Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #65

[longtimereader]

Does anyone know if it the term "portal" meant a laptop or tablet? They could use Facetime to "meet" and could be taken into the closet for secrecy.

 

[Kemug]

Another exclusive interview on the Hidden True Crime yt channel tonight. Description:

Chad Daybell's former neighbor is ready to talk. The crimes that happened in her quiet Idaho town haunt her over two years later, along with the secrets she says are permeating through Fremont County. Bernadine tells HTC host Lauren Matthias what she saw, and why she believes Chad Daybell has more victims.

This should be very interesting. I wonder what she means by "more victims"? More dead people or local members of his cult (the ones that he recruited for the 144k)? Which tier of his belief system were they taught? Surely by now they stopped supporting him.

ETA: Perhaps she means his children who are victims, too.

I take it to mean actual physical victims who are now dead.

 

[altojack]

I take it to mean actual physical victims who are now dead.

I listened to it earlier this morning. The neighbour Eldon was a very odd man, a thief and a nosy Parker to boot. Odd how he died 6 days after JJ was buried and no Autopsy carried out. What's!!!!

 

[indicolite22]

I listened to it earlier this morning. The neighbour Eldon was a very odd man, a thief and a nosy Parker to boot. Odd how he died 6 days after JJ was buried and no Autopsy carried out. What's!!!!

Is there any indication that Chad or anyone from his group was in close contact with Eldon before hi died (e.g. could have poisoned him)? I think it might be just a local rumor. People die all the time.

 

[altojack]

Is there any indication that Chad or anyone from his group was in close contact with Eldon before hi died (e.g. could have poisoned him)? I think it might be just a local rumor. People die all the time.

According to the old neighbour who was an LDS member, Elder would steal food from many people. He would watch what people were doing. On the Video up page 'Hidden True Crime', it shows how close to the site used for JJs burial is to the bank at the side of the lane where Eldon used to walk up and down.

At this moment I have no reason to believe or disbelieve.

 

[PhoebeTries]

Does anyone know if it the term "portal" meant a laptop or tablet? They could use Facetime to "meet" and could be taken into the closet for secrecy.

I don't think so, as for example Zulema wrote to Lori she had to get home to get to her portal. If it were a laptop or tablet, in theory her car could be a portal too (device + privacy). Also they don't use the portals to speak only to each other but they experience visions there too.
It's bound to a location, for Zulema at least. Maybe the higher-ups could make portals anywhere at anytime.

I want to say IMO but it's my interpretation of their opinion, I don't believe in any of this portal palooza.

 

[indicolite22]

I don't think so, as for example Zulema wrote to Lori she had to get home to get to her portal. If it were a laptop or tablet, in theory her car could be a portal too (device + privacy). Also they don't use the portals to speak only to each other but they experience visions there too.
It's bound to a location, for Zulema at least. Maybe the higher-ups could make portals anywhere at anytime.

I want to say IMO but it's my interpretation of their opinion, I don't believe in any of this portal palooza.

Other people were into portals before Chad, e.g. Mike Stroud. Portals were mentioned in connection with the 144k and the process of translation in the 2012 book "Visions of glory" by John Pontius. That book had a great influence on Chad and his peers.

 

[Satchie]

Other people were into portals before Chad, e.g. Mike Stroud. Portals were mentioned in connection with the 144k and the process of translation in the 2012 book "Visions of glory" by John Pontius. That book had a great influence on Chad and his peers.

What just popped into my mind is the portal through the back of the wardrobe in the Narnia children's books.

I doubt CS Lewis invented the idea. I think it's an old idea from fairy tales and myths about magical hidden doorways in a house or wall, or caves, that only the right type of person can find and pass through.

JMO

 

[altojack]

What just popped into my mind is the portal through the back of the wardrobe in the Narnia children's books.

I doubt CS Lewis invented the idea. I think it's an old idea from fairy tales and myths about magical hidden doorways in a house or wall, or caves, that only the right type of person can find and pass through.

JMO

Yes, I think it's along the lines that you've suggested about coming from myths and only the right type of person can find and use it.

