IL - Actor Jussie Smollett allegedly attacked in hate crime being black & gay Jan 2019 *ARRESTS*

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Even if you did have something to hide as long as its unrelated to the investigation at hand i.e. you bought drugs earlier in the night, have naughty pictures on your phone or had a hook up with someone who isn't your significant other, LE won't care. Especially in a case with a high profile victim, unless there is something truly heinous or disproves the crime altogether, IMHO LE won't care.

At this point even if they caught the alleged perpetrators, theres no way they could win a case, a defense attorney would tear Jussie's reluctance to share his phone records to shreds and would probably be able to subpoena his full phone data and/or bring in an expert witness to talk about how data can be tampered with.

Oh, I just live a boring, sheltered life. Sigh. Nothing on my phone.
Thank you for the answer. I would have never thought of potential issues like drug deals, 🤬🤬🤬🤬, or who knows...
 
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I hope justice is served for Jussies sake. He deserves that.
 
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I hope justice is served for Jussies sake. He deserves that.

That goes without saying. If he got actually rolled, we'd all want justice for him.
 
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I’ve been off work for 3 weeks as I was attacked early morning on my way to work.
Man I wish LE was this invested in me. How I would hand anything over to help arrest my assaulter and help me feel safe again.
But alas here we are. Lol.
I’m ok btw. Going back to work tomorrow. :)

Oh No! Like the others, glad you are ok... and really hope you are ok in every way... or will find the love you need to help you be ok. =(
 
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The PR Firm representing him have released a statement (sorry if it reads oddly its a series of tweets)

Rob Elgas on Twitter

The following is a statement from Chris Bastardi, he is the Vice President/Head of Strategy and Crisis for Sunshine Sachs, the firm representing Jussie Smollett.

Sunshine Sachs firm on Smollett phone records: "Jussie is the victim here, which has been stated by the Superintendent of Police. Jussie has voluntarily provided his phone records from within an hour of the attack and given multiple statements to police."

MORE: Sunshine Sachs firm: "Chicago PD has repeatedly informed us that they find Jussie’s account of what happened that night consistent and credible. Superintendent Johnson has been clear from day one that Jussie is a victim."

"We are continuing to work closely with Chicago PD and remain confident that they will find Jussie’s attackers and bring them to justice. Any redacted information was intended to protect the privacy of personal contacts or high-profile individuals not relevant to the attack."

Firm Sunshine Sachs representing Jussie Smollett: "Police have not told us that they are rejecting any records, nor have they expressed concerns about the records to us. Therefore, we don’t feel compelled to be bated into responding to uncorroborated press reports."
 
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I don't get the disconnect here.

We have the CPD giving statements that they received the JS phone records yesterday: "We are very appreciative of the victim's cooperation however the records provided do not meet the burden for a criminal investigation..."

Now we get these type of messages from JS spokes people "Jussie has voluntarily provided his phone records from within an hour of the attack and given multiple statements to police."

And "we don’t feel compelled to be bated into responding to uncorroborated press reports."

What gives.....

It looks like they (team JS) are moving towards making claims against CPD. IMO
 
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Quick question: How did this incident/ alleged incident first come to the attention of the media?

Does anyone know?
 
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If anything it seems Jussie and team are more upset with the media than LE.
After all the Superintendent has said that JS is considered a victim.
What we do have are some media tweeting to say they have sources that are hinting otherwise.
Other media are following along. It does make a good story and garners hits.
This doubt from the public seems to have started because they can't find the two guilty people,although last I read LE still want to question the two figures from the video who have been determined not to be homeless as earlier reported.
So I think we need to wait for an actual statement coming directly from higher up in LE. IMO
 
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The statement added: “Jussie has voluntarily provided his phone records from within an hour of the attack and given multiple statements to police.

......

Yet is also says “police publicly stated that the records Smollett and his manager provided weren’t sufficient for solving the case...”

So, which is it? What exactly did he give them within one hour of the attack?

How much ya wanna bet the headlines will be Jussie Smollett vs. “racist CPD” within a week.

CPD really need to be on top of this, because if it goes sideways we don’t need anymore violence against cops. They need to be 100% one way or another, so I’m sure they’re taking everything into consideration.
 
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Quick question: How did this incident/ alleged incident first come to the attention of the media?

Does anyone know?
I think TMZ was the first national outlet to report it. 'Empire' Star Jussie Smollett Tells Cops His Attackers Touted MAGA

From the article:
Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We're told when shortly after he walked out on his way home, someone yelled, "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?"


