Hurricane Florence - September 2018

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Currently, FEMA is more like advisors who come in to provide advice and assistance to the experienced State operations in place, and to expedite requests for Federal assistance. FEMA has learned its lession. For a small number of FEMA operatives on the ground at the time of a storm be thankful. As I have described above about FEMA's heavy handed flooding of New Orleans with Federal Protective Service security after H. Katrina.

Armed ex-military Blackwater Security FPS personel were providing security at the FEMA public assistance offices at the Jewish Community Center on St Charles Ave. Armed ICE agents responded when the Blackwater FPS agents called for assistance.

When you stepped up in line to the back of the big green army truck for your MREs and water, a FPS guard or National Guardsman armed with an automatic weapon was standing there, in the truck, to keep the crowd in control, just in case. At times the weapon was pointed at the docile line. There was a reason that General Honere was on Canal St. yelling "Weapons Down". (BTW, this happened on my Dad's old Foot Patrol Beat as a Downtown New Orleans Police Department Traffic Cop at the river end of Canal St.)

My Stepson and I were in the New Orleans area at the time of the storm. Myself before and after in Jefferson Parish. He through the whole ordeal, as he tried to evacuate with his family after the storm and could not get out.
He was down at the Morial Convention Center, at one point. He says that it was as bad as reported in the media. He did not like having guns pointed at him, especially by people paid for by his tax dollars.

Most all of the above was reported by the NOLA city newspaper, The Times-picayune.

Please, be careful what you wish for!

ha

in camp when the chef did good we all would start pounding on the table (!) bang bang "we want the chef"

bang bang "we want the chef"

bang bang "we want the chef"

bang bang "we want the chef"

he would come out with his hands up and we all cheered it was hoot

everyone ready:

Bang bang "We want Honore"

Bang bang "We want Honore"

Bang bang "We want Honore"
 
  • #302
Savannah, Georgia / Hilton Head Island? Is that still the path, i know it was when I turned on TWC at 5:00am.

Hilton Head? Oh no....
 
  • #303
Local Jacksonville update. bbm

WEATHER 11 a.m. update Florence with impacts closer to home
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- As of the 11 a.m. advisory Florence is expected to slow down and not make landfall now until early Saturday near Wilmington. Then it's expected to move southwest and may make more than one landfall along the South Carolina coast. By Sunday major impacts may be as close to home as Savannah. Here at home our Georgia Counties turn windy with wind gusts up to 40 mph. All of us including Duval have a higher risk of scattered thunderstorms that may turn severe.

WEATHER 11 a.m. update Florence with impacts closer to home
 
  • #304
"The NHC track has been adjusted southward ... and additional southward adjustment may be warranted in future advisories," the National Hurricane Center said Wednesday.

Speaking of the unusual forecast track, which shows a spin to the south along the South Carolina coast, a Weather Channel meteorologist said, "I've never seen anything like this."

It looks as though the Euro models have been forecasting this run southwards along the coast - the two orange lines:

https://apps.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_06_ens.gif
 
  • #305
At this point in time their warnings are to expect winds around 55 mph -


I think that is why!!

I don't think it is like a heroic thing !

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Haha no not a heroic thing. Just preventing a logistical nightmare. To be fair all afternoon yesterday landfall was predicted near the base. That's why the press picked up on it yesterday.
 
  • #306
This is what happened to us in 1994.. Alberto came in and hovered over our area for days on end dumping over two to three feet of rainfall. It caused us to have a 500 year flood. Over 200 caskets were floating in the river. All bridges were under water. Millions of dollars in damages to homes and businesses. Loss of life was around 65 iirc...due to being swept away in flood waters or from toppling trees. It took over a decade to fully recover in some areas.

Now Florence is going to be much much worse than what we experienced. With it possible to affect so many states this could be a major problem restoring power.

These states including Georgia are usually the states who sends power teams to restore power but if they are without power themselves hopefully other states will come into to assist those in need.

According to the local Memphis TV news MLGW, the utility company for the Memphis metro area, has instructed its line gang crews to pack a bag for a week, as MLGW is sending a convoy of trucks and linesmen to the affected area.

Around the country, most utility companies provide this kind of mutual assistance if they possibly can, after natural disasters. If they could have driven there, I'm sure they would have done the same for Puerto Rico!

After H. Katrina, a very kind Vermont State Trooper provided security at the wake of my Stepgrandchild, in Picayune MS, after she was murdered by her parents a month after the storm. There were concerns about the behavior of the incarcerated Stepfather's family, if they showed up. The local Sheriff's Department assigned the detail to the Trooper. LE from around the country provided assistance to LE in the storm ravaged areas across Mississippi and Louisiana.
 
