Inconsistencies/Discrepancies & Timeline discussion

[Asker]

So we have an alibi for Misty,

Where's the alibi for Misty? There are many hours between 7pm and 3 or 3:30 am (depending on what version is being told). Many hours where Misty is not accounted for.

 

[Asker]

Who was with the Great-grandma. She said "we" at least twice.

And we're still talking about 7 p.m. and you're right, not an independent person, though I'd be surprised if she is covering for someone.

I've brought this up before but this story about eating on the porch is hinky. The temperature was around 40 degrees at the time and at 7 pm it would be completely dark outside and I've yet to hear anything from any witnesses about a porch light and even if there was one how much light would that shed on the entire front porch?

Also, 7pm is a little late for two kids of that age to be eating supper when Misty is a stay at home (so to speak) "mom" and had all afternoon to make supper.

 

[Asker]

I don't really think anything happened to Haleigh before 7pm.

I hate to mention this but Haleigh could have experienced an accident (or something worse) earlier in the afternoon or evening and could have bled internally (like an abdominal or brain bleed) and she could have died later on in the night suddenly. I've seen cases like this covered on the TV show Dr. G. So an injury could have occurred at say 4 pm that maybe didn't look serious but was serious and not attended to.

 

[kidz110]

I've brought this up before but this story about eating on the porch is hinky. The temperature was around 40 degrees at the time and at 7 pm it would be completely dark outside and I've yet to hear anything from any witnesses about a porch light and even if there was one how much light would that shed on the entire front porch?

Also, 7pm is a little late for two kids of that age to be eating supper when Misty is a stay at home (so to speak) "mom" and had all afternoon to make supper.

Not to mention--that time line was once again changed on the NG show tonight when TN said her mother was at the house between 7 and 8. Was she trying to extend the time line that Haleigh was seen at home?

 

[tiredofthis]

We were camping and I watched a 3 year old pulled from the water, cold, blue and not breathing. I did CPR on him on the boat ramp. kid came around after a couple of minutes. Before time of cell phones and no phone access.

Kid was still pale, weak, etc. but alert, breathing, etc. but I advised parents to take him to the closest ER as he needed overnight admission to be observed, chest x-ray, etc. They left and were gone a couple of hours. Showed back up and said they went to ER and it was busy so they got tired of waiting and left before seeing a doctor. They thought he was just fine.

Kid ended up having subsequent seizures as a result of lack of oxygen to brain due to near drowning.

So, yep, could very well have happened. Some folks do not think like most responsible adult parents.

OMG! They left before seeing a doctor?

Does he still have seizures?

 

[Tiki]

Also posted on tonight's NG thread:

Perhaps my story will give a different perspective on Misty.

Three years ago I went to my son's apartment and found that he had died during the night. He was in his twenties - I was in my fifties. I have no idea what I said to LE and para-medics that responded to my call. It took me some time to even be able to call 911. To this day, I could not tell anyone what happened and in what order that morning. I don't remember all of the next days or his funeral.

I have been in therapy ever since and have been told I may never recall - it's how your brain protects you. When something like that happens, you are in shock and don't always repond "normally".

It's easy to be critical, but unless you've been in a similar situation, you have no clue how you would react.

I pray for Haliegh's safe return every day. I also pray for Ron and Misty and Crystal and both families. No one can completely recover from losing a child.

 

[tiredofthis]

Also posted on tonight's NG thread:

Perhaps my story will give a different perspective on Misty.

Three years ago I went to my son's apartment and found that he had died during the night. He was in his twenties - I was in my fifties. I have no idea what I said to LE and para-medics that responded to my call. It took me some time to even be able to call 911. To this day, I could not tell anyone what happened and in what order that morning. I don't remember all of the next days or his funeral.

I have been in therapy ever since and have been told I may never recall - it's how your brain protects you. When something like that happens, you are in shock and don't always repond "normally".

It's easy to be critical, but unless you've been in a similar situation, you have no clue how you would react.

I pray for Haliegh's safe return every day. I also pray for Ron and Misty and Crystal and both families. No one can completely recover from losing a child.

I'm so sorry about your son.

 

[Tiki]

I'm so sorry about your son.

Thank you. As I said, it took me a while to get myself together enough to make that call - just a note: I didn't wait 31 days . . .

 

[Searchfortruth]

I thought a huge red flag was the fact that the back door was routinely locked at night, per Ron, but there were no signs of forced entry. My husband was talking about this tonight and raised the issue of "lock bumping" (I had never heard of this). Anyway, it is very simple apparently to get into a locked door this way, I can't believe this hasn't received more publicity than it has...a link is below, this is a must see for anyone concerned about safety, IMO.

http://www.24hrlocksmith.com/bump/

 

[SuziQ]

Thank you. As I said, it took me a while to get myself together enough to make that call - just a note: I didn't wait 31 days . . .

I am so sorry for your loss.

 

[JaneInOz]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/3/16/investigators_mistys_story_has_inconsistencies.html

Anyone see this article today

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Also posted on tonight's NG thread:

Perhaps my story will give a different perspective on Misty.

Three years ago I went to my son's apartment and found that he had died during the night. He was in his twenties - I was in my fifties. I have no idea what I said to LE and para-medics that responded to my call. It took me some time to even be able to call 911. To this day, I could not tell anyone what happened and in what order that morning. I don't remember all of the next days or his funeral.

I have been in therapy ever since and have been told I may never recall - it's how your brain protects you. When something like that happens, you are in shock and don't always repond "normally".

It's easy to be critical, but unless you've been in a similar situation, you have no clue how you would react.

I pray for Haliegh's safe return every day. I also pray for Ron and Misty and Crystal and both families. No one can completely recover from losing a child.

I'm so very sorry that that happened to you. (((((HUGS))))) Same thing happened with me, except it was my fiance. Thank you for sharing your experience. I've thought a lot about mine when I listen to Misty's accounts of what happened, and I think a lot of her inconsistencies can be attributed towards shock. I can't even imagine what it would have been like to have to be questioned by police who were trying to get me to confess to something I didn't do. If that would've been the case I can't say that I wouldn't have walked out just like Misty did.

I wish that Nancy Grace would have a psychologist on the show to discuss what is in the range of behavior to be expected from someone who has experienced this kind of trauma.

I hope they find this little girl!

 

[radio]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/3/16/investigators_mistys_story_has_inconsistencies.html

Anyone see this article today

They are really turning it up on this aren't they? Daily now.

Thanks Jane:thumb:

 

[PattyCake]

I'm so very sorry that that happened to you. (((((HUGS))))) Same thing happened with me, except it was my fiance. Thank you for sharing your experience. I've thought a lot about mine when I listen to Misty's accounts of what happened, and I think a lot of her inconsistencies can be attributed towards shock. I can't even imagine what it would have been like to have to be questioned by police who were trying to get me to confess to something I didn't do. If that would've been the case I can't say that I wouldn't have walked out just like Misty did.

I wish that Nancy Grace would have a psychologist on the show to discuss what is in the range of behavior to be expected from someone who has experienced this kind of trauma.

I hope they find this little girl!

TY JANE for the article....

LE does not take grief & shock into consideration IMO in most cases they investigate.

I've been down that road of grief and not remembering an entire week of family members visiting me. I know what it's like for the brain to protect itself.

In this case, unless Misty was really close to the child in such a short period of time, I don't know how you can bond deeply & eternally in a matter of a 5 to 6 month period.

I myself cannot agree at the moment that she suffered from the same shock & grief at all.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

TY JANE for the article....

LE does not take grief & shock into consideration IMO in most cases they investigate.

I've been down that road of grief and not remembering an entire week of family members visiting me. I know what it's like for the brain to protect itself.

In this case, unless Misty was really close to the child in such a short period of time, I don't know how you can bond deeply & eternally in a matter of a 5 to 6 month period.

I myself cannot agree at the moment that she suffered from the same shock & grief at all.

Excellent point. But if it were me in Misty's shoes I think that I would at least have some of that. When these things happen it just boggles my mind that they do happen, that there are people out there that do this kind of stuff. I think that its part of the reason why I'm here at WS. I want answers, I want to stop these things from happening-- and I am not even experiencing it first hand. I don't know how any of them hold up.

Don't get me wrong, there are cases where the changes that LE has made does result in the child being returned safely home. When we have an Amber Alert in my state it broadcasted on the digital screens on the freeways, its on the radio and TV. Within the last year or so it has resulted in a girl being found before the perp had harmed her and then another wear the child had been kidnapped by a family member. But still my state, Arizona, has one of the highest rates for kidnapping in the country.