The 2 men -- both white and wearing ski masks -- viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, "This is MAGA country."
 
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If anything it seems Jussie and team are more upset with the media than LE.
After all the Superintendent has said that JS is considered a victim.
What we do have are some media tweeting to say they have sources that are hinting otherwise.
Other media are following along. It does make a good story and garners hits.
This doubt from the public seems to have started because they can't find the two guilty people,although last I read LE still want to question the two figures from the video who have been determined not to be homeless as earlier reported.
So I think we need to wait for an actual statement coming directly from higher up in LE. IMO


Could you please link where it states that the two figures on the video are not homeless? I haven't seen that yet.

I think this attack is very multi-faceted.

Look up HR35 Anti-Lynching Bill introduced by Chicago Democratic Congressman and former Black Panther Bobby Rush on January 3rd, a little over 2 weeks before the threat letter sent to the victim and 26 days before the attack.

Look up the crisis management PR firm SunshineSachs and it's founder Ken Sunshine.
Ken Sunshine is the former Chief of Staff of former NYC Mayor David Dinkins.
He worked managing current NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio, and worked with both NY Governor's Mario and Andrew Cuomo.
His initial clients included the 1992 Democratic National Convention working with Ron Brown, then chairman of the Democratic Party.
 
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What we do have are some media tweeting to say they have sources that are hinting otherwise.
Other media are following along. It does make a good story and garners hits.

Most of the media I'm following (I and others have already posted multiple times) are giving direct quotes from the CPD spokesperson.

If they media was misrepresenting the CPD spokespersons statements I'm sure they would come out immediately and correct the record.

The local reporters who have been tweeting source is the CPD.
 
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Yet is also says “police publicly stated that the records Smollett and his manager provided weren’t sufficient for solving the case...”

So, which is it? What exactly did he give them within one hour of the attack?

How much ya wanna bet the headlines will be Jussie Smollett vs. “racist CPD” within a week.

CPD really need to be on top of this, because if it goes sideways we don’t need anymore violence against cops. They need to be 100% one way or another, so I’m sure they’re taking everything into consideration.

I understood the “within one hour of the attack” to mean all phone calls within one hour before the time frame of the attack, not that he turned over his phone records one hour after the actual attack? Does that make sense?
 
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It would be hard to splash someone with bleach that is contained in a hot sauce bottle. Whenever I use hot sauce out of a bottle I have to hold it upside down and shake it. Its more like a dribble-dribble and not a splash.

Unless of course it is one of those huge Costco style bulk containers!!

That is the first thing that crossed my mind! I had an instant visual of someone trying to heave bleach on him from an actual bottle of hot sauce during the 60 second attack. So like nine drops?
 
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I understood the “within one hour of the attack” to mean all phone calls within one hour before the time frame of the attack, not that he turned over his phone records one hour after the actual attack? Does that make sense?
Yes that does make sense.

JS spokesman said just a couple days ago that JS had already turned over the phone records but it was not until yesterday that CDP spokesperson said they had just received them in their PDF redacted state.

Local news (article previously posted already) was reporting end of last week that CDP was still negotiating with JS lawyers to get the phone records.
 
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What are the odds that he was attacked in the 60 seconds that he was out of camera view? Is this a huge coincidence or was it by design?
 
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Could you please link where it states that the two figures on the video are not homeless? I haven't seen that yet.

I think this attack is very multi-faceted.

Look up HR35 Anti-Lynching Bill introduced by Chicago Democratic Congressman and former Black Panther Bobby Rush on January 3rd, a little over 2 weeks before the threat letter sent to the victim and 26 days before the attack.

Look up the crisis management PR firm SunshineSachs and it's founder Ken Sunshine.
Ken Sunshine is the former Chief of Staff of former NYC Mayor David Dinkins.
He worked managing current NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio, and worked with both NY Governor's Mario and Andrew Cuomo.
His initial clients included the 1992 Democratic National Convention working with Ron Brown, then chairman of the Democratic Party.
I'm sorry but I can no longer find the few articles from media that reported the two men were not homeless.
However,when you think about it how could one know one way or the other if the two men were homeless or not?
As far as I know they haven't been identified.
I'm aware that JS has friendships with a few politicians but would one need to fake an attack to get support for an anti lynching bill?
Surely everyone could support that sort of bill. IMO
 
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