I knew we weren't getting married
relationship was over 3/2?
it wasn't over 3/2
you continued to have intercourse with him
yes - on the love sac upstairs
out side his room
outside all 4 bedrooms . . .
that happened on Friday . . . .next morning on 3/1 he picked you up to go the tax seminar . . date of physical violence?
that is right
he bought me breakfast . . . .on the way back home I told him my plans to move back to Yreka . . . wouldn't be participating in PPL events . . . this will help us both move on and close the gap . .. . what gap are you talking about?
it's a figure of speech . . . close the relationship as far as physical
no more sex?
that was my goal - yes

one of the things I miss AZ - so many awesome Mormons my age - their friendship . . . TA and I talked some more in his car . . . able to say some things at least I was . . . told him how you felt in the car?
yes

he backhanded you in the car
yes
you didn't write it down
I wouldn't have - of course not

you could have written it down - you could have told Det. Flores . . . you had a reason but a different reason not to write it down - it isn't in there and you are telling us it happened . . .
not to me
there is the appearance that it didn't really happen
Objection
Approach
 
  • #687
You didn't write TA backhanded you
No I didn't
then you write - it was beginning of bitter-sweet closing . . . he is my best friend in the whole world . . . the individual who just hit you backhanded you . . .
that was the goal

it is so unimaginable to live away from him . . .
yes
the physical contact was a problem?
part of the problem
it's ok to have Yreka phone sex
not typically
is phone sex ok or not
not ok for our religion

not asking about your religion . . . you can't even tell me about FHE
I work on Mondays
Does Family Home Evening start@ 7pm and go until 8 for about an hour
it depends on the ward
your ward?

it lasted about an hour don't remember start time
7-8 or 7:30 - 8:30
I usually worked on Monday nights
you don't know what happens @ FHE?

I only know what happens at th ones I have attended
Yes or No . . . do youknow what happens

Physical contact with you and Mr. A . . .
part of the physical contact
doesn't say part of . . . does it? It just lays out what happened
lays out what I wrote - yes that is what happened

it says I gave him a kiss and a hug
it doesn't say he hit you
he turned his head out lips meeting

serious of 3 very tender, very slow, very soft kisses
yes
doesn't say anything about thebackhand
of course not

you love his lips . . . . that is what it says
it doesn't say I love his back hand
of course

you wrote all the parts of what happened in this car
just parts I wanted to remember
doesn't say . . . I am only writing the parts I want to remember
parts

went inside an fixed makeup, went to starbucks and got TA a frapachino . . .took it to his house - drove . . . he dropped you off @ your house . . .purpose going back to pick up items he was storing for you . . yes
instead you ended up being naughty again
yes
this is part of the end of the physical contact . . .

seems like youwere into the sex as much as he was
yes

helped him clean up a little morefor his UFC party - the next Sat night . . . you have never been into that activity but were interested
yes

then Lonnie . . .the one youmissed his baptism because you ended up hving sex w/TA . . .

Ufc fight - you were @ home . . . TA called and you both talked for 1.5 hrs til both sleepy . . . . joked about FB . . joked about if you had kidstheir lips would be like Angelina Jolie . ..
yes

@ the very bottom is your signature
yes
This doesn't corroborate what you told us about TA backhanding you
that was the goal
you didn't call the police or tell anyone
no
no corroboration . . .. all we have is your word
and my injuries
let me see a photograph of those and we will put this to bed

I don't have photos
there is no photographic, documented or anecdotal evidence
no
that was my goal . . .
is there any items we could look @
no items - just my word

no documents, no police report, no photos, no medical report
 
  • #688
Exhibit #473 & #472
JA reading thru (lost feed for a minute)

JA is drinking water from her cup
looking down . . . then looking to gallery - her Atty's are reading thru documents