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See Maria for details --

this used to be America -- life was important than money

I wish Honore would come out of retirement for a couple of weeks

You cried when you finally saw a lot of stuff finally happening

Imo, if most are all honest PR was a travesty waiting to happen long before Maria hit. Their power grid was already so unstable with blackouts occurring way before Maria happened. They continued to be antiquated with an old system prone to failure.

Why would they still have most of their power above ground knowing full well any hurricane would produce horrendous results? What did the PR power company do with all of the money? Weren't they already in bankruptcy even before Maria?

I cant even comprehend how long it would take to completely rebuild the power grid everywhere in PR. Wasn't there talk about so much corruption in PR?

Thank goodness the states in the path of Florence have continued to upgrade their power systems where it will be able to be repaired and back up much quicker.

Where I live most all of the power cables are underground and were updated from above/overhead power lines decades ago.
 
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  • #309
It seems I keep reading different info as to where it make make landfall, is it changing too often to accurately predict?

I’m worried about anyone who stays , even if they aren’t sure that they might need to evacuate, won’t it be too late if they wait to find out at the last minute? The Hilton Head mayor said no mandatory evacuation but “ it might be possible “. I’m like Oh No! Why do they do this?

My opinion, Please be safe everyone and leave anyway!
 
  • #310
I dont know there scene

would you pls ask your friend if she was already on the fringe of the hurricane? Nothing has changed as it relates to landfall.

here they are again CNN the track has changed

the track has not changed until after landfall

there is a difference

My understanding is that they were on the northern fringes just north of the end of Albemarle Sound (near the VA border) and originally planned to stay put. There was no mandatory evacuation in their county. Whatever was said by the N.C. government yesterday morning caused their decision to get ready to leave out of an abundance of caution regarding flooding. I thought all day that they were on the road. The shifting south after landfall model is what made them decide to stay, and she texted me this morning. I’m supporting their decision and hoping for the best. But I will not be surprised if there are trees downed across flooded roads as there have been during past lesser storms. They may be stuck at home for a few days, but are well equipped. It’s the quick change of predicted course that makes me nervous.
 
  • #311
According to the local Memphis TV news MLGW, the utility company for the Memphis metro area, has instructed its line gang crews to pack a bag for a week, as MLGW is sending a convoy of trucks and linesmen to the affected area.

Around the country, most utility companies provide this kind of mutual assistance if they possibly can, after natural disasters. If they could have driven there, I'm sure they would have done the same for Puerto Rico!

After H. Katrina, a very kind Vermont State Trooper provided security at the wake of my Stepgrandchild, in Picayune MS, after she was murdered by her parents a month after the storm. There were concerns about the behavior of the incarcerated Stepfather's family, if they showed up. The local Sheriff's Department assigned the detail to the Trooper. LE from around the country provided assistance to LE in the storm ravaged areas across Mississippi and Louisiana.

The convoys are increible! Charley was first time i experienced one. I experienced it on regular roads not interestates.

It was so cool. I wish i could have found a video on a regular street!

Like a half a mile of em . really neat to see how they go around - the first truck moves over to like the left to prepare to make a turn and 100's of em after the lead one move over left!

It was like a ballet!

I froze water bottles and gave em out to em it was hot -- hey in some instances nice looking hot sweaty men!

people beeped there horns at em they were our heroes!!

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Where is thing headed?

If I may, put up some humor here right now to address your question

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  • #314
If I may, put up some humor here right now to address your question

At least this time none of the local sheriffs are advising the natives not to shoot at the hurricane.
 
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“"This is not going to be a glancing blow. ... This is going to be a Mike Tyson punch to the Carolina coast" from Thursday into the weekend, Federal Emergency Management Agency associate administrator Jeff Byard said Wednesday morning.
"Today is the last good day to evacuate," he warned.“

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/12/us...t-coast-wxc/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/
Hurricane Florence's 'Mike Tyson punch' is shaping up to deliver disaster for days to the Carolina coast
 
  • #318
MSNBC is saying landfall probably Wrightsville Beach, NC.
 
  • #319
(O/T, we have seen weather unearth remains in the past.

Maybe this will being Heather Elvis and/or Brittanee Drexel closer to being found.)

Good luck to all of WS members in Florence’ path.
 
  • #320
Why do people stay? Because they won't be able to get back for weeks? What good is your house, surrounded by water, no drinking water, no power, if you are lucky enough to survive the storm that is.

it's not worth it.
 

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