Interview with Maya D at Lowell...

[LambChop]

Interesting thread. John Gardner has a conscious too and led authorities to the location of Amber Dubois after listening to the father's pleas on TV.Felt bad for the dad. Doesn't make him any less of a cold blooded killer.

Part of owning up to your criminal and ignorant behavior does not mean that everyone forgives you for being a murderer but rather coming to understand that you may not be trusted or respected again as a result of your behavior.
I don't think atonement grants crediblity. I think it means they accept that most won't find them credible and will look at them differently for the rest of their lives and understanding that, it is a logical consequence and part of their punishment.

JMHO of course.

This is very true and we all know LE would feel the same. Just because she told the truth once does not mean she will do it again. But if LE had to get a subpoena for those letters they are not going before a judge with "we trust her" they would need to prove she was telling the truth. Either they could verify something she stated or they poly'd her. We don't know that they did, we don't know that they didn't. But they have the letters and KB got her interview.

So unless someone can give me a link to a statement made that is contrary to what we have heard so far I tend to believe most of what she says is true. Funny thing is....I always had the impression that the media was leaning towards the chloroform coming from a shot. And Maya says "rag".

Also some of the latter pictures of Caylee, she appears to have a red rash around her mouth. Maybe someone remembers where they are so we can look at them again.

And what is more interesting is defense not asking if she has been polygraphed. They are just very, very quiet.

JMO

 

[magic-cat]

In the interview with Belich at the beginning of this thread, she is asked about this and gives her reasoning for NOT telling LE. I am sure everyone has listened to this interview before commenting(or I would at least hope so).

Some have stated that was a good enough reason for them as to why she omitted this important piece of information. This is not believable to me after listening to the interview I linked where she tells her story about Jackie. In said interview her pronunciation would not indicate that she would have trouble saying chloroform. Even IF she could not, I see no reason that she could not have mentioned the rag to LE.

I am thinking that the State does not believe Maya either. This is the only reason I can find in my own mind for the lack of a transcript in the document dump. Maybe one will be forth coming. Either way, her story doesnt make any sense to me, and as such I dont believe her.

I listened. She says she did not call it chloroform she called it drugs and she did tell them about the rag. She omitted only the word chloroform. She said to her it was just drugs.

Also on pronunciation of CERTAIN words for SOME people, I will refer you back to this very thread where folks discuss their own particular difficulties with pronouncing CERTAIN words.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Was on and they're coming back - same dialog we're having - not sure if credible, depends on whose side you're on (I'm not on a side - just want the truth).

They just argued back and forth on Issues on HLN.

What does this mean per Beth (Carass or Karese, a Lawyer) Beth states that MD says she is not after a reduction of sentence and says,
"Jane, just a couple of weeks ago the Court of Appeals reduced a motion 'slight pause' on her own she went Pro Se and tried to get it reduced."

What does that mean? "A couple of weeks ago" would be after Maya was deposed by LE anyway. I don't get Beth's point nor do I understand it.
Do they think Lawyers are watching the show?

I'll be back - have to go now.

 

[magic-cat]

They just argued back and forth on Issues on HLN.

What does this mean per Beth (Carass or Karese, a Lawyer) Beth states that MD says she is not after a reduction of sentence and says,
"Jane, just a couple of weeks ago the Court of Appeals reduced a motion 'slight pause' on her own she went Pro Se and tried to get it reduced."

What does that mean? "A couple of weeks ago" would be after Maya was deposed by LE anyway. I don't get Beth's point nor do I understand it.
Do they think Lawyers are watching the show?

I'll be back - have to go now.

On somewhere around March 20 I am thinking? Don't quote me on that, sure enough, there was an appeal for a reduction of sentence. It was dismissed I do believe.

 

[Astraea]

I listened. She says she did not call it chloroform she called it drugs and she did tell them about the rag. She omitted only the word chloroform. She said to her it was just drugs.

Also on pronunciation of CERTAIN words for SOME people, I will refer you back to this very thread where folks discuss their own particular difficulties with pronouncing CERTAIN words.

BBM I did not read this in the supplementary report. I will go and look for that again.

IBM Thus the reason I stated, that even IF pronunciation was her reasoning, to me, it still makes no sense that she would not have at least tried to describe what she meant. I would also like to believe that these same posters, when being interviewed by LE about their direct knowledge of things said to them by Casey, would certainly TRY to pronounce the word, no matter their embarrasment.

 

[ZsaZsa]

This is very true and we all know LE would feel the same. Just because she told the truth once does not mean she will do it again. But if LE had to get a subpoena for those letters they are not going before a judge with "we trust her" they would need to prove she was telling the truth. Either they could verify something she stated or they poly'd her. We don't know that they did, we don't know that they didn't. But they have the letters and KB got her interview.

So unless someone can give me a link to a statement made that is contrary to what we have heard so far I tend to believe most of what she says is true. Funny thing is....I always had the impression that the media was leaning towards the chloroform coming from a shot. And Maya says "rag".

Also some of the latter pictures of Caylee, she appears to have a red rash around her mouth. Maybe someone remembers where they are so we can look at them again.

And what is more interesting is defense not asking if she has been polygraphed. They are just very, very quiet.