Defense asks to approach
 
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February 25, 2013

Defence CIC

Jodi Arias cross examination by Juan Martinez--Day 2
Afternoon testimony


--Afternoon starts off with lawyers approaching the bench. <Not sure who asked to approach since I was running back to the computer at the time>
--Appears Willmott is doing the bulk of the conversation with the judge.
--This is a loooong sidebar and more than five minutes into it JA is shown leaning on the witness stand with her hand on her forehead. Hard to tell what is going on with her because she has the "hair curtain". She uncovers her face and she has not been crying. She continues to stare into space. Judge hands a piece of paper to Wilmott who then reads it. Wilmott hands it back to the judge who appears to be writing something on it and then hands it back to Wilmott. Martinez hands a paper to the judge who looks at it and places it on her desk in front of Wilmott who is flipping through papers. The judge hands some papers to Nurmi.
--Sidebar ends and Nurmi is at the witness stand whispering to Jodi.
--JM says that in addition to sending flowers JA also sent a letter to TA's family. The letter was written on July 28, 2008. JA says it was TA's birthday.
--JM asking about interviews with 48 hours. JA granted two interviews. Yreka interview was August 5, 2008. JM plays the interview. Exhibit 470.
--Travis' family deserves to know what happened, and since I am the one person....they'll know what went down....if it was my brother I would want to know. I feel that above all things they deserve to know what happened and they deserve to hear what went down. Interviewer asks if she ever reached out to them and told them. JA says that she called his grandmother and expressed her sympathies to her, sent her 20 white irises, chose irises because Travis was one of the names that Travis talked about naming a daughter if he had one. Also wrote the family a letter...something very simple, short and sweet, left her phone number and if they needed anything
--Letter was 18 pages long.
--JA tells the family that the people that did it were a male and a female. JM says so you lied to them. JA says yes...JM says and you put it in writing.
--JM asks JAif they deserved that lie.
--JA wasn't sure because the alternative was worse. The alternative to what was worse? JM says you didn't have to send them a letter where you set out your fabrications did you? JM says that it was actually done to make you feel better. JA says she was encouraged to do it. JA says that it was her choice. JM says that just because somebody encouraged you is that that an excuse to lie?
--re: incidents involving physical violence that she testified to, JM asking her about going over to Travis' house in August 2007...where she went to the back part of his house and looked inside his house and by the light of the television she was able to see he was making out with an unknown female who was rehooking her bra.
--The next day in August 2007 she went to TA's house, they weren't dating, JA says they weren't exclusively dating. JA says it's about terminology, they weren't boyfriend/girlfriend. JM asks JA about TA being with another woman and she feels she has the right to go and confront him.
--JM asking her about another incident from January 2008 where she claims TA broke her finger. Also claimed physical violence in March 2008 when she told TA she was moving to California. They were in the car and arguing and JA claims that TA hit her on the side of the neck. JM asks JA if that were a lie. JA says no. JM reminds her that she kept a journal for that day.
--JM hands JA her journal entries and she reads them to herself.
--Journal entry is from Sunday March 8, 2008. Martinez asks to have the journal entry entered into evidence. Nurmi objects, wants to see the entire journal to see what was removed. Nurmi reads for a while and then asks the judge to approach.
--Exhibit 242.002, journal entry from exhibit 471 (journal)
--JM confirms that JA's signature is there...JA says her initials "JAA".
--Exhibit 471, journal, is admitted into evidence.
--Entry is for Sunday March 2, 2008. "Well, I didn't get back to writing last night, let's see Friday I went over to TDoggs (TA's nickname) for a while to clean and shortly thereafter he went rock climbing with Mimi Hall, their third date, or 2 1/2 really....."
--JM is asking JA whether or not the relationship is over. JA says they weren't getting married.
--JM asks JA where she fell asleep. JA says on the love sac upstairs.
--"we ended up not going but he bought me breakfast......." "On the way back home I told him about my plans to move back to Yreka.........."
--JA says that she was closing the relationship and JM asks her if there would be no more sex.
--"Travis and I talked some more in his car" where is the place where JA says he backhanded her. JA writes about their conversaton in the car but it does not say anything about TA hitting her.
--JA says she would never write that.
--JM is saying it isn't there but you are telling me that it did happen. JM says that because you never wrote anything in there it didn't happen. JM says "it didn't happen did it ma'am". Nurmi objects, argumentative, asks to approach. Another sidebar.
--JM asks JA if she lied about TA backhanding her in the car. JA says that she didn't lie.
--JA writes, it is the beginning of a bittersweet closure...he is my best friend in the whole world". JM asks if she is saying that about an individual that just hit her. JA says "that was the goal".
--JA writes "it is so unimaginable but it has to be this way".
--JM asks if the physical contact was the problem, and JA says it was part of the problem. JM asks her about the phone sex from when she was in Yreka. JA says it's not okay for her religion.
--JM now asking about the Mormon religion, there is family home evening (FHE) meetings on Monday nights. JA says the night depends on the ward. JA says she usually worked on Monday nights.
--JA says she only knows what happens at the FMEs she attended.
--JA writes how she gave TA a hug and then TA turned his head and their lips met. JA writes that it was a series of very tender, very slow kisses. JM asks her if there is anything about a backhand.
<missed a couple of minutes of testimony, due to a phone call>
--Journal entry about helping TA clean up for a UFC party. Then Lonnie is mentioned in the journal.
--JA saw the UFC event at Lonnie's house. Then that evening she got home and TA called and they spoke for 1.5 hours until they were both sleepy. There is no indication in the journal about any physical abuse. JA states in her journal that she loves him. JM asks JA if the journal corroborates what she has accused Travis of doing. JA says "that was the goal".
--JM says there is no corroboration anywhere of the physical abuse.
--JA says that there are her injuries. JM asks her for a photograph of her injuries so they can put this to bed.
--JM asks JA for evidence of these injuries. JA says not to her knowledge. JM asks her if there is any corroboration....any photos...any writings....any police reports....any medical reports? JM says there are some text messages.
--Exhibits 473 & 472: Text messages from the evening of March 1, 2008. The time is 7 hours too fast on the messages. JM asks to enter Exhibit 472. Nurmi asks to approach. Sidebar.
 
