ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 44

[Strong1]

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and I know everyone is excited that LE made an arrest. However, at this point he is still a suspect and with that comes innocent until proven guilty. We haven't seen what evidence that LE has and I feel we need to remember that.

 

[Sheila Terranova]

That Daily Mail article about him stalking the 4 roommates doesn't ring true to me. He had just moved to Pullman. The 2 survivors had just moved into 1122 King in August if I remember correctly. Why stalk those 4 when there are 6? He didn't exactly know any of them well. JMO

I’m just guessing, but I doubt he was stalking Ethan and his girlfriend. i suspect he was stalking Maddie and or Kaylee, both of them, or either one. He didn’t bother the two survivors so I’d eliminate those two. Just guessing.But the time frame works. He came to school in August. When you go to a new school it’s pretty common to seek friends and relationships, obviously not to murder them, thats insane and evil. My mother warned me when I went to college that the upperclassmen would “rush“ me, 1940s speak, so be ready for a lot of male attention. But if he was checking out the restaurants and bars and noticed either of these two girls inSeptember snd became attracted, the time line works. He could have become increasingly interested to the point where he actually was following one or both of them. I think Ethan being around so much eliminates Xana but you never know.

 

[sunshineray]

Reading so much here and there about how intelligent BCK is thought to be because of his schooling and degrees. To my mind he's sorely lacking practical intelligence. Being intelligent is relative. You can beat someone at chess every time but can you pick up clues from other humans and adapt to life in general, which is much more challenging than a board game. So an example, Bobby Fischer was extremely intelligent but then really lacking in intelligence in practical ways. I think BCK seems to be of that mold also. I don't think he has any cleverness worth a dang. AJMO

 

[General wooster]

IMO- the car was apparently his mother’s so he couldn’t up and sell it on his own (need to transfer the title, etc.) So in order to distance himself from that scrutiny, parents need to be involved somewhat.

Also, if reports of past heroin addiction (and subsequent rehab) are to be believed, I think it’s safe to assume his folks might be more concerned with his well-being. Also sounds like this is his first attempt at living alone long-distance from them, so there’s that. Seems like kids these days take a bit longer to “launch” & from all accounts his parents were good people, so they may have been a little more “hands-on” than we might normally expect at that age. Just my opinion.

Where is verification of any addiction?

 

[kittythehare]

I want him to sit in a cell with life size photos of the four he killed laughing & enjoying life staring at him during every moment of his future existence.

They matter. He OTOH is merely a postscript in history. To live well is everything he is not.

RIP, Xana, Ethan, Maddie & Kaylee. Your lights still shine.

I doubt very much they would bother him in the least.

I'm not 'feelin' it' with this guy.

all I see with him is nothingness.

 

[Curious Me]

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s family standing by son

The family of accused Idaho murderer Bryan Kohberger is standing by their son in an effort to “promote his presumption of innocence,” they said Sunday in their first public statement.

nypost.com

Accused University of Idaho murderer Bryan Kohberger ‘never slept’

“He’s normally a very late-night person, going to the bathroom and vacuuming at 1 or 12 in the morning,” the neighbor said.

nypost.com

Kohberger, who was studying criminology at Washington State University Pullman, was living in student housing that was usually meant for Ph.D students with families. He moved there in August, the neighbor said.

“At first he moved in by himself and we thought his family would come later, but he lived there alone,” she recalled.

She said she once saw someone who looked like another young female student get out of Kohberger’s white car, but they parted ways and went to their own apartments.
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The neighbor, also a graduate student, said she and the accused killer would say hello to each other in passing, and she once heard Kohberger bring a woman home. She didn’t see the woman, but the walls are thin so she heard Kohberger and the woman talking. BBM

 

[Sheila Terranova]

I want him to sit in a cell with life size photos of the four he killed laughing & enjoying life staring at him during every moment of his future existence.

They matter. He OTOH is merely a postscript in history. To live well is everything he is not.

RIP, Xana, Ethan, Maddie & Kaylee. Your lights still shine.

No photos of them please. He’d enjoy it.

 

[cheetostock]

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and I know everyone is excited that LE made an arrest. However, at this point he is still a suspect and with that comes innocent until proven guilty. We haven't seen what evidence that LE has and I feel we need to remember that.

Especially considering really nothing has been released by law enforcement.

 

[Sachi]

I want him to sit in a cell with life size photos of the four he killed laughing & enjoying life staring at him during every moment of his future existence.

They matter. He OTOH is merely a postscript in history. To live well is everything he is not.

RIP, Xana, Ethan, Maddie & Kaylee. Your lights still shine.

Same, Ty

 

[NottaYutz]

STRICTLY OPINION:

I’m beginning to think he planned this all along including a variety of defense scenarios hoping that someone like Dr Katherine Ramsland would write a book about him.

