IL - Actor Jussie Smollett allegedly attacked in hate crime Jan 2019 #5 Smollett indicted”

[Trident]

What is interesting about this is something she says right off the bat. She is asked if she is concerned about the new FBI investigation into this matter. And she says no, because they did nothing wrong "on our end." It isn't wrong for a defense attorney to take a sweetheart deal. But it sounds like she knows damn well the prosecutor did something wrong.

Well, it seems that something wrong went down - maybe it has something to do with the big, thick-skinned creature taking up space in the room, the critter no one is allowed to mention.

My opinion only

 

[maggieg]

Was curious to see what the candidates for Mayor thought about this since they rather than Rahm Emanuel will be the one that will sue him if it goes that way and to say their reaction to the whole thing is lackluster is an understatement, neither seems even cross about it

"Asked whether she’d lost confidence in Foxx, Lightfoot said she has “100 percent” faith in her and praised her for bringing reform to the criminal justice system.

Preckwinkle declined to comment on Foxx, her protege and former chief of staff, saying she had just learned about the decision."
How Lori Lightfoot, Toni Preckwinkle reacted to Jussie Smollett's case dismissal in debate

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Now it has come out that Foxx didn't actually recuse herself.

Nope, that came out yesterday, and going by her own protocol that means her entire staff is supposed to be recused, and a special prosecutor is brought in to take over the case.

She was going to make sure she didnt follow her own protocol, and let that happen like it should have been done.

Just 2 weeks ago she did completely recuse from acase like its supposed to be done, and she had a special prosecutor brought in from another jurisdiction to be fully in charge of that case.

She knew the drill, but she also knew she wasnt going to follow it when it came to this case.

Imo

 

[Randazzo]

Well, it seems that something wrong went down - maybe it has something to do with the big, thick-skinned creature taking up space in the room, the critter no one is allowed to mention.

JS has to be the victim. he's a special class and can not be guilty of anything. that's why the outright lying about his criminal record, the sealing of records, his and his scum bag lawyer claims that the cops are out to get him, that the "attackers" were wearing makeup, the DA lying about the sealing of the records, and on and on. These people really think if they lie enough it will become true.

 

[TTF14]

Wow.

Good question, "would he testify?" And the answer? He's basically just too tired of this whole thing. lol! Does she realize how ridiculous that sounds!?

 

[PrairieWind]

Nope, that came out yesterday, and going by her own protocol that means her entire staff is supposed to be recused, and a special prosecutor is brought in to take over the case.

She was going to make sure she didnt follow her own protocol, and let that happen like it should have been done.

Just 2 weeks ago she did completely recuse from acase like its supposed to be done, and she had a special prosecutor brought in from another jurisdiction to be fully in charge of that case.

She knew the drill, but she also knew she wasnt going to follow it when it came to this case.

Imo

Normally, this would result in an investigation from the Illinois Bar Association and likely subsequent sanction. That is how it works in most states. But it wont happen here.

 

[PrairieWind]

So hes done apparently thousands of hours of charity work since he was a teenager, why are 2 days where he did 16 hours recently being mentioned at all?

I liked that Savannah hammered home that the Brothers had no motive.

The lawyer says about the frenzied attack that he was being attacked so he was disorientated etc, he fought back though according to him, you have to have some sort of wherewithal to punch someone back and fight back.

I have lots of clients that have done tons of charity work in their past. They still go to jail when they break the law.

 

[Gardenista]

Jussie Smollett Demands Team Develop Plan to Fix His Image

Sources close to the "Empire" star tell TMZ ... even though his criminal record's scrubbed clean, he's in crisis management mode to repair his public image. We're told he's ordered his team to come up with a plan to fix that pronto, because if they don't ... he's screwed professionally.

Our sources say Jussie's open to anything that will give him an opportunity to tell his story and convey he's not the bad guy. Yes ... he will stick to the victim narrative.

 

[Love Never Fails]

The attorney for JS is tripling down on the race issue. She is now saying the Nigerian brothers wore white face makeup and that is why he thought they were white. Really? Can this get any worse?

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I don't think charges can be brought again. I am guessing that the charges were dismissed with prejudice, meaning they cannot be refiled. That would be very unusual. But I bet it happened. But of course, since the file is sealed, we don't get to see.

I think it depends on the facts of the case, which are currently sealed. Preliminary we know that jeopardy wasn't attached due to the status of the trial as there was jury/witnesses yet (this article is about a Cook County criminal case and whether or not a criminal case is barred after dismissal, which it seems like things are very complicated in Cook County):

Jeopardy, however, does not attach until a trial on the merits begins with either the swearing of the jury in a jury trial or the swearing of the first witness in a bench trial.   Preliminary proceedings heard on motions before trial do not place a defendant in jeopardy.
FindLaw's Appellate Court of Illinois case and opinions.

I also wonder if prosecutorial misconduct could reverse it. Normally misconduct gets things dismissed with prejudice to do abuse of defendants, but this seems to be a reverse kind of misconduct. Foxx's non-recusal recusal seems totally shady.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

continuing with my optimism.. is it possible that the feds are going to press charges, and they are the ones that pulled strings to get state charges dropped so that it wouldn't interfere with an upcoming federal case?

I dont really think so.

The state charges were opposite offenses than the feds can file against JS. Although they will charge him with lying if he does so in any interviews with the FBI.

