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The death of Khamenei is something I have waited for since 1979!
Check out her X account, the people of Iran ARE celebrating.
Okay. But try to imagine this from the point of view of the person whose city is being attacked. Days or weeks is a lifetime of impact if it's your home bombed.There not going to be a war as far as the US is concerned. This is a naval and Air Force operation. There is no universe where US boots are on the ground.
It’ll last days or weeks, and that will be the end of it.
Of course. But this is a regime that just killed at least 30,000 of its own people, and has oppressed those same people for their entire lives.Okay. But try to imagine this from the point of view of the person whose city is being attacked. Days or weeks is a lifetime of impact if it's your home bombed.
These actions just make life even worse in Iran.
MOO
bbmI’m old enough to remember when the Shah fell and the Ayatollah took over.
I remember the American hostages who were held by Iran for 444 or so days.
Iran is a state sponsor of terror. Obama gave Iran billions of dollars and yet they’ve been working on nuclear capability all along.
The thousands of Iranian citizens who’ve been killed for protesting against the regime indicates to me how much the regular citizens want to be free.
JMO
I understand the concern about the country being attacked for, as you say, weeks and a lifetime. They have lived with oppression for decades and now may have chance for change and choices in how their country will move forward. Isn't that something positive for Iran?Okay. But try to imagine this from the point of view of the person whose city is being attacked. Days or weeks is a lifetime of impact if it's your home bombed.
These actions just make life even worse in Iran.
MOO
Yup, we'll see the impact when markets open on Monday.$70 to $73 sounds like a very minor increase to me. For a major event I'd expect at least $150. I realise the current low prices might not support $150, but even so, $3 is a tiny increase. If the strait of Hormuz is blocked for a week or more I would expect oil prices to go up quite a bit more. I'm not all that up on current oil prices, I admit. But if the markets foresaw something long term and major that would last for months I think they'd react stronger than this?
But I have noticed that things like this tend to happen at weekends when markets are closed so that no one can watch the markets react in real time and things have a chance to settle before Monday morning opening in Europe.
No. Not like this.I understand the concern about the country being attacked for, as you say, weeks and a lifetime. They have lived with oppression for decades and now may have chance for change and choices in how their country will move forward. Isn't that something positive for Iran?
Yes, I believe you are correct. But it had the same effect—-unfreezing billions of dollars allowed Iran to build nuclear capability.bbm
False. all he did was unfreeze their assets.
Which they agreed with they would not do.Yes, I believe you are correct. But it had the same effect—-unfreezing billions of dollars allowed Iran to build nuclear capability.
How do you suggest the Iran dictatorship regime be stopped so that it's not horrifying?No. Not like this.
It's horrifying.
MOO
fair to say it has a similar effect. but a worthwhile distinction IMO, because the false mental image of us paying them taxpayer money influenced the politics of it, and I think the incorrect impression that it was on ongoing flow of money transfers played a role in our strange decision to withdraw from jcpoa.Yes, I believe you are correct. But it had the same effect—-unfreezing billions of dollars allowed Iran to build nuclear capability.
Ok I just wanted to make sure this won't be another Iraq.It’ll last days or weeks, and that will be the end of it.
Allow refuges into the US to create a brain drain unless life in Iran is more appealing, create exchange programs, give educational visas to, again, create brain drain, condition trade on democratic institutional strength and conforming with defending human rights, making sure Iranian children have food and education- stuff like that.How do you suggest the Iran dictatorship regime be stopped so that it's not horrifying?
No one wants that, and it would be an absolute political nightmare.Ok I just wanted to make sure this won't be another Iraq.
Did you read the whole thing?BBM - have you done a simple search of Iran celebrations? Because there are many videos out there.
Check out her X account, the people of Iran ARE celebrating.