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Exhibit admitted

look @ conversation you had with TA on 3/1/08 9:28 pm . . . Hi Sweetie . . I hope you enjoy your party . . . you wrote this after he back handed you in the head
yes

Exhibit #471 where you talk about his (/legs?) and how much you love them
swapping cars back and forth

same in Jan 2008 - swap cars
I believe . . . driving my car

wanted to drive bmw to church
no my car was cooler than that - so no

why did you want to borrow his bmw . . . .
the only time I borrowed his car was todrive the sister missionary's around . . .I only need it for that day and I will bring over

what time did it start
I believe it starte @ 11 . . . .3 hrs

of course

you are the best
and he was the best
I don't know
yu wrote it
it made him feel good
your implication is he wasn't the best
the best @ what
I don't know - you wrote it
yes
to make him feel good
so you were lying he's not the best . . . if he is the best he is the same individual that hit you on the side of the neck
yes
do you see how that is inconsistent?
it was not inconsistent with our pattern

You claim he is the best afterhe hits you on the side of the neck
it was consistent with the apology that followed
you are telling me he was the best when he hit you on the side of the neck
he was the best after he apologized

he apologized
part of the 3 tender kisses
so in the entry - you didn't include he hit you on the side of the neck

with regard to injury to finger on 1/22/08
the photo shows no injury in May 2008
that is not what that shows

the fingers are bent
you say injury to same finger and same injury
that is the same
didn't call police
of course NOT

didn't go to the hospital for medical care - no paperwork . . . you had conversation with Det Flores . . . told him about your bent finger
yes
your prior statements in court said injury didn't happen in Jan 2008 it happened June 4 2008
yes

he grabbed you
he caught my wrist
other than minor pain - nothing else associated with it . . .. you were scared
yes

you flashed back to that specific incident
I can't say flash back - it went thru my mind but it wasn't a flashback
went thru your mind, you thought about it . . .
yes

incident in Aug 2007 didn't hurt
yes

after he grabbed my wrist he pulled me close to him and he apologized to me . .
just because there is this event when he grabs you and apoligzes to you is the event that reminded you . . .
it' the event when I decided to go right instead of left

June 4 2008 - he was very angry, nude, coming after you down hall
yes
reminded you of Aug of 2007
yes
the one where he hugs you an apologizes
he grabbed my wrist and pulls me
you had no fear when he was apologizing
yes
nothing happened after that
nothing dangerous
did he hit you after
no
he's angry when he grabs your wrist
I don't know
you were there - you just told me he was angry
I don't know what his state of mind is

when he let out a scream and palmed the wall . . . ?