Neither case conflicted with the other imo

The state deal reeks of corruption imo.

Someone wanted all charges dismissed besides his attorneys imo. Foxx made sure it happened. She was the facilitator go between imoo.

Imo

 

[PrairieWind]

I think it depends on the facts of the case, which are currently sealed. Preliminary we know that jeopardy wasn't attached due to the status of the trial as there was jury/witnesses yet (this article is about a Cook County criminal case and whether or not a criminal case is barred after dismissal, which it seems like things are very complicated in Cook County):

Jeopardy, however, does not attach until a trial on the merits begins with either the swearing of the jury in a jury trial or the swearing of the first witness in a bench trial.   Preliminary proceedings heard on motions before trial do not place a defendant in jeopardy.
FindLaw's Appellate Court of Illinois case and opinions.

I also wonder if prosecutorial misconduct could reverse it. Normally misconduct gets things dismissed with prejudice to do abuse of defendants, but this seems to be a reverse kind of misconduct. Foxx's non-recusal recusal seems totally shady.

Jeopardy is different from "prejudice." But as to whether misconduct could undo a "dismissal with prejudice", I don't know. I don't think it could. None of this of course affects federal charges.

 

[PrairieWind]

continuing with my optimism.. is it possible that the feds are going to press charges, and they are the ones that pulled strings to get state charges dropped so that it wouldn't interfere with an upcoming federal case?

No. The federal jurisdiction runs completely separate from the State charges. It could be that the feds were not really pursuing the case since they thought the State was. Now that the State has punted, the Feds may get back in gear. I am a bit surprised that the feds were not following up on the fake letter more aggressively. This concept of mailing (or pretending to mail) threats and bombs or powder through the mail is growing and I would have thought they would be very aggressive. However, as we saw, JS's "people" were very eager to get the case turned over to the FBI, and I can only assume that was because they had connections there that would bury it. Now those people are being exposed.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I have lots of clients that have done tons of charity work in their past. They still go to jail when they break the law.

Hi Prairie Wind,
Since JS cannot be recharged for the same crime, what can be done about the dishonesty of the DA?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Normally, this would result in an investigation from the Illinois Bar Association and likely subsequent sanction. That is how it works in most states. But it wont happen here.

I believe I read yesterday the CPD union president hand delivered their complaint, and attached documents to the FBI office about Foxx lying about recusing herself, and her staff.

This might wind up at the DOJ in WDC instead of handled by the local FBI field office.

I think it depends if an investigation shows corruption inside of Foxx's office, including herself, whether she winds up disbarred or not.

This time she is fighting the city, and the CPD.

Imo

 

[squareandrabbet]

Hilarious, absurd, and yes, *racist* claims by Jussie’s Attorney that the Osundairo brothers wore “white face” during the “attack.”



Jussie Smollett's lawyer suggests Osundairo brothers wore white makeup during attack, brushes off FBI probe

I really hate to do his teams story concocting for them, but... does he mean like Clown White? How thick would it have to be? Aren’t actors used to looking at themselves or others in heavy layers of special obviously-so stage and film makeup, so JS would know the difference between it and bare skin under streetlights?

Or does he mean 0001 Ivory foundation, or whatever on the L’Oreal shelf? After which the same questions arise? ‘Cuz I can’t imagine Clown White looks vaguely Caucasian white. It would look like you were a victim of Pennywise.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Look at 1800 Pennsylvania Avenue. We have truly lost our way

Omg...uncalled for!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have no earthly clue what you even mean angelinwi, but I do know it has absolutely ZERO to do with JSs hate crime hoax.

Last time I checked, this is the Jussie Smollett forum.

I also know Tricia gave us a stern warning about going off topic into areas we know we are not suppose to tread. I will continue to respect her decisions.

Imo

 

[Tillicum]

Jussie Smollett Demands Team Develop Plan to Fix His Image

Sources close to the "Empire" star tell TMZ ... even though his criminal record's scrubbed clean, he's in crisis management mode to repair his public image. We're told he's ordered his team to come up with a plan to fix that pronto, because if they don't ... he's screwed professionally.

Our sources say Jussie's open to anything that will give him an opportunity to tell his story and convey he's not the bad guy. Yes ... he will stick to the victim narrative.

Doesn't sound like he's concerned about the FBI investigation. That's concerning to me.

I would suggest the only thing that could possibly repair his public image- #confessjussie

 

[PrairieWind]

Hi Prairie Wind,
Since JS cannot be recharged for the same crime, what can be done about the dishonesty of the DA?

That remains to be seen. We would need to know a lot more about what exactly happened. In my experience, such behind the scenes dealings would be more of an ethical violation violating rules of professional responsibility and dealt with by the State Bar. Resulting in a public reprimand or even suspension. But I have very little confidence in that. State Bar functions are all very political in every state, and SA Foxx is well connected, so I don't expect much there. The Bar may say, "its being dealt with, but its all confidential." And nothing happens. If there is actual bribery or coercion, that could be investigated and prosecuted as corruption or various other charges, state or federal. But that kind of case is difficult to prove. The participants are smart enough to not actually pay money for the favor. But more likely its an understanding of "you do this big favor for me, and then when you need a favor, I'll return it." So its very difficult to show the quid pro quo. This "subtle corruption" is rampant.