ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 44

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My parents must have hated me. :) I had to work 40 plus hours per week during Grad School, get my own loans and take care of my own finances. I would have been embarrassed to have to have my parents assist me!
Wait…what are their names?!?!

All kidding aside, it looks like a lot of us have had wildly different experiences personally and with our kids. Personally, I’d happily cook and do crosswords for four days straight with mine but would prefer a root canal over a cross country trip in a white tin can in winter! All MOO, of course!
 
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This is an extremely interesting angle. I was even curious if his name might be tagged on any research papers or additional research studies from DeSales or elsewhere. The professor you mention here might be a good place to start.

Not that I can find.

The professor is a lead author on two articles and a junior author on one. Her junior article is helping survey the literature on lead exposure and a later life of crime over a 30 year period. Her own research is on impact of crime on communities and on community satisfaction with police.
 
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I think he did not have an accomplice. I don’t think he plays well with others, and I think he wanted all the “glory” for himself.
UNLESS he wanted a "fall-guy"....pull in someone he seems to be dumber than himself and lay groundwork for their arrest? Wild speculation.

MOO
 
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I want him to sit in a cell with life size photos of the four he killed laughing & enjoying life staring at him during every moment of his future existence.

They matter. He OTOH is merely a postscript in history. To live well is everything he is not.

RIP, Xana, Ethan, Maddie & Kaylee. Your lights still shine.
I doubt very much they would bother him in the least.

I'm not 'feelin' it' with this guy.

all I see with him is nothingness.

Same, @kittythehare.

IMO staring at their life-sized photos may even give him a lasting feeling of triumph, knowing that he extinguished those laughing people.

Even from a prison cell, given whatever urges prompted his actions, gazing at them endlessly he may be able to relive his fantasies. He might even think it was worth it all in the end.



Jmo
 
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My parents must have hated me. :) I had to work 40 plus hours per week during Grad School, get my own loans and take care of my own finances. I would have been embarrassed to have to have my parents assist me.
No one helped me either but I sure knew a ton of parents backing up grad students. His parents seem fine so far to me, he does not.
 
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Gloves or no gloves shopping in Pennsylvania will have no bearing on the case. It’s really all about Idaho. Evidence gathered there. Stuff that is specific to murder. Linkage.
That's why I posted the article. People were speculating on why he was wearing gloves in Idaho. I posted to inform the first mention of gloves was in PA and not in Idaho where it would be significant.
 
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I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and I know everyone is excited that LE made an arrest. However, at this point he is still a suspect and with that comes innocent until proven guilty. We haven't seen what evidence that LE has and I feel we need to remember that.
Of course. Except there are 44+ pages of entries here that clearly are all about getting the evidence — mostly. We agree, but he didn’t talk about being innocent with his public defender, he talked about being “exonerated “. Difference that a criminologist student knows.
 
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No proof of heroin addiction or vegan lifestyle

Yeah, he's not gonna give us a blood sample. Two aunts say he was vegan 4 years ago (I'll take that, I'm off the fence on that one). But more than one high school classmate mentions the heroin thing.

MSM is reporting about the heroin though, so for our purposes here we can treat it as fact if we wish.



 
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I wonder if he was even aware that his attempts to engage with girls/women seemed "creepy" to them.

He tried to do the same in HS.

That is why he was confused when brewery boss talked to him about his behaviour.

He seems to be obliviuos of social norms - didn't his up floor neighbour complain that BK noisily cleaned his apartment in the middle of the night?

JMO
IMO, BK has weak social skills and is a bit thick headed
 
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I hope they have the right guy. Tremendous pressure on LE to get a suspect.
I still wonder how this all transpired, who was the target, and how did he track who would be there that evening. I sincerely hope someone learns that you better be VERY careful about social media and where you will be, or where you are going, etc. The internet isn't going anywhere fast.
 
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My parents must have hated me. :) I had to work 40 plus hours per week during Grad School, get my own loans and take care of my own finances. I would have been embarrassed to have to have my parents assist me!

In medical school, we weren't allowed to work. I think some graduate programs are the same. Do we know what BK's program's rules were? Maybe he wasn't allowed to hold a job and if that's the case, loans may not cover everything.
 
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Of course. Except there are 44+ pages of entries here that clearly are all about getting the evidence — mostly. We agree, but he didn’t talk about being innocent with his public defender, he talked about being “exonerated “. Difference that a criminologist student knows.

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and I know everyone is excited that LE made an arrest. However, at this point he is still a suspect and with that comes innocent until proven guilty. We haven't seen what evidence that LE has and I feel we need to remember that.
We are treating him as a suspect that is why there are so many speculative comments.
 
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It matters to us here, in that we try to sleuth with facts on this site. Does it ultimately matter whether BK wore glove at the grocery store, as was stated? Not at all. But the other claim, that the killer was stalking the victims for weeks before the murders, and that his cell phone pings showed that he was where the girls were very often, well, that matters. If that is not true, and at best it is unsubstantiated rumor, and people here do not know it is that, then it just muddies the waters and eventually becomes "fact" for many posters. I know nothing about the person who made the post on social media, that got picked up by the DM and NYPost, which are accepted sites, but I would be very doubtful that a local cop that surveilled the perp for a couple days, would be privy to those kind of facts of the case, and if he was, I would hope that he would be respectful enough of his profession, that he would not go blabbing such details to "friends". I will continue to file those claims away as rumor, at least unless and until I hear them from a named source. JMO
AGREE FULLY.

This will be slot in my rumour file.
It's quite insane.
I've never seen media so bad.
 
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"Fox News confirmed through a police source that investigators have only been focused on Kohberger as their suspect "the last few days."

"Genetic genealogy work on DNA left at the scene of the crime was instrumental in leading them to Kohberger, Fox News was told. "

BBM

Wow

Source:
IMO, I wonder if BK stole something from the house, but was not the killer.
 
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I wonder what kind of evidence investigators were able to find in his apartment. Did BK have the foresight to destroy evidence, such as his hard drive? Or did he think he would have some time to come back to destroy or hide any incriminating evidence? It's possible he didn't think at all and wanted to get across the country with that car and hope to trade for a new one or hope the car search would have died down by the time he got back to WA.
Moo. Being more educated now how he operates and miscalculates, it is my guess that he overlooked something, so yes, LE will find more evidence.
 
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I don't think he knew any of them well. And I think he "stalked" a lot more than just those 4. He knew them by sight, may have gone inside the house, but certainly had been in the neighborhood. I believe it's possible he is the source of some of the rumors about this case on other forums, as well. IMO.
Too early to say whether he knew the victims. He might not have known them well or at all but may know of them in some way. Kaylees dad says he sees link of daughter to BK.

 
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In medical school, we weren't allowed to work. I think some graduate programs are the same. Do we know what BK's program's rules were? Maybe he wasn't allowed to hold a job and if that's the case, loans may not cover everything.
My graduate program in literature also strongly dissuaded you from having an outside job. They turned a blind eye to doing some extra tutoring and/or editing for pay beyond our assistantships (especially if it was on campus), particularly after the first semester, but if you had another job on top of the assistantship and the program, you were probably going to get called into an office and questioned for it.

I think it's a pretty common requirement and wouldn't be surprised if his PhD program had that requirement since he had an assistantship. MOO
 
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IMO, I wonder if BK stole something from the house, but was not the killer.
why do you think he might not be the killer?
 
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That's why I posted the article. People were speculating on why he was wearing gloves in Idaho. I posted to inform the first mention of gloves was in PA and not in Idaho where it would be significant.
IMO He was wearing gloves because it was 21F outside.
 
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