Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #65

[indicolite22]

We know that Lori, Chad, Alex and MBP used burner phones to either hide their activities from their spouses or because they were used to further illegal actions. What about ZP? Was she not concerned that her conspiratorial text exchanges with Lori and Chad could eventually get her in trouble with the law? And why there are no known texts involving MG?

 

[altojack]

We know that Lori, Chad, Alex and MBP used burner phones to either hide their activities from their spouses or because they were used to further illegal actions. What about ZP? Was she not concerned that her conspiratorial text exchanges with Lori and Chad could eventually get her in trouble with the law? And why there are no known texts involving MG?

I've been thinking about MG and why there are no known texts involving her. Maybe there's more text info to come through, or, her texts haven't been released for a reason. Just saying.

 

[altojack]

Can anyone check Court site for more documents please? I understand some new ones have been entered. Motions etc.

 

[Niner]

Can anyone check Court site for more documents please? I understand some new ones have been entered. Motions etc.

I'll "tag" @montegrl - she has access.

 

[Sheila Terranova]

Oh wow! I saw this and another creator discuss some of the Chandler stuff. Some of the text messages are just so fascinating IMO. I recently filed some requests for records and got some of this myself but not everything (as the cost was a lot due to the volume), but I’m glad some other places have shared some of the documents. I really appreciate their perspective and also hearing it from others, like Annie C., who just posted a video on the same documents. I don’t know if I scan some of the pages I got and attach here but if/when until I’m able to do that their video shares/shows a lot of the actual documents too so one can read along. So much crazy stuff throughout IMOO.

It was difficult to compile such a list because it was all so surreal, but some of the texts that stood out to me the most were -

05/29/19 @ 1006 hours - Zulema to Lori - “I will go in spirit when the bomb goes off and I`ll be there to see JJ`s spirit to go to presence of the Lord. Then I and the angels will protect the bodies and not allow for them to be possessed by evil.”

05/30/19 @ 1701 hours - Zulema to Lori - I have a feeling that you will have a reason to go back very soon. I am continuing to send storms of fire, fire lightning, fire balls, the light of Christ and the love of HF as our biggest weapons against them. Soon, very soon”

07/8/19 @ 1819 hours - Zulema to Lori - I had to get home so I could get in my portal out there...I asked... if we do that, the ramifications of the things to come, we are not ready for at this time. For what I understand is, that when Hiplos goes, things are going to be a domino effect, one after another. What do we need to do to be ready for all that is coming?”

She needs to be in the mental hospital next to Lori. And /or no wonder they aren’t letting Lori out of the mental ward believing this garbage. But, I’ve known many people who believed similar nonsense and aren’t the slightest bit nuts, just gullible and uneducated….a lethal combination.

 

[Kemug]

Zulema is nuts.

 

[Sheila Terranova]

Zulema is nuts.

And a co conspirator???

 

[nodamselindistress]

Sure sounds like it!

 

[mickey2942]

She needs to be in the mental hospital next to Lori. And /or no wonder they aren’t letting Lori out of the mental ward believing this garbage. But, I’ve known many people who believed similar nonsense and aren’t the slightest bit nuts, just gullible and uneducated….a lethal combination.

Interesting comment. This crime has a lot of religious beliefs/overtones of the LDS faith in general. Back in the '70's the LDS church seemed to have more focus on "prepping" and preparing for "rapture" end of the earth, signs of the times.

In the last 40 years, mainstream LDS faith moved from that focus. INMO. This, from someone who has attended LDS church for over 50 years, went to BYU. No authority or expert, but it definitely is worth noting.

Extremists like LVD and CD generally find themselves being pushed to the edge of the LDS "ward", (church group). They are generally not chosen for any leadership positions, or invited to speak to any groups within the actual church community. Which is probably why CD went to outside groups to sell his books. Being kicked to the curb by Deseret Publishing must have been a huge financial hit.

 

[sassyblue]

• 04/01/2022 Motion
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Subpoena Issued
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Notice
  This is all it says for Lori Vallow

 

[sassyblue]

And for Chad Daybell:

• 04/01/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  Approving Video/Audio Record, Broadcast or Photograph a Court Proceeding
  
  
• 04/19/2022 Motion Hearing
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  
  Comment
  Motion to Reconsider Transport or Transfer of Venue to Ada County
  
  
• 11/09/2022 Pre-trial Conference
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:30 AM
  
  
• 01/09/2023 Jury Trial
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  

 

[indicolite22]

Zulema is nuts.

Or an opportunist.

 

[indicolite22]

Another exclusive interview on the Hidden True Crime yt channel tonight. Description:

Chad Daybell's former neighbor is ready to talk. The crimes that happened in her quiet Idaho town haunt her over two years later, along with the secrets she says are permeating through Fremont County. Bernadine tells HTC host Lauren Matthias what she saw, and why she believes Chad Daybell has more victims.

This should be very interesting. I wonder what she means by "more victims"? More dead people or local members of his cult (the ones that he recruited for the 144k)? Which tier of his belief system were they taught? Surely by now they stopped supporting him.

ETA: Perhaps she means his children who are victims, too.

 

[887sMtreme]

I still have my doubts about Joe, Joseph Ryan. There's something about his death that does not sit right with me.

Remember entry into his apartment was made through an open window on the balcony? There was a screen in place on the inside which had to be removed. I see that in reverse, someone outside on balcony replacing the screen and just closing the window but couldn't close it. All they had to do was have someone on the ground placing a ladder for them to get down.

That whole window thing was odd, I agree. I haven’t read an explanation that makes sense.

 

[887sMtreme]

This was presumably about the anticipated Charles and JJ's car accident. They expected both to die.

I wonder if by the domino effect ZP was alluding to other murders - more than one it seems. BB was probably next. Who else?

Hiplos was their name for Charles.

 

[887sMtreme]

And a co conspirator???

In that orbit, the two go together like Jello and Reddi-wip.

 

[altojack]

@sassyblue thank you for posting upthe motions etc.

 

[altojack]

Another exclusive interview on the Hidden True Crime yt channel tonight. Description:

Chad Daybell's former neighbor is ready to talk. The crimes that happened in her quiet Idaho town haunt her over two years later, along with the secrets she says are permeating through Fremont County. Bernadine tells HTC host Lauren Matthias what she saw, and why she believes Chad Daybell has more victims.

This should be very interesting. I wonder what she means by "more victims"? More dead people or local members of his cult (the ones that he recruited for the 144k)? Which tier of his belief system were they taught? Surely by now they stopped supporting him.

ETA: Perhaps she means his children who are victims, too.

Boggles my mind the more victims. It's just gone midnight here so I can't listen now. Tomorrow is another day, my list is growing.

 

[altojack]

• 04/01/2022 Motion
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Subpoena Issued
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Notice
  This is all it says for Lori Vallow

I wonder what the Subpoena is about? Any ideas?

 

[sassyblue]

No idea. It's a mystery as far as LVD is concerned...since she is "crazy" and all. Maybe a doctor in charge of her needs to speak to the rest of them?