IDI and RDI, what do they agree upon?

[Holdontoyourhat]

I think HOTYH summed it up. I suspect that RDI would believe that the case needs more evidence, whereas IDI probably thinks it needs more investigation and based on this more evidence. In other words, there was not enough investigation on the alternative suspects to the R's. In fact, some people, who I would have thought were suspects, were apparently only asked some very superficial questions about themselves and their movements on the night, but were closely questioned about what they knew about the R's.

Again, I don't think we can prove a case against the killer, but there is probably enough evidence to come up with a scenario that leads to the solving of the case. If the authorities choose to take it from there is another question.

Whether IDI or RDI, more evidence would be helpful.

Where to get more evidence? The RN is destroyed and JBR is buried, so maybe the rice is partially cooked. For IDI, the RN comes off as political/socioeconomic with fat cats, SBTC, and Victory! For IDI these become more important leads.

 

[DeeDee249]

Whether IDI or RDI, more evidence would be helpful.

Where to get more evidence? The RN is destroyed and JBR is buried, so maybe the rice is partially cooked. For IDI, the RN comes off as political/socioeconomic with fat cats, SBTC, and Victory! For IDI these become more important leads.

Did the entire RN get destroyed? I know some of the testing methods were destructive, but that note was three pages. I'd have hoped they'd have saved some of it. The cord, too. That was a LONG cord. I would hope they didn't destroy all of it. It could yield skin cells with the new technology- the tape, too.

I thought a special prosecutor had been requested at some point (and denied). Anyone else remember this?

 

[BBB167893]

Whether IDI or RDI, more evidence would be helpful.

You have a point.

Where to get more evidence? The RN is destroyed and JBR is buried, so maybe the rice is partially cooked.

That would be the situation!

 

[MurriFlower]

Whether IDI or RDI, more evidence would be helpful.

Where to get more evidence? The RN is destroyed and JBR is buried, so maybe the rice is partially cooked. For IDI, the RN comes off as political/socioeconomic with fat cats, SBTC, and Victory! For IDI these become more important leads.

I asked you (but so far haven't received a reply) if you knew anything about what countries Access Graphics sold to.

I was wondering if you had considered that the words "the country it serves" may not be referring to the USA, but to another country with whom Access had business dealings? Could it be that the "small foreign faction" was an anti-government faction within another country?

Now I'm really suspicious. A quick Google or two makes me wonder about the risk to personal safety of delving too deeply into Access Graphics business!!

 

[DeeDee249]

I asked you (but so far haven't received a reply) if you knew anything about what countries Access Graphics sold to.

I was wondering if you had considered that the words "the country it serves" may not be referring to the USA, but to another country with whom Access had business dealings? Could it be that the "small foreign faction" was an anti-government faction within another country?

Now I'm really suspicious. A quick Google or two makes me wonder about the risk to personal safety of delving too deeply into Access Graphics business!!

Well... Access Graphics had an office in Amsterdam, though I don't know if it was a country they sold to or had business dealings with. It may just have been another location for an office. Amsterdam allegedly is a large center, and I believe I read that the Access Graphics computers there were searched for kiddie .
I don't recall ever reading whether JR was questioned about why his company had offices there. I would think it was a relevant question, as any intruder suspect would involve a sexual assault on a child.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I asked you (but so far haven't received a reply) if you knew anything about what countries Access Graphics sold to.

I was wondering if you had considered that the words "the country it serves" may not be referring to the USA, but to another country with whom Access had business dealings? Could it be that the "small foreign faction" was an anti-government faction within another country?

Now I'm really suspicious. A quick Google or two makes me wonder about the risk to personal safety of delving too deeply into Access Graphics business!!

Re: what AC does (or did):

http://www.mdlcorp.com/Insoft/news/CN24.html

Based in Boulder, Colorado, Access Graphics is the leader in channel sales and support of UNIX-based distributed computing solutions. Access sells through value-added resellers who target workgroup computing, Internet communications, digital media markets, computer-telephony integrations (CTI), migration and rightsizing applications, computer-aided design (CAD) and document imaging. The company has sales offices throughout the U.S., Canada and Europe. Press announcement and other information about Access are available on the Internet via the World Wide Web at the location http://www.access.com. Access is a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin Corporation headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland

Re: the country that it serves

I believe the RN author is socialist. The single business within a socialist system can have a very different role than in the west. In hard core socialism, businesses are owned by, and therefore serve, the country...period. I'm not surprised by the expression 'country that it serves' at all. In a socialist country, thats what businesses do!

 

[BBB167893]

Now I'm really suspicious. A quick Google or two makes me wonder about the risk to personal safety of delving too deeply into Access Graphics business!!

That might explain why the DA was so reluctant to take on someone who was connected with them...

 

[BBB167893]

In hard core socialism, businesses are owned by, and therefore serve, the country...period. I'm not surprised by the expression 'country that it serves' at all. In a socialist country, thats what businesses do!

I don't know, HOTYH. I've met some socialists, even communists in my time, and to hear them tell it, in any country that is NOT socialist, the governments are slaves to the corporations. That's the whole basis of communism's antipathy to capitalism.

Tell you what. Don't take my word for it. Do a Google search and type in "The History of Stuff." Then get back to me.