That may not have been his original goal, but somewhere along his educational path while in college the more he learned about killers the more they began to intrigue him. If all the stories about him being awkward and not fitting in just imagine how superior he would feel ‘if a book was written about him and how clever he was and how many LE and FBI personnel were needed to apprehend him!’( my speculation on his feelings)

I don’t think it would matter who wrote the book, I used her name because of the college affiliation.

All just my opinion

I see your point, yet I would think he truly believed he would get away with it, and perhaps he was betting his thesis would get him a plum job with the FBI's profiling team (however, I don't think he would have passed their mental health exams).

 

[Ksfarmer8]

When a person is in grad school it frequently puts them in a position and their parents in the position of delayed emanicipation. My ex was a specialist in the medical field with several graduate degrees and his,parents helped him through schools till he was done. My daughter has three degrees and it was the same. Until they are done with school, many parents help,out both financially and physically. (Sure I can pick you up. Hey let me help you move). My child who did not go to grad school had an uncomfortable break up involving a baby and I asked my daughter to go half way across the country and drive home with him. She did. BK is a PHD student in his late twenties. The parents are behaving pretty normally. Grad school is rough financially if you don’t have that support. MOO

My parents must have hated me. I had to work 40 plus hours per week during Grad School, get my own loans and take care of my own finances. I would have been embarrassed to have to have my parents assist me!

 

[cottonweaver]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609711930297708544

 

[kittythehare]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609711930297708544

NN are seriously stretching it.
what next? Santa Claus?
Thanks for the link Cindizzi.

 

[NottaYutz]

It matters to us here, in that we try to sleuth with facts on this site. Does it ultimately matter whether BK wore glove at the grocery store, as was stated? Not at all. But the other claim, that the killer was stalking the victims for weeks before the murders, and that his cell phone pings showed that he was where the girls were very often, well, that matters. If that is not true, and at best it is unsubstantiated rumor, and people here do not know it is that, then it just muddies the waters and eventually becomes "fact" for many posters. I know nothing about the person who made the post on social media, that got picked up by the DM and NYPost, which are accepted sites, but I would be very doubtful that a local cop that surveilled the perp for a couple days, would be privy to those kind of facts of the case, and if he was, I would hope that he would be respectful enough of his profession, that he would not go blabbing such details to "friends". I will continue to file those claims away as rumor, at least unless and until I hear them from a named source. JMO

"But the other claim, that the killer was stalking the victims for weeks before the murders, and that his cell phone pings showed that he was where the girls were very often, well, that matters." I agree.

 

[Copper107]

Yeah, I don’t really think anything is off the table right now until we know more info and get confirmation.

It appears from news reports he had his eyes on each of them.

Bryan Kohberger stalked Idaho victims before murders, wore gloves in grocery store weeks afterward: report

 

[rahod1]

The father’s trip to help him drive home had been planned since the fall, as per BK’s lawyer.

OK...He *needed help* driving home? Question...did he drive OUT ALONE in the first place?

 

[chipwhitley]

I wonder what kind of evidence investigators were able to find in his apartment. Did BK have the foresight to destroy evidence, such as his hard drive? Or did he think he would have some time to come back to destroy or hide any incriminating evidence? It's possible he didn't think at all and wanted to get across the country with that car and hope to trade for a new one or hope the car search would have died down by the time he got back to WA.

 

[tstephens1981]

Where is verification of any addiction?

Idaho murder suspect Kohberger's Pennsylvania classmates say he was 'bright,' awkward, bullied in school

A friend of the suspect arrested in connection with the Idaho quadruple murder told Fox News Digital that the Bryan Christopher Kohlberger she knew was a genius who was interested in what makes "humans tick" but had trouble relating to other peers.

www.foxnews.com

About 2/3 through the article:
“His friend said that he didn't interact with many people on campus but was friendly with her, and they talked "for hours" about his struggles with heroin addiction and his weight and kept in touch after they graduated.”

This is from the WS media thread, there are others. Not officially verified but all over MSM.

 

[Helechawagirl]

I will try.

I cannot find it; I think I misunderstood when chatting about the suicide vest and I asked if he had said something and they said it was protocol in murder cases. I also thought his attorney said something about it but I can’t find it anywhere; I might have confused it with him saying he would waive his extradition, but I could have sworn I saw a quote from a female public defender, but there’s a male being quoted now. Most all of the articles I’ve read essentially copied and pasted the Ap article (there’s a quote about pain and sorry (which I think was supposed to have been “sorrow”) which caught my eye. My apologies.

 

[BrownRice]

Where is verification of any addiction?

No proof of heroin addiction or vegan lifestyle