I did wonder if the used the closet to go meditate and just imagine seeing each other to talk. And any other deeds they could imagine doing. JMO

 

[longtimereader]

I don't think so, as for example Zulema wrote to Lori she had to get home to get to her portal. If it were a laptop or tablet, in theory her car could be a portal too (device + privacy). Also they don't use the portals to speak only to each other but they experience visions there too.
It's bound to a location, for Zulema at least. Maybe the higher-ups could make portals anywhere at anytime.

I want to say IMO but it's my interpretation of their opinion, I don't believe in any of this portal palooza.

Thank you for answering my question. I fully understand what you are saying here. I don't think they were the most tech savvy bunch and wondered if they only knew how to use their laptop or ipad on wifi at home. If their burner phones were very simple or if they paid just for texts and calls, they would need to go home to face time on ipads. It's been a while since I thought about what they did in the "portals" but I was thinking that Chad and Lori said they met in the closet portal. Most of his writings and beliefs are pretty juvenile which is why I though he might pretend connecting through facetime was a portal. I think we can find sources for all for all of his ideas in popular tv shows, books and video games. Thank you for your ideas. It will be interesting to learn what investigators find out.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

What just popped into my mind is the portal through the back of the wardrobe in the Narnia children's books.

I doubt CS Lewis invented the idea. I think it's an old idea from fairy tales and myths about magical hidden doorways in a house or wall, or caves, that only the right type of person can find and pass through.

JMO

There HAS been a connection between CS Lewis, and the LDS Church... but what I have found is that he was more negative about it than what people like this writer seem. This is on topic to me, since the "portals' were such a strong component of Chad's teachings...

Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Outraged by The Chronicles of Narnia?

""This week I took my family to see The Chronicles of Narnia, based on the book by one of my favorite Mormon authors. (Well, nearly Mormon. The writings of C.S. Lewis frequently jive with LDS views and he may be the most cited non-LDS author in General Conference.) I left the movie pondering the Atonement and my own treason to Christ and others through sin, and yearned to be more true.""

 

[Trebor5591]

I've been thinking about MG and why there are no known texts involving her. Maybe there's more text info to come through, or, her texts haven't been released for a reason. Just saying.

Who is MG?

 

[pizzaman12]

Who is MG?

Melanie Gibb

 

[Satchie]

There HAS been a connection between CS Lewis, and the LDS Church... but what I have found is that he was more negative about it than what people like this writer seem. This is on topic to me, since the "portals' were such a strong component of Chad's teachings...

Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Outraged by The Chronicles of Narnia?

""This week I took my family to see The Chronicles of Narnia, based on the book by one of my favorite Mormon authors. (Well, nearly Mormon. The writings of C.S. Lewis frequently jive with LDS views and he may be the most cited non-LDS author in General Conference.) I left the movie pondering the Atonement and my own treason to Christ and others through sin, and yearned to be more true.""

That's true, I forgot that Narnia has Christian symbolism. And it seems to be a series that would be read by Mormon children, ie Chad.

JMO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

That's true, I forgot that Narnia has Christian symbolism. And it seems to be a series that would be read by Mormon children, ie Chad.

JMO

so true.

 

[Kemug]

I listened to it earlier this morning. The neighbour Eldon was a very odd man, a thief and a nosy Parker to boot. Odd how he died 6 days after JJ was buried and no Autopsy carried out. What's!!!!

The last thing a murderer wants is a nosy parker right next door.

 

[pizzaman12]

2 new subpoenas issued today in LV case. How can subpoenas be issued in a stayed case? I'm guessing it's for the medical records/reports

• 04/01/2022 Subpoena Issued
  
  
• 04/01/2022 Notice
  
  
• 04/06/2022 Subpoena Issued
  
  
• 04/06/2022 Subpoena Issued

 

[pizzaman12]

Looks like they had a remote hearing today and a scheduling conference tomorrow

• 04/06/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  to Close Hearing and Seal Record
  
  
• 04/06/2022 Notice of Remote Hearing
  
  
• 04/07/2022 Status Conference
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:00 AM
  

 

[pizzaman12]

https://twitter.com/ericevans89/sta...IGqHUyn6w2LiAtyOrd9n-JAWgms9lxpeMXtePgloV52ZU

The IDHW filed a Motion to Seal the Notice of Production of Documents. And, the Order by Judge Boyce sealing it.

 

[Shadowtrix]

Lots of sealing and yet still no inkling as to whether or not LVD's been found competent yet.