Is George lying?

[katydid23]

That probably wasn't George looking up escort services but probably Casey seeing how being an escort works. Maybe she thought she is classy enough to be an escort and make some money while hanging out with men! She could see what all the escorts have to offer and have an idea if she wanted to go that route or not. I think it would have suited her but not sure if she was attractive enough.

That is what I thought too at first. But apparently the searches for escort services were mixed in with searches for employment in security positions and
other George related computer things.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

BBM

IMO -- George was thinking that JB was trying to get him to say the smell was greater in the trunk because that is where the bag of garbage was, and George knew the garbage had nothing to do with the smell.

I also think that was what JB was trying to insinuate.

I also think that George is much smarter than most people seem to give him credit for. Let's just see how any of us would have reacted knowing our tiny granddaughter had decomposed in her mother's (our daughter's) car.

JMHO.

The majority of us would have called the police immediately.
Also we would have chased down our daughter/granddaughter BEFORE, pick a date, July 1.
I don't give a hoot what CA said to do or not do. Most men I know would take on the project of finding his girls.

 

[RR0004]

a fib? It's on his application to Andrews Int'l - six months Ft Myers 07-08.

Of course, you're right, he could by lying about anything. If they separated in Nov. 2005, why?
He claims he was SO SO SOOOOO happy to be a grandfather by his young, immature, unmarried daughter.
Why would he move out right after being so blessed?

...because he wasn't getting along with his wife?

A lot of folks fib on job applications to cover for gaps in their employment...not saying it's right, but it's done.

 

[Tulessa]

George taught KC to lie by his example imo. Let's just say he didn't hinder her habit.

He lied on his resume.

He lied about the gas cans.

He lied about his gambling/Nigerian scam - whatever the story is - to Cindy.

He lied about drinking to LE. A grown man lied about drinking because he thought it would make him look bad. :waitasec:
He was found with beers after he didn't kill himself. He's been seen in bars. Why lie? Lying when you don't even have to lie?

He lied about the day KC supposedly drove CA's car away from the house when he chased her but couldn't catch her.

He may have lied about being involved with River (or she is lying).

There are so many lies. This is a man of character? I'm lost.

There are alot more lies.

Bold mine. We have all seen how GA had NO role in raising ICA. We have ALL seen and heards the lies that CA has spewed. We have ALL seen how she has tried to throw everyone she came in contact with under that darn bus. *I am placing more blame on CA than I am GA, because she flatly refuse to keep Casey in line, or to let GA deal with her as a father. Woe I love reading your post and you are so insightful but on this we will have to agree to disagree. :blowkiss:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I think that folks don't believe it because of the source(s)...and that includes Baez. If Casey's lying was the result of abuse and Caylee's death was accidental, why gamble with her life? Why not reveal all of that years ago? Does Casey seem like the kinda gal that would protect her family? She offered up anyone who was kind to her. She'd want to shout it to the world...I am a victim!! My father abused me and he hid Caylee!!
PS- and what really bothers me is how he could play along with all the "sightings" knowing that Caylee was dead. He would he have allowed Caylee to rot in the woods? Look at how much worse that has made things for his client. th depravity of it all. Why on Earth would he have gone along with that?!

George's image is as close to what KC's is in my mind. I don't know what he is but I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. Also I've witnessed his temper (stay inside bud, they can't come in your house) and have heard rumors of his past temper tantrums. You think he hasn't been that way with his immediate family?

And if he's so whipped by CA, he'd potentially do anything to avoid her wrath.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Bold mine. We have all seen hoow GA had NO role in raising ICA. We have ALL seen and heards the lies that CA has spewed. We have ALL seen how she has tried to throw everyone she came in contact with under that darn but. I'm placing more blame on CA than I am GA, because she flatly refuse to keep Casey in line, or to let GA deal with her as a father. Woe I love reading your post and you are so insightful but on this we will have to agree to disagree. :blowkiss:

Thanks for the comps.
I can agree to disagree. No probs.
BUT part of the problem imo is GA's taking no role in raising KC.

 

[Tuffy]

Also, what do molesters look like?
Everyone is so sure that George is NOT one.
How do we know? He could or could not be a molester of his daughter.
News flash - child molesters are in peoples' houses under their own noses.
How is everyone SO SURE that GA is not one of them?

I'm not going to simply take the DT word for it but I wouldn't be that surprised to find out it's true if there's some kind of back story/evidence.

I think this is just another part of this case that we'll never really know the truth about either. There are two people that would know what did/or didn't happen, and I wouldn't believe either of them! lol

I will say that Casey doesn't act as if she were abused by George, but I guess we'll just never really know for sure.

 

[Tulessa]

George's image is as close to what KC's is in my mind. I don't know what he is but I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. Also I've witnessed his temper (stay inside bud, they can't come in your house) and have heard rumors of his past temper tantrums. You think he hasn't been that way with his immediate family?

