Interview with Maya D at Lowell...

[logicalgirl]

Good question. How do reporters get interviews? I assumed that KB read the Discovery and thought 'maybe I'll see if I can get an interview with MD'. I doubt an inmate can request an interview with the Media. And under what conditions are they granted and why?

I know some big interviews have taken place - Manson and the guy who was later killed in prison (he had one victim in a small trunklike box in his closet) & his father/mother were interviewed too - on 20/20 and similar programs.

My guess is KB went after the interview to gain further info regarding MD's claims.

KB says on the tapes she wrote to Maya and asked for an interview. Everyone else was focusing on Robyn, it makes sense to me to follow up on Maya to see what she knows to confirm either Casey's stories or Robyn's.

 

[beach]

btw.....this whole conversation about Maya is going to be discussed on JVM tonight. (She is on here now.)


I am in no way vouching for the accuracy of that comes out of the mouths of the talking heads. I was burned last week when they reported that JS posted on MD's site. Just an FYI for anyone that might want to tune in.

 

[eaglemom]

I guess what it comes down to is you either believe people change or you don't....

their motivations can be selfish, for the betterment of humanity, because oll of a sudden a child is sitting on their lap and they realize another child will no longer be sitting on anyone's lap, because they mature, because they change environments, because they get off drugs/addictive behaviors, for God or because of a higher power, or ???

at the heart of this discussion is either you believe she changed enough so that she could go from a ruthless/drug addicted/gang member killer to a person that could confess to her crime in the space of a few months in prison and then take it one step further and ,for no discernable reason that benefits her, bring to light information in the case of a fellow inmate.

I realize there is the argument of plea deal but the big argument against that is gang members are a lot like mafia - it is family - and you don't give up family to benefit yourself. You do things that benefit the family. For most gang members death would have been a better option and given them more 'cred' than a plea of 30 years. Most gangs are alive and well in the prison system so I am quite sure Maya lives with that daily.

With Maya's background I am sure she has the street smarts and has lived through incidents many of us cannot imagine. Her living conditions in prison may be much better than she has ever encountered (without abusive men at least and relatively safe warm housing); however she also had to give up the 'attitude' and individualism that got her to the top of the gang and I am sure she spent much time in trouble while adjusting to having people tell her what to do and when to do it.

I, too, have listed to many of the audio tapes and have yet to make up my mind. There is much I consider credible in the interview but some I do not.

One thing I can say is that she does seem to be a much changed woman from the one that entered the penal system several years ago - and I applaud her for that and for her work with youth.

MOO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Do we know if either RA or MD have taken polygraphs in connection with their statements about KC? I so wish Kathi Belich had asked her..

From what I can tell the Polygraph was regarding her own case. It was administered prior to her interview with LE regarding KC. I posted the dates earlier somewhere.

 

[magic-cat]

I will almost guarantee that in prison, Maya was known as a snitch before this. You dont testify against your fellow gang members and not be deemed so. Obviously she was being housed in PC for a reason.

I meant I would like to see the transcript in regards to this case, not her previous case. For me the previous case is cut and dry (out of interest I would read the docs if they were available though).

RAs Dad visited Maya in prison! Common sense dictates to me that RA was trying REALLY hard to get her sentence reduced. It is written in her own letters. She even got a new attorney when the other told her what she had on Casey was NOT enough to get a deal. Maya is RAs friend and as such would want to help RA as much as herself.

Like I said previously. If people truly believe that she did not say chloroform because she could not pronounce it, then why not at least a reference to a rag being used, or something else of the sort. I wonder why the State didnt release the transcript of her interview, and I personally feel that this is because the State doesnt believe her either and wont be using her at trial. I believe they MAY use RA, but not Maya. I also believe the Belich interview was because Myaa KNOWS the State doent buy her story, so now she is offering new details, in the hopes that they WILL.

Anyway, I could be completely wrong and she may just show up on the stand, but at this point I am left feeling as though that is not likely going to occur.

It is distinctly possible that they had more than one interview with Maya. Perhaps her transcript is in the new documents that were recently provided to the defense which we have not seen yet? Perhaps they are holding it for trial.

 

[beach]

Beach! Is that a serious question? I know they are two hours long, but of course I have - twice!

PS: RH was OMG..wrong.

Sorry girl! I was immersed in RA discs 1 & 3. I thought you were on the River/Sky tapes. I didn't realize we had summarized those calls. I will go thread diving now!

 

[Astraea]

I listened very carefully to her wording in this interview:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-confession101507-mp3,0,3006841.mp3file

The issue is of course whether Maya is believable or not in said interview with Belich. I do not see the pronunciation of chloroform being an issue as she stated in the aforementioned interview. I also think that IF she was told such a thing she could easily have said the part about the rag. It will be interesting to see the JVM segment though!

 

[LambChop]

Okay, this is why I believe what Maya said may be true (not that it will ever show up in court) because people do make mistakes and sometimes they are tragic. Is it because Maya belonged to a gang? If a good outstanding citizen can attend a cocktail party has a little to much to drink, gets into their car and on the way home end up killing a mother and her child is it any less a crime. People die every day in accidents caused by drunk driving. They made a very bad decision. They are no less guilty of a crime that caused the death of a person. They may not be charged the same but it doesn't make it any less tragic. Is it possible they have no credibility, I would not know that and can't judge them because I do not know their story.