JMO

She seemed very open and straight forward to me. She didn't ask for any special privileges, no special immunity for herself for anything self incriminating she might say during the course of the interview ( unlike any of the Anthonys) was not represented by her Lawyer, did not ask to have any editorial control over the Interview and she obviously ( to me) went in there and told it, as they say, like it is..

 

[ZsaZsa]

I listened. She says she did not call it chloroform she called it drugs and she did tell them about the rag. She omitted only the word chloroform. She said to her it was just drugs.

Also on pronunciation of CERTAIN words for SOME people, I will refer you back to this very thread where folks discuss their own particular difficulties with pronouncing CERTAIN words.

I believe she said KC administered the Chloroform in the rear wheel well...:innocent:

You have to read the earlier posts to get that joke!

 

[LambChop]

There are many people who do not have a formal education who are embarassed by the fact that they do not know what certain words mean or how to spell or pronounce them. jmo

 

[Astraea]

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...erkovic+supplemental&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

This is a cached version of the supplemental. The rag is NEVER mentioned. It also struck me while rereading this that in the beginning of the LE interview Maya says that Casey and her NEVER spoke about Caylee, and by the end, she is "knocking her out with drugs". She even goes on to say tranquilizers!

This in and of itself also leads me to believe that she is making it up as she goes.

 

[beach]

Er - didn't post them....just listened. Was a teensy bit cross with RH that weekend and feeling all "used".

Sorry!:blushing:

BBM

:rotfl: completely understand....no reason to apologize! :hug:

I did search for the tape threads, but none of them came up in the search.

They might be stored away for security purposes. Which is probably good.

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM

:rotfl: completely understand....no reason to apologize! :hug:

I did search for the tape threads, but none of them came up in the search.

They might be stored away for security purposes. Which is probably good.

Maybe more people than me were huffy after that weekend...:innocent:

 

[beach]

Part of owning up to your criminal and ignorant behavior does not mean that everyone forgives you for being a murderer but rather coming to understand that you may not be trusted or respected again as a result of your behavior.
I don't think atonement grants crediblity. I think it means they accept that most won't find them credible and will look at them differently for the rest of their lives and understanding that, it is a logical consequence and part of their punishment.

JMHO of course.

--respectfully snipped

ITA and think the bolded portion pretty much says it all.

That is exactly the problem I have and, most importantly, the problem the SA will have if they were to choose to put her on the stand. Which I do not think will happen. I don't think the SA needs this testimony and it is too risky. This thread is proof of how differently jurors would view her credibility, IMO. Plus, appearing credible during an interview with Kathi Belich and appearing credible while under cross-examination by Mason Cheney are two enitrely different things. I don't know how she would hold up under cross, and don't really want to find out the hard way.

 

[magic-cat]

BBM I did not read this in the supplementary report. I will go and look for that again.

IBM Thus the reason I stated, that even IF pronunciation was her reasoning, to me, it still makes no sense that she would not have at least tried to describe what she meant. I would also like to believe that these same posters, when being interviewed by LE about their direct knowledge of things said to them by Casey, would certainly TRY to pronounce the word, no matter their embarrasment.

It was in the interview with Kathi Belich. In the supplemental report they condense what they have actually been told, so until we see the actual transcript of her interview/s with LE I doubt we will discover a clear answer to this. :waitasec:

 

[magic-cat]

I agree, JBean, that "attonement does not grant credibility". However, it is also not an established fact either that being a murderer also makes one a liar. One could be a murderer AND tell the truth. The two do not necessarily go hand in hand.

 

[LambChop]

Check out the Today's News. AngelthatCares posted Dr. Glass' views on Maya's body language. Also in the same posts I believe she had comments about KC's letters.

 

[magic-cat]

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...erkovic+supplemental&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

This is a cached version of the supplemental. The rag is NEVER mentioned. It also struck me while rereading this that in the beginning of the LE interview Maya says that Casey and her NEVER spoke about Caylee, and by the end, she is "knocking her out with drugs". She even goes on to say tranquilizers!

This in and of itself also leads me to believe that she is making it up as she goes.

He also says that report is a synopsis of what she said and he does say she told him KC said she used to "knock Caylee out" so perhaps there is more detail in the actual sworn transcript?

 

[nort]

I find it interesting someone would call in a tip after she confessed and told them who else was involved. I would think someone with that kind of information would be following the case closely. The tip was that the people involved were arrested for a car jacking (Maya and another) and in custody so the police had a 50% percent chance of knowing who it was without a real name. IMO

 

[magic-cat]

I'll be darned, I just found it:
It says Casey Anthony never mentioned what she used to put Caylee to sleep...

:waitasec:

hmmm....

I am going to have to crawl away and think on this...:blushing:

 

[Astraea]

He also says that report is a synopsis of what she said and he does say she told him KC said she used to "knock Caylee out" so perhaps there is more detail in the actual sworn transcript?

Those parts were taken from the transcript of LEs interview. The officer says so in that supplementary.


~*snipped by me from supplementary
Maya Derkovic said Casey Anthony never mentioned Caylee Anthony except when she made comments regretting having had a child. Maya Derkovic said the following: 2 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 4 line 20 to page 5 line 4. 3 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 11 lines 8-18. 4 Refer to transcript of Maya Derkovic page 12 lines 1-13.

There very well could be more detail in the sworn transcript, but I am going to assume the officer didnt change the Q& A section where he references the transcript.

 

[magic-cat]

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