in Aug 2007 - that happened downstairs
no
started downstairs
yes

you stayed downstairs
for few moments
you did stay down and you let him do what ever he was going to do
yes
were you afraid of him
yes
if you are afraid you still want to go investigate
he never hit me before at that point

my state of mind was concerned his appeared to be angry
your conclusion that he was angrywas formed downstairs
yes
conclusion he was angry . . . instill a fear in you?
when he palmed the wall - palm on the doorframe - the impact

your scared
yes and concerned also

what damage did he cause to the door?
which door
the door he hit - that is the only one we are talking aout . . .. Aug 2007 was there a photo of his damage to doorframe
no
you didn't tell anybody - no one knows about it
I don't know who he told

In his text messages
in his text to you - he said he hit the door
problems communicating
he didn't hit the door he hit the doorframe
no corroboration he didn't tell anyone he hit door frame

you were not scared enough to stay downstairs
no
you go up and you hear thump-thump-thump sound
yes
I am alarmed and stunned - don't know whats' going on

why alarmed stunned
he hit my car before
it never occurred to you tocall 911
no
he's not any danger to you

when you got there did you perceive any danger to you
not immediately
he's thumping his head on what
the linen closet door
north of the sink - down the hallway where he got his throat slashed

I don' know if it is the same hallway
you have seen the photos?
yes

Lost feed
 
  • #691
Closet doors are kind of flimsy?
I don't know
do they have a lock?
I don't know

accordion door - have one handle - he went away from conversation


He left
no he's still in the house
he hasn't left and gone upstairs - he walked away . . .
Are you having a problem?

objection
afternoon recess

Counsel approach please
 
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Afternoon session after the break . ..
JA w/JM

discussing day in Aug 2007 . . . she was sitting on top of the washer . . . heard this sound . . .
I tentatively walk up to him
tentatively?
how much time elapsed
I didn't go on for a long time . . .before I said his name - I don't know how long as seconds . . . he screamed and had the eyes of a mad man and he screamed What

June 4 2008 - you dropped the camera . .. he said some things to you . . . you saw his face and it was that of a madman
yes
Let's get back to 2007 . . . you said he had this same kind of look . .
yes
what did you do?
I turn and run down the hall
where
The threshold of the carpet . . .
that is same place he had his throat slashed
I don't know
yu saw the pictures
yea

same place . . . . he had look of a mad man
I was not looking @ him - he yanked me forward and squeezed
hard squeeze/
no
then he apologized

that is where it ends
yes
this is the event that goes thru your head right
well when I
yes or no
no

didn't you testify this is the time you were thinking about on 6/4/08
yes
this is the flashback or thought you had from before you know nothing is going to happen
that is not what I said
flashback from Aug 2007 - he didn't hurt you
he didn't hurt me at all

not after he broke my finger, hit me and choked me unconscious

he choked me until I lost consciousness - the week before I moved
when you stayed wit hhim for a week
it was during that time
when your mother stayed with you
after
no medical or police reports, no one you told back then that backs up this supposed event
I didn't tell anyone about that
all we have to go on is your word
correct
 
  • #694
JM w/ja . . . you and Matt? had conversations bout bruises on the neck . . .
you and MM discussed w/anyone about bruising around the neck.

when was this discussion?
after the incident
where 0n the phone or in person
on the phone
when
just days after

conversation on telephone - 2-3 days after alleged incident happened
it was after he confronted me about them

you had phone conversation this happened @ TA's home before you left . .
yes
you left
that weekend
you had telephone conversation wMatt McCartney
not that one

I thought you about the time he confronted me
I am asking about telephone conversation - you tell him about this bruising
yes
2-3 days after the choking . . . he wouldn't be able to see your injuries over the phone
no because I was in Yreka by then
2-3 days on the telephone

I went to see Matt in AZ after I left with the Uhaul truck . . . about 2--3 days

there was telephone call 2-3 days after I left about the bruises - I was confused

there was no discussion . . (I cannot keep up!!!!! I am exhausted)

No there was NO telephone call w/McCartney some 2-3 days after you left about bruises
there was none

left Wed, thurs or Friday . . . didn't stay for the whole event
turn around . . . time of actual meeting
have to look @ dates and text messages
the answer is no
I'm thinking probably not
you don't know
not for sure


you take off and go up to calif . .
yes
take the 10
first the 60 then th 10

proceed to Southern Calif
what time of day did you leave
I don' remember - 5 or 6 - sun was still up but at an angle - late afternoon
how long with Mr. Searcy?
an hour maybe?
slept in the truck right?
I drove for awhile -could have been the next night or the previous one I don't remember

during the day you slept in the truck
at night
It couldn't have been @ night . . . you said it was 5 or 6 pm . . . the time you left you got to calif . . . the sun was going down . . .
sun was nt going down
so it was 4 in the afternoon
you would have had to left in the morning not the afternoon
if didn't sleep . . don't remember if I slept on the trip
day or night
don't remember - it was broken up I slept in day and night
you were in Holister
I know I was there when I got long text message
spend the night there right?
yes
what time get up
don't know
where is holister in relation to Monterray
about an hour
youget up next day . . . go to sis . . did you see Matt then
yes
he was down in Hollister
he lived in seaside?
no pacific road
seaside?
yes

holister is kindof northeast
so it is above monterray
yes
before you got to your sister's house you met up with matt
yes
where
I stayed. . . I can't remember where I slept but I remember going tomatt's house and daryls with my uhaul truck in the morning.

but I thought your sister lives in holister which is north of the monterray area
I know I stopped there before my sister
light outside
I think so I think we had dinner

what time did you meet these individuals in the morning or afternoon
morning
who meet first
matt
his house where he was living with other individuals
yes

did Mr. Brewer see bruises
no I had makeup

After I woke up I went to see matt - some of the make uprubbed off . . . matt confronted me on it . . . I put foundation over my legs arms . . . .

you trusted had faith in Matt,
sometimes
sometimes in june
look @ 475 exhibit
 
  • #695
48 hrs mystery video . . .
matt is my friend someone wh would never betray me . . . I couldn't make the phone call . . . one bar

I pulled over at the hoover dam and I called TA . . . it went to voice mail

heard self talking about Matt
yes
he was first person you called on 6/5/08 - he is someone who would never betray you
yes
same individual according you had this affair/relationship with Bianca
that's right
push comes to shove is not going to betray you
that is my hope

#475 move into evidence

Objection
(what about now????)
 
  • #696
If you need a favor he would help you out
thatwould depend on the favor
he's one of your allis right?

#476 - admit 476 based upon previous conversation . . .
which notebook? (nurmi)
6 - previously objected to

476 is admitted

JM plugs something into a computer (thumbdrive?)

48 hrs mystery

friendship - matt and I dated 8 yrs ago .. . 's more like my brother now . . .kissing him or getting intimate with him just freaks me out because he is more like my brother now . . .

this is the same individual who you claim confronted you on the bruises on the neck
Yes (very high pitch soft sound)

relationship with TA . . . wasn't your cup of tea
and the murder you say well it's not my fault
that is not what I said

you were left with no choice
that is how I felt in that moment

let me show you exhibit #245 . . . that is you smiling in that photo
yes
let me have an exhibit marked to see what the reason is
move for admission of exhibit

(photo above is JA's booking photo)

Iwanted to address my mugshot . . . I did a little tilt to my head and gave a little smile . . people on the internet don't understand . . . few reasons I did that . . . I thought wow I have seen lots of that stuff on tv . . I thought what would TA do . . . he would be smiling . .. I knew it would be all over the internet - thought why not . .. I am innocent - no reason t be sad = no reason to be sad . . . everything will be known everything will come out . . . just smile and say cheese

you were smiling
objection
you were doing it for TA
one of the reasons
he's dead - he s not gonna know about it
I believe he would

he is not in this life now - you have no way of knowing what he would do if he were in that situation or not
im not sure
you just made thatpart up
just from what I knew of him
you just want others to not focus on you look over there

you said you were innocent . . . no jury would convict you
reason I said that - I planned to be dead
not in that interview
actually in that interview - you said you had planned to commit suicide before that aired no jury would convict me

innocent of first degree murder
that changes from what you told us in direct exam
nothing changes
you said on inside edition clip . . . reason uttered those words - you were going to commit suicide before matter went to trial


you are not innocent
I am not innocent of that charge
and you wanted to commit suicide
yes

I lived in Big Sur . . .approx. 2months - broken up with TA . . . you decided to move down to Mesa
yes
not where TA is helping you financially
that month it was
which month - you were up there 2 months
the month I moved

Icouldn't have moved here without his assistance
in Palm Desert you were not dependent upon TA financially
in Big Sur you were working at Vantana . . . you were not relying on TA by any means
no

yu made choice of where you were going to move
yes
you said TA was reason you came to AZ
yes

lets see how you put it . . .
 
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JA takes off her glasses, wipes sides of her nose . . . hand to chin . . . showing off the bent finger

main reason wasbecause o TA - he was a very persuasive person . . . became point where didn't hit it off . . . it was because of him I moved there . . .great place where the church is strong and a lot of great wards there . . . I really enjoyed my time there

you are saying it was Mr A who made you move there
yes
you said his fault - he is so persuasive - he convinced me
yes
you didn't want to come
not after I found out how promiscuous he was


What do youmean by fault
what does fault mean to you
culpability
he was culpable to you

you said I had no control
I neversaid that
even though you broken up you move here
there was still some kind of relationship
telephone and mail

you were broken up
yes
June 2007 you broke up with him
yes
you had the the psychological wearwithall to break up with him June 29th

after that you didn't move here to AZ
yes I did
immediately
I said not immediately

you actually moved to Big Sur
I was in Big Sur - 2 months

it was his birthday
one month after you broke up
yes
you moved to an area pretty close to him
yes
moved to a house even closer to him
that is right
even broke up and trust issues

yes

Bobbie (?)
met him @ a county fair . . . . then met him @ football game . . . said not very aggressive and you went up and introduced self . . . you approached him
right
you are in big sur less than 1 mo after breakup - you made decision to come here
you are able to make deiciosn for your self
yes

go up to Bobby and say do you remember me
yes
introduced yourself
yes - something to that effect
a relationship
friendship
become boyfriend/girlfriend
yes
after you broke with him
5 months
after you broke up with him Sept 23 1997 you were working somewhere . . . where were you working
in Yreka @ some restaurant
I think I said the Purple Plum . . .
have trouble remembering where you worked on that day today
yes
but you didn't have trouble before

the week before that date remember where you work
my Dad's restaurant . . . Purple Plum, Grandma's

old man with dogeared bible . . . told you end of world would happen 9/23/97 - thought about Bobby . . .
not immediately but at some point
Bobby wasn't religious - e didn't care
it was a moral responsibility
why would you even care
I cared about his eternal salvation

did you go to them and talk to them
it would have been redundant so no
didn't go to anyone else in highschool with this message didyou
I tried to
not the way you approached bobby -
the way Bobby and I were talking - that wuld be correct
if someone else in highschool told you leave them alone and you would
objection - speculating from 15 years ago

you picked up the phone and told him about impending doomsday
that is why I called him
you identified yourself
yes the first night

you did identify yourself - he hung up on you

reason you were calling 9/23/97 was pending you wanted to let him know - end of the world.
you persisted
I called next night
called one more time

when he hung up on you the first night he didn't an to talk to you . .
I got that impression
if someone hangs up on you - doesn't mean they don't wanna talk to you

could be accidental, problem wih the phone . . .

why didn't you just call right away to make sure not a mechanical malfunction
I think I was kinda shy

didn't stop you from calling the next day . . . or stop you for going up to him @ the football game and introduced you self . . .

called next day after school -
you call and he answers and you say something . . . . immediately upon hearing your voice he hung up on you - didn't say a word . . . then he calls you back few days later - begin to talk - not your fault he actually called you back - it was because he called you back - responsibility
weren't you the one responsible for him calling you back
objection- sustained
he hadn't call you back until after 2 telephone calls - you thought it was end of the world. . .you start relation with Bobby - first you are friends until it becomes more than that - you moved in with him - Jr in high school - shortly before you dropped out . . . you were in school and had a history test. . . . studious and studying . . .

you were studying @ time you were to be in school - because you didn't study
yes
way you presented it - he was being mean to you were you happy he grounded you 3 months
not happy - stunned
stunned enough to move out
the last straw
the reason - you were grounded for 3 months
one of the reasons
then you moved in with Bobby
that is right
you never take responsibility . . .

Done for the evening - meet back tomorrow morning - Jury is excused
 
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