At some point we have to accept that LE & SA know what they are doing to seek justice for the victim and the person who bears the responsibility. That is all they are trying to do and someone who comes forward with the truth deserves to get a lighter sentence.

Personally I would like to see a link to the information that is contrary to what I have read so far. If there is opposing information out there than what has been reported I would like to read it myself. Thanks

JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Upcoming on Issues now - MD claims.

Coming up on HLN soon central but first something more about HC.

 

[logicalgirl]

Sorry girl! I was immersed in RA discs 1 & 3. I thought you were on the River/Sky tapes. I didn't realize we had summarized those calls. I will go thread diving now!

Er - didn't post them....just listened. Was a teensy bit cross with RH that weekend and feeling all "used".

Sorry!:blushing:

 

[LambChop]

Do we know if either RA or MD have taken polygraphs in connection with their statements about KC? I so wish Kathi Belich had asked her..

Not sure why LE would tell anyone if they had given her one. As I said if LE needed to get a subpoena to get those letters I would think they would not be inclined to take her word for it. How hard is it to polygraph someone? There either telling the truth, or not. jmo

 

[magic-cat]

I listened very carefully to her wording in this interview:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-confession101507-mp3,0,3006841.mp3file

The issue is of course whether Maya is believable or not in said interview with Belich. I do not see the pronunciation of chloroform being an issue as she stated in the aforementioned interview. I also think that IF she was told such a thing she could easily have said the part about the rag. It will be interesting to see the JVM segment though!

It is apparent from the Supplemental Report that she did discuss this with them. They summarize it right there in the report do they not? :waitasec:

 

[magic-cat]

Er - didn't post them....just listened. Was a teensy bit cross with RH that weekend and feeling all "used".

Sorry!:blushing:

No need to be sorry just tell us now! lol :angel::innocent:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Coming up on HLN soon central but first something more about HC.

Still waiting - I hate when they do this - keep leading you on and waiting. Then when they talk about it, it won't be anything we don't already know.

 

[JBean]

Interesting thread. John Gardner has a conscious too and led authorities to the location of Amber Dubois after listening to the father's pleas on TV.Felt bad for the dad. Doesn't make him any less of a cold blooded killer.

Part of owning up to your criminal and ignorant behavior does not mean that everyone forgives you for being a murderer but rather coming to understand that you may not be trusted or respected again as a result of your behavior.
I don't think atonement grants crediblity. I think it means they accept that most won't find them credible and will look at them differently for the rest of their lives and understanding that, it is a logical consequence and part of their punishment.

JMHO of course.

 

[Astraea]

It is apparent from the Supplemental Report that she did discuss this with them. They summarize it right there in the report do they not? :waitasec:

In the interview with Belich at the beginning of this thread, she is asked about this and gives her reasoning for NOT telling LE. I am sure everyone has listened to this interview before commenting(or I would at least hope so).

Some have stated that was a good enough reason for them as to why she omitted this important piece of information. This is not believable to me after listening to the interview I linked where she tells her story about Jackie. In said interview her pronunciation would not indicate that she would have trouble saying chloroform. Even IF she could not, I see no reason that she could not have mentioned the rag to LE.

I am thinking that the State does not believe Maya either. This is the only reason I can find in my own mind for the lack of a transcript in the document dump. Maybe one will be forth coming. Either way, her story doesnt make any sense to me, and as such I dont believe her.

 

[magic-cat]

I listened very carefully to her wording in this interview:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-confession101507-mp3,0,3006841.mp3file

The issue is of course whether Maya is believable or not in said interview with Belich. I do not see the pronunciation of chloroform being an issue as she stated in the aforementioned interview. I also think that IF she was told such a thing she could easily have said the part about the rag. It will be interesting to see the JVM segment though!

I listened carefully to that interview as well, and what I heard was a 17 year old uneducated gang member who was so lost she did not know which way was up who had participated in murder and was being eaten up alive from the inside out because of it. Maybe my hearings bad or somethin...lol

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Still waiting - I hate when they do this - keep leading you on and waiting. Then when they talk about it, it won't be anything we don't already know.

Was on and they're coming back - same dialog we're having - not sure if credible, depends on whose side you're on (I'm not on a side - just want the truth).

 

[magic-cat]

In the interview with Belich at the beginning of this thread, she is asked about this and gives her reasoning for NOT telling LE. I am sure everyone has listened to this interview before commenting(or I would at least hope so).

Some have stated that was a good enough reason for them as to why she omitted this important piece of information. This is not believable to me after listening to the interview I linked where she tells her story about Jackie. In said interview her pronunciation would not indicate that she would have trouble saying chloroform. Even IF she could not, I see no reason that she could not have mentioned the rag to LE.

I am thinking that the State does not believe Maya either. This is the only reason I can find in my own mind for the lack of a transcript in the document dump. Maybe one will be forth coming. Either way, her story doesnt make any sense to me, and as such I dont believe her.

No, she gives her reason for not having said the word chloroform due to an inability to pronounce it properly. She says she did tell them she used drugs and she put it on a rag and put it on the baby's face. What drug goes on rags to make people go to sleep? Chloroform.

 

[magic-cat]

Was on and they're coming back - same dialog we're having - not sure if credible, depends on whose side you're on (I'm not on a side - just want the truth).

Some clear cut and dried provable truth would be refreshing wouldn't it? :banghead: