IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #28

[otto]

But haven't those accusations been going on since July?

Since July, Police have said that Lyric's non-custodial, natural parents are not suspects. I'm inclined to believe the police.

 

[otto]

I think it is possible that someone known via drugs could be responsible.

Absolutely. It's possible that the person responsible for the murders is a drug user, a drug addict, lives in Evansdale, maybe crossed paths with other drug users, may be a white collar bank manager, may be a teacher ... that's all possible. If it's a drughead, it's an organized one ... one that can grab the girls from a secluded location, leave them in a secluded location and evade detection for months.

Organized meth-head drug addict seems like an oxymoron.

 

[jenandemmie]

organized meth-head drug addict seems like an oxymoron.

exactly!

 

[Unique444]

Since July, Police have said that Lyric's non-custodial, natural parents are not suspects. I'm inclined to believe the police.

Not to argue or anything I just wasn't aware that any of them have been cleared. Do you have a link to that please?

 

[Squeeze]

Ty... I hadn't been aware that their fb pages had been shut down.

Please understand this is only a guess on my part, but perhaps they've sadly discovered that the bright "15 minutes of fame/glory" (e.g. unquestioned adoration) is fleeting...

More like they've realized how utterly insensitive and hurtful others' flippant comments can be. Better for them to be off Facebook for that reason, I guess. Surround themselves with people who truly care.

 

[Fukiyama]

I did hear the Dan was arrested for probation violations - that was on the news (but again not by KCRG!) ; minor violations imo. My immediate thought was and still is: is this beginning of a series of events involving Dan that will only escalate, as it did for another father in a similar child case we are familiar with. So ... we know LE is busy watching Dan, whatever else they are doing or not doing!
:jail:

George, what do you have against KCRG? I watch Midday News just about everyday and they reported Dan's arrest the day after it happened. And yes, they still do Operation Quickfind reports as well.

 

[NWLady]

I'm unsure of what is meant by the portion BBM. Allen Hospital was not part of any court-ordered treatment plan and the document states that he was "released the same day" which tells me only that he was released, not that he was released AMA. Actually, I'm surprised that this part of the information was released to the public at all since it was not part of any court-ordered treatment. It seems like it would be a HIPPA violation to have that information printed in the newspaper.

Ok, I stand corrected, the article does say Daniel was “released the same day” versus “left later that day” as I put in my post, I apologize. However, it really makes no difference as the point was he was not admitted and treated on an inpatient basis, and actually the proper terminology should have been that he was “discharged” the same day. Of note, I made no mention referring to he left “AMA”
I have been in the medical profession for almost 25 years. I am very well aware of what AMA is and HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act), not HIPPA. HIPAA involves many, many quite extensive guidelines, recommendations, rules, etc. So much so, that most medical facilities have “HIPAA Compliance Officers” whose jobs are solely to see that their facilities are meeting all the necesssary guidelines etc. However, there is no need to discuss it any further as it has nothing to do with my earlier post that you are referring to. The end of the article sums up the point I was trying to make: “Based on the fact the defendant continues to involve himself in drug use while pending charges involving manufacturing and delivering drugs, he should be considered dangerous to the community and himself. It is recommended a warrant be issued and the defendant's Pre-Trial Release be terminated by the court.”

http://www.kwwl.com/story/21136773/2013/02/12/dan-morrissey-tests-positive-for-drugs

 

[NWLady]

Children from every socio-ecomonic group have been abducted and murdered. In this case, the custodial parents of the murdered children were not drug addicts. The non-custodial, natural parents of one of the two murdered children are drug addicts.

I do not see any logical connection between the activities of the non-custodial parents and the murders of Elizabeth and Lyric. If there is a connection, I would like an explanation that goes beyond the fact that the non-custodial parents are drug addicts.

Otto, you seem to have a way of taking people's posts/ideas/comments and turning them around in attempts to make things appear to come across as something different than what has actually been posted. To answer your questions, wasn't there “noncustodial parents” present in the same household of either of the girls? Lyric did not have a “noncustodial parent” OR a custodial parent, rather it was her grandmother.

Also, didn't LE feel Daniel and Misty's criminal histories and/or activities may have played a part in the abduction/murder of Elizabeth and Lyric? Not Daniel and Misty themselves, I am not naming them as suspects, it is their “criminal history” that has played a part.
Drew and Heather also have discussed in their interviews etc that they can or cannot rule out other family members criminal histories or things in the past, etc. playing a part in this as well. I'm quite sure it wouldn't be too difficult to find the links to support this; however, it is not worth wasting my time on.

 

[otto]

Not to argue or anything I just wasn't aware that any of them have been cleared. Do you have a link to that please?

A couple of days ago, I posted a link to the statement from police that the divorced, non-custordial, natural parents of Lyric are not considered suspects, but that police were interested in interviewing those two people because of their drug connections ... to ensure that no stone was unturned.

Here's one link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...faces-possible-trial-amid-search-for-cousins/

Another: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dan-morrisey-missing-iowa-cousins-trial_n_1710117.html

Search google: "dan morrissey" not a suspect

The standard response to this police statement is: "But ... sometimes police say that someone is not a suspect and then that person is arrested." No case is ever cited, but that claim is consistently used to discredit the police statement.

 

[otto]

Otto, you seem to have a way of taking people's posts/ideas/comments and turning them around in attempts to make things appear to come across as something different than what has actually been posted. To answer your questions, wasn't there “noncustodial parents” present in the same household of either of the girls? Lyric did not have a “noncustodial parent” OR a custodial parent, rather it was her grandmother.

Also, didn't LE feel Daniel and Misty's criminal histories and/or activities may have played a part in the abduction/murder of Elizabeth and Lyric? Not Daniel and Misty themselves, I am not naming them as suspects, it is their “criminal history” that has played a part.
Drew and Heather also have discussed in their interviews etc that they can or cannot rule out other family members criminal histories or things in the past, etc. playing a part in this as well. I'm quite sure it wouldn't be too difficult to find the links to support this; however, it is not worth wasting my time on.

Lyric's custodial parent was her grandmother. She was in the care of her grandmother for years.

Dan and Misty were Lyric's divorced, non-custodial, natural parents.

"Investigators have been closely scrutinizing Dan and Misty Morrissey and have subjected both of them to multiple polygraph tests. At the same time, they say they are not considered suspects in the case and are looking into their backgrounds and associates only so as not to discount any possible leads."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dan-morrisey-missing-iowa-cousins-trial_n_1710117.html

 

[threecrazykids]

A couple of days ago, I posted a link to the statement from police that the divorced, non-custordial, natural parents of Lyric are not considered suspects, but that police were interested in interviewing those two people because of their drug connections ... to ensure that no stone was unturned.

Here's one link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...faces-possible-trial-amid-search-for-cousins/

Another: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dan-morrisey-missing-iowa-cousins-trial_n_1710117.html

Search google: "dan morrissey" not a suspect

The standard response to this police statement is: "But ... sometimes police say that someone is not a suspect and then that person is arrested." No case is ever cited, but that claim is consistently used to discredit the police statement.

Fyi...I don't believe Dan and Misty are legally divorced. They weren't together but I know in the interview I had posted with Grandma Wylma she stated that they (not sure which one) was planning on filing for divorce. However, from what I've read...they are still legally married I believe, although not a couple.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Fyi...I don't believe Dan and Misty are legally divorced. They weren't together but I know in the interview I had posted with Grandma Wylma she stated that they (not sure which one) was planning on filing for divorce. However, from what I've read...they are still legally married I believe, although not a couple.

You are right, at the time the girls were abducted Misty and Dan were still married, and I've read nothing to indicate they have gotten divorced since then.

 

[JaimeInLA]

A couple of days ago, I posted a link to the statement from police that the divorced, non-custordial, natural parents of Lyric are not considered suspects, but that police were interested in interviewing those two people because of their drug connections ... to ensure that no stone was unturned.

Here's one link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...faces-possible-trial-amid-search-for-cousins/

Another: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dan-morrisey-missing-iowa-cousins-trial_n_1710117.html

Search google: "dan morrissey" not a suspect

The standard response to this police statement is: "But ... sometimes police say that someone is not a suspect and then that person is arrested." No case is ever cited, but that claim is consistently used to discredit the police statement.

You didn't answer the question, which was, have any of the parents been cleared. For the millionth time, "not a suspect" is VERY different from "cleared." The answer to the question is NO. The parents have NOT been cleared.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Since July, Police have said that Lyric's non-custodial, natural parents are not suspects. I'm inclined to believe the police.

I meant accusations by the public.

 

[Marilynilpa]

A couple of days ago, I posted a link to the statement from police that the divorced, non-custordial, natural parents of Lyric are not considered suspects, but that police were interested in interviewing those two people because of their drug connections ... to ensure that no stone was unturned.

Here's one link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...faces-possible-trial-amid-search-for-cousins/

Another: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dan-morrisey-missing-iowa-cousins-trial_n_1710117.html

Search google: "dan morrissey" not a suspect

The standard response to this police statement is: "But ... sometimes police say that someone is not a suspect and then that person is arrested." No case is ever cited, but that claim is consistently used to discredit the police statement.

BBM

I never cited anything because it happens frequently enough that I felt anyone who keeps up with murder cases here and elsewhere has probably run across several cases where the person ultimately arrested in a case was at first declared "not a suspect". JMO. However, if you need a case, start out with O.J. Simpson. He was originally declared not a suspect.

Here's a quote:

A Los Angeles police detective testified today that O. J. Simpson was not initially a suspect in the killing of his former wife and her friend and that, in fact, the department made special efforts to inform him personally of her death, reunite him with his children and protect him from the trauma of seeing the crime scene.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/16/us/jury-told-simpson-wasn-t-suspect-at-first.html

Here's another - Scott Peterson:

On December 27, 2002, the authorities essentially determined that Scott Peterson had murdered his wife. They did not call Scott Peterson a murder suspect but members of the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department were searching for a dead body and when officers served a warrant to search Laci's home, they cordoned off the Peterson house with crime-scene tape and actions speak louder than words.

http://surftofind.com/scott

If you need other examples, let me know and I will provide you with as many as you need. They aren't that hard to find. JMO.

ETA: I'm not pointing fingers at Dan or anyone else - just trying to provide supporting cites for the fact that there are people who are initially declared not a suspect, only to be charged for the crime.

 

[otto]

You didn't answer the question, which was, have any of the parents been cleared. For the millionth time, "not a suspect" is VERY different from "cleared." The answer to the question is NO. The parents have NOT been cleared.

Per the police statement: Dan Morrissey and Misty Cook are not considered to be suspects. That's good enough for me.

 

[NWLady]

Lyric's custodial parent was her grandmother. She was in the care of her grandmother for years.

Dan and Misty were Lyric's divorced, non-custodial, natural parents.

"Investigators have been closely scrutinizing Dan and Misty Morrissey and have subjected both of them to multiple polygraph tests. At the same time, they say they are not considered suspects in the case and are looking into their backgrounds and associates only so as not to discount any possible leads."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/dan-morrisey-missing-iowa-cousins-trial_n_1710117.html

My point exactly - She was in the care of her grandmother for years. Yes, you are right, (for legality purposes), Wylma was Lyric's "custodial parent."

Dan and Misty = Lyric's biological/natural/non-custodial parents.
(I did not know they were divorced). Thank you for that.

 

[otto]

I meant accusations by the public.

Sorry ... of course some people have jumped to the conclusion that because Misty and Dan are drug addicts, they must be involved in the murders of their daughter and her cousin.

 

[otto]

My point exactly - She was in the care of her grandmother for years. Yes, you are right, (for legality purposes), Wylma was Lyric's "custodial parent."

Dan and Misty = Lyric's biological/natural/non-custodial parents.
(I did not know they were divorced). Thank you for that.

I may be mistaken about them being divorced. I read months ago that they were in the process of divorce and assumed that it must be done by now. Perhaps they're dragging their feet on the paperwork.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I am very surprised that Heather would read online comments about the case. It just seems very risky. Comments about cases are never 100% positive. I have read comments about a case, and got very offended, and I wasn't even related to the victim. I have no idea why she would read comments on the CVM page.

Heck, someone even posted a huge paragraph about why Heather is a "bad mother" (their words), and basically, an all-around horrible person. I really hope Heather did not read that comment.