 

[MurriFlower]

That might explain why the DA was so reluctant to take on someone who was connected with them...

It answers a lot of questions.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I don't know, HOTYH. I've met some socialists, even communists in my time, and to hear them tell it, in any country that is NOT socialist, the governments are slaves to the corporations. That's the whole basis of communism's antipathy to capitalism.

Tell you what. Don't take my word for it. Do a Google search and type in "The History of Stuff." Then get back to me.

This makes no sense. I agree its possible for governments to be slaves to corporations AND its possible for businesses to be owned by countries. Where's your argument?

Besides, I'm too busy typing in "fat cat bonuses" and "news from 1996."

 

[BBB167893]

This makes no sense.

How do you mean?

I agree it's possible for governments to be slaves to corporations AND its possible for businesses to be owned by countries. Where's your argument?

My argument is that true socialists take an us-vs.-them view. They want all countries to become socialist because they believe socialism is the inevitable destination of mankind and anyone who opposes it is an oppressor and a parasite. Thus, they would not "respect" any business like Access Graphics, because, to them, AG is part of the so-called "military-industrial complex."

Besides this case, politics is one of my hobbies.

Besides, I'm too busy typing in "fat cat bonuses" and "news from 1996."

Whenever you get around to it.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Besides this case, politics is one of my hobbies.

Well, in that case you should be able to easily spot the revolutionary jargon in the note.

 

[BBB167893]

Well, in that case you should be able to easily spot the revolutionary jargon in the note.

More than you know, HOTYH. It allows me to spot how phony it is. It has the pretensions of sounding revolutionary, but it just doesn't hold up when compared to the writings of real revolutionaries.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

More than you know, HOTYH. It allows me to spot how phony it is. It has the pretensions of sounding revolutionary, but it just doesn't hold up when compared to the writings of real revolutionaries.

Safely added to this thread: RDI and IDI agree that the ransom note contains revolutionary jargon. This was also clearly noted by former FBI profiler Clint VanZandt in 1997.

It is not known that the revolutionary jargon is 'phony' however. Thats just your claim. You've no idea what a child killer with socialist ideologies would write as you have no basis for it.

Still, I'm glad we were able to agree on something.

 

[MurriFlower]

Hey guys, I'm still trying to find out where SS the nanny/babysitter went on her 'mission for the Church' for 18 months. South American country perhaps?

 

[BBB167893]

Safely added to this thread: RDI and IDI agree that the ransom note contains revolutionary jargon. This was also clearly noted by former FBI profiler Clint VanZandt in 1997.

Now you're putting words in my mouth, and a lot of other people's mouths.

It is not known that the revolutionary jargon is 'phony' however. Thats just your claim.

Actually, it's not just MY claim. In fact, in the instance you noted, Van Zandt himself said that it was most likely someone trying to sound like a threat. There are a lot more statements from the profilers I'm sure you would NOT find so "agreeable." Just say the word, and they're yours.

You've no idea what a child killer with socialist ideologies would write as you have no basis for it.

Maybe I don't, but the FBI does.

Still, I'm glad we were able to agree on something.

Don't get happy, yet, HOTYH. It's not like it necessarily means anything. Anyone could have picked up the basics living in Boulder, the Hippy Wax Museum come to life. Anybody can write the words.

 

[Tadpole12]

Safely added to this thread: RDI and IDI agree that the ransom note contains revolutionary jargon. This was also clearly noted by former FBI profiler Clint VanZandt in 1997.

It is not known that the revolutionary jargon is 'phony' however. Thats just your claim. You've no idea what a child killer with socialist ideologies would write as you have no basis for it.

Still, I'm glad we were able to agree on something.

Hi Hotyh.

iirc ST commented that the rn was comprised of 'magic words'.

So much can be seen.

It's the patternng of gramatical errors, the repetitive nature of the errors, the vocab groupings, the dialogue, the thematic inclusion of the number three ie is threefold, that are distinguishable and reminiscent of an exercise in creative writing. The rn can be seen as an expansion of a 'standard' text.



The rn is brimming with french thoughts (a group of individuals/un groupe d'individus, represent) and french rooted words, perhaps that patterning reflects a speaker of any romantic language. Brevity in sentence structure and repetition are patterns of ESL.

If ESL, your vocabulary is limited; you use simplistic terms. the words you know, within your limited vocabulary.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

If ESL, your vocabulary is limited; you use simplistic terms. the words you know, within your limited vocabulary.

RDI's oft-touted 'college level' vocabulary, where is it? Where is a single word that is exclusively college level in the RN? Sorry but it seems to me the vocabulary is basic. Really basic.

Please don't confuse vocabulary with composition. There is an argument that the composition and organization is high level, esp. when written within hours of a child murder.

 

[Tadpole12]

Hi Hotyh.

RDI's oft-touted 'college level' vocabulary, where is it? Where is a single word that is exclusively college level in the RN? Sorry but it seems to me the vocabulary is basic. Really basic.

Well, when I reference each word to grade level, some did appear on SAT list. rn not acedemic language.

Please don't confuse vocabulary with composition. There is an argument that the composition and organization is high level, esp. when written within hours of a child murder .

yes.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Hi Hotyh.




Well, when I reference each word to grade level, some did appear on SAT list. rn not acedemic language.

Do you believe that some words are exclusively college level? Which ones?