IL - Actor Jussie Smollett allegedly attacked in hate crime being black & gay Jan 2019 *ARRESTS*

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  • #701
Charlie De Mar‏Verified account @CharlieDeMar 1h1 hour ago


Attorney for the two men arrested in connection to Jussie Smollett case just arrived to meet with her clients. Charges are pending. @cbschicago

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  • #702
The story seemed like a grade B movie script from the beginning:

- The men appear out of nowhere. No build up to the attack. Rather, the men attack immediately while shouting political slogans.
- They just happened to have a rope and also happened to be wearing MAGA hats.
- They escape into the night.... .
Apparently he never did claim the MAGA hats, but the rest of it is problematic.

A premeditated attack in the middle of the night.

These guys would have had to have known that he would run out at 2AM.

They were equipped with a rope and bleach, which is just weird.

Outnumbered two to one by some very well built men, he escapes with superficial injuries.

He claims they were white, and yelled racial epithets.

Incidentally, he has been politically outspoken, and his account of the attack fits perfectly into a narrative that jibes with his views.

These suspects are black, and they know him.

They leave the country hours later, which is a wild coincidence.

I think that people have every right to be skeptical here.
 
  • #703
It took about 2 hrs to go to Subway, buy a sandwich and walk back to his apartment? He didn't eat his sandwich there did he? I thought he had the sandwich in his hand on video entering his apartment building?
Maybe he ate the salad there and the sandwich was for his friend?
That looks like "Receipt-Empire" to me. And look at the guns!
Script-Empire is near the top. Receipt-Empire is closer to the bottom.
I think they are going to roll on him if it's a hoax because I can't see them taking the hit for a hate crime. That's big jail time.
He said-they said?
 
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Law and Order SVU is definitely going to episode based on this.

I do think in the dark after you've been punched in the face and then theres a frenzied attack, if the assailants were wearing black ski masks like he said you could mistake someones ethnicity or make an assumption if they said racial epithets like Jussie claimed.

I still have troubling believing what Jussie said happened could have occurred within a 60 second time frame and given as others have said the build of the suspects, if both of them attacked you at once I don't think you'd walk away easily.


Did anyone else see the tip CWB says they received over a week ago, its been completely proven right so far and they even had the name of the hardware store the clothesline was purchased at. I wonder how far in advance they purchased it, definitely seems premeditated if its correct. CWB Chicago: UPDATE: Smollett "potential persons of interest" went to Lakeview HS; More...
 
  • #706
Law and Order SVU is definitely going to episode based on this.

I do think in the dark after you've been punched in the face and then theres a frenzied attack, if the assailants were wearing black ski masks like he said you could mistake someones ethnicity or make an assumption if they said racial epithets like Jussie claimed.

I still have troubling believing what Jussie said happened could have occurred within a 60 second time frame and given as others have said the build of the suspects, if both of them attacked you at once I don't think you'd walk away easily.


Did anyone else see the tip CWB says they received over a week ago, its been completely proven right so far and they even had the name of the hardware store the clothesline was purchased at. I wonder how far in advance they purchased it, definitely seems premeditated if its correct. CWB Chicago: UPDATE: Smollett "potential persons of interest" went to Lakeview HS; More...
Yeah. Certain aspects of his account can be explained away, but the second you discount one part, another glaring problem pops up.

It’s like a game of “whack-a-mole.”

It’s at a point where I have to twist myself in knots, in order to take his account at face value.
 
  • #707
Apparently he never did claim the MAGA hats, but the rest of it is problematic.
Following the stated attack CNN ran a story in which Smollett added the MAGA hat detail. Even by this early stage, however, CNN may have been doubting his claim because CNN also made it clear that the MAGA hats were not in his original report.
 
  • #708
Following the stated attack CNN ran a story in which he added the MAGA hat detail. Even by this early stage, however, CNN may have been doubting his claim because they also made it clear that the MAGA hats were not in his original report.
Gotcha. I’m willing to discount it entirely, because everything else is so damn problematic that I don’t even need it to be skeptical.
 
  • #709
Law and Order SVU is definitely going to episode based on this.

I do think in the dark after you've been punched in the face and then theres a frenzied attack, if the assailants were wearing black ski masks like he said you could mistake someones ethnicity or make an assumption if they said racial epithets like Jussie claimed.

I still have troubling believing what Jussie said happened could have occurred within a 60 second time frame and given as others have said the build of the suspects, if both of them attacked you at once I don't think you'd walk away easily.


Did anyone else see the tip CWB says they received over a week ago, its been completely proven right so far and they even had the name of the hardware store the clothesline was purchased at. I wonder how far in advance they purchased it, definitely seems premeditated if its correct. CWB Chicago: UPDATE: Smollett "potential persons of interest" went to Lakeview HS; More...
Yes I've been watching CWB for sometime now, there tipster has been right on!
 
  • #710
I'm surprised the brothers don't have some big wig lawyer by now. I would think Empire and Fox would get someone in place in case LE gets them to flip on JS
 
  • #711
Apparently he never did claim the MAGA hats, but the rest of it is problematic.

A premeditated attack in the middle of the night.

These guys would have had to have known that he would run out at 2AM.

They were equipped with a rope and bleach, which is just weird.

Outnumbered two to one by some very well built men, he escapes with superficial injuries.

He claims they were white, and yelled racial epithets.

Incidentally, he has been politically outspoken, and his account of the attack fits perfectly into a narrative that jibes with his views.

These suspects are black, and they know him.

They leave the country hours later, which is a wild coincidence.

I think that people have every right to be skeptical here.

And the hate letter a couple of weeks prior. It's just too much.
 
  • #712
So they've been charged with "battery." What kind of sentence does that carry?

These two men knew Jussie. Went to the gym with him (they must have trained him to "fight back" because those dudes are ripped!), Instagram pals, etc. Surely they could have picked a better time to attack their friend than the middle of a frigid night when it was extremely unlikely (but super lucky as it turns out!) they'd even encounter him.
 
  • #713
And the hate letter a couple of weeks prior. It's just too much.
The hate letter may be unrelated. If they have evidence that it is connected, then you are absolutely right; it would be a bridge too far.
 
  • #714
And the hate letter a couple of weeks prior. It's just too much.
And that is not going to end well either because the FBI is handling that piece. Now we're talking a Federal crime!
 
  • #715
The hate letter may be unrelated. If they have evidence that it is connected, then you are absolutely right; it would be a bridge too far.

My opinion is that it is next to impossible the two events are not related. The first event may not have had the desired effect so the plan had to have a phase 2.
 
  • #716
The hate letter may be unrelated. If they have evidence that it is connected, then you are absolutely right; it would be a bridge too far.

We're already a bridge too far when someone can't distinguish between a black Nigerian and a white man yelling MAGA country. IMO
 
  • #717
So,posters believe that these guys are in a conspiracy and are willing to take a chance on going to prison because.....?
 
  • #718
Off Topic - Mass shooting of workers and LE at an Aurora, Illinois factory.... Suspect at large..... On all TV channels.
 
  • #719
We're already a bridge too far when someone can't distinguish between a black Nigerian and a white man yelling MAGA country. IMO
Haaaa, I did mean to add “if we’re not already there.”

We’ve followed enough cases on here, that we know when something ain’t right.

This one didn’t seem “right” from the beginning.
 
  • #720
My opinion is that it is next to impossible the two events are not related. The first event may not have had the desired effect so the plan had to have a phase 2.

I agree, but then I think maybe it is true because how could anyone be stupid/evil enough to make all of this up? Especially a high profile person. I really can't wrap my head around it.
 
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