Every state has there own criteria for which SOs warrant neighborhood notification. And when I compare our online resources to identify SOs to those in other states, I think we are lacking in that area to. Its just so frustrating and sad.

 

[Donjeta]

Not to mention--that time line was once again changed on the NG show tonight when TN said her mother was at the house between 7 and 8. Was she trying to extend the time line that Haleigh was seen at home?

Did she mean that greatgranny was there for an unspecified time between those times or an hour from 7 to 8? If Sykes really spent a long time there it's very weird that Misty didn't mention her. One might forget or not notice somebody driving by or just popping her head in to say hi but a longer visit should have been significant enough to mention. Especially when it has to do with your alibi...

 

[titanfan62702]

I'm not sure this is exactly the place to post and I admit it does show my ignorance of Florida weather, but if it was 40 degrees that night, why would they have AC repairman in February? People who don't have a stack of money sitting around tend to wait until the last minute to take care of such things.

Again remember I'm in Central Illinois and we were still talking snow.

 

[kikid]

I'm not sure this is exactly the place to post and I admit it does show my ignorance of Florida weather, but if it was 40 degrees that night, why would they have AC repairman in February? People who don't have a stack of money sitting around tend to wait until the last minute to take care of such things.

Again remember I'm in Central Illinois and we were still talking snow.

maybe the heat wasn't working? It was going to be cold (for FL) that night.

 

[kamky]

TY JANE for the article....

LE does not take grief & shock into consideration IMO in most cases they investigate.

I've been down that road of grief and not remembering an entire week of family members visiting me. I know what it's like for the brain to protect itself.

In this case, unless Misty was really close to the child in such a short period of time, I don't know how you can bond deeply & eternally in a matter of a 5 to 6 month period.

I myself cannot agree at the moment that she suffered from the same shock & grief at all.

I think it depends on the person. I bonded with my step kids in 6 weeks. It's now 28 years later and we are as tight as ever. In any case, MC awoke in ths middle of the night to find a child missing, the kitchen light on, and the back to wide open. IMO, that would give anyone the heebie jeebies. I'm sure she was in a state of utter panic and confusion, running around in circles trying to make some sense of what happened.
Here's the thing - the inconsistencies we have heard of are all relatively minor details. Maybe she woke up both thirsty and having to use the bathroom, for example. (Happens to me.) This makes me wonder if there are some more serious inconsistencies that LE is trying to work through that we don't know about.

 

[balaney]

Sleeping arrangements.
Misty has changed her story so many times but the most recent story makes the most sense (in my theory). JR was in the living room and probably fell asleep watching tv. Haleigh was in the big bed (Misty and Ron's) and fell asleep/peed the bed. Misty had to "make the bed" before her and JR could go to bed in it.

If she was irritated that her bed was wet when she came to bed at 10 or 10:30, she may have taken that anger out on Haleigh. Misty's blanket would have been wet and needed washing as would the sheets. Was Haleigh moved with Misty's wet blanket? Did Haleigh die due a drug overdose that was supposed to put her to sleep? Did Misty take her anger out on Haleigh for wetting Misty's bed? Maybe Misty took Haleigh outside to the van and was yelling at her - hence JR did not hear anything but neighbors did?

10 or 10:30 is a crucial time. Misty mentions it too much. Must be when she discovered that her and Ron's bed was wet. She had to move Haleigh to wash the bedding. She would have removed her wet shirt/pants. If she hurt Haleigh while still in the trailer, or if Haleigh died from an o.d., Misty would have propped the back door open to carry her out and hand her off to whoever was helping her or to move her to the van to then dispose of her. Possibly Joe (cousin) assisted Misty and that is why Ron is so quick to state Joe was NOT there. Ron may know Haleigh died from an o.d (easy to forgive Misty especially if he had been known to drug her to sleep). He may be playing along with the "stolen child" theory because drugs/Joe are involved. Joe can not tell because he assisted in disposing of Haleigh. Misty will not tell because she either drugged the child or accidently (in rage) killed her. Ron will not tell because drugs are involved and Joe may have something on Ron. That is the only reason Ron would stand up for Joe.