And if he's so whipped by CA, he'd potentially do anything to avoid her wrath.

I hear ya!! I don't trust ANY of them lol.

 

[MissJames]

Also, what do molesters look like?
Everyone is so sure that George is NOT one.
How do we know? He could or could not be a molester of his daughter.
News flash - child molesters are in peoples' houses under their own noses.
How is everyone SO SURE that GA is not one of them?

I'm not going to simply take the DT word for it but I wouldn't be that surprised to find out it's true if there's some kind of back story/evidence.

You are right .A molester looks like everyone else.

It's not what GA looks like,it's ICA. She acts entitled and and had no problem blasting her parents repeatedly.She went back to that home after she was bailed out. She could have told JB then and taken somewhere safe,but she didn't.
Maybe someone molested would do that.IDK.

She stayed in that home when she could have left.
She blew off a job that would have allowed her to leave,and she certainly was able to make friends and aquire potential roomates.

I really don't know if there was any molestation in that home,but I do recall JB standing up at a hearing and suggesting Jesse Grund was possibly responsible for Caylee's disappearance. He investigated Jesse Grund all the way back to school.
Makes it hard for me,a non-juror who has followed the defense, to believe a word of their opening statement.

 

[sheri21]

I am not sure if I should ask this in this thread or not?? I am new to the case and new Websleuths. I have looked all over for an explanation of why the last time the Anthony's saw ICA was Aug 08. Is that because ICA refused? Afraid of being recorded? If that is the case, why would the Anthony's be such staunch supporters of ICA if she was not talking to them at all. I read about the glances and smiles in court rooms but other than that I can find no communication.

It is so bizarre to me. It makes me feel like ICA must have some kind of weird hold over them. Why would she be so sure they would go along with her defense after ignoring them for 3 years? Something is not right about that. I feel she is completely responsible and a sociopath who could do all this, but I don't understand the parents staying on board until 6 weeks ago. I feel really bad for them but after watching those tapes and hearing Cindy say she believed all the lies until 6 weeks ago, with no contact (I think her face showed doubt in the tapes. Cindy knew it was bad). Can't accept that. Something is really wrong with the family. I am nervous what we will discover.

 

[RR0004]

Bold mine. We have all seen hoow GA had NO role in raising ICA. We have ALL seen and heards the lies that CA has spewed. We have ALL seen how she has tried to throw everyone she came in contact with under that darn bus. *I am placing more blame on CA than I am GA, because she flatly refuse to keep Casey in line, or to let GA deal with her as a father. Woe I love reading your post and you are so insightful but on this we will have to agree to disagree. :blowkiss:

It was the same way in my house...my mother always kept things from my father. She was the "handler". She knew how my father would react if he heard of our wrongdoings...especially if it concerned my sociopathic sister. He had some temper. Did my mom enable my sister...absolutely! But, she knew no other way. Did my father love all of us in spite of our faults...he sure did. He just didn't know the half of what went on in the house...or maybe he did and pretended he didn't...I don't know. He's not around to ask.

 

[Tulessa]

Thanks for the comps.
I can agree to disagree. No probs.
BUT part of the problem imo is GA's taking no role in raising KC.

And we all knows he has no Ba!!s where CA is concerned. That's one of the things that infuriates me the most about those two. If I tried anything like CA has? Hubby would take me out behind the wood shed and rightfully so.:floorlaugh:

 

[Tuffy]

I am not sure if I should ask this in this thread or not?? I am new to the case and new Websleuths. I have looked all over for an explanation of why the last time the Anthony's saw ICA was Aug 08. Is that because ICA refused? Afraid of being recorded? If that is the case, why would the Anthony's be such staunch supporters of ICA if she was not talking to them at all. I read about the glances and smiles in court rooms but other than that I can find no communication.

It is so bizarre to me. It makes me feel like ICA must have some kind of weird hold over them. Why would she be so sure they would go along with her defense after ignoring them for 3 years? Something is not right about that. I feel she is completely responsible and a sociopath who could do all this, but I don't understand the parents staying on board until 6 weeks ago. I feel really bad for them but after watching those tapes and hearing Cindy say she believed all the lies until 6 weeks ago, with no contact (I think her face showed doubt in the tapes. Cindy knew it was bad). Can't accept that. Something is really wrong with the family. I am nervous what we will discover.

This probably is the wrong thread, but I'm not quite sure where to direct you. I think that they were passing each other letters through Jose, and he was bringing his laptop to jail. It's been speculated that they've communicated this way.

 

[cuppy199]

You come very close to perfectly describing a family that I know VERY WELL. As I have followed this case I have become concerned for a child that is not old enough to talk yet to be able to tell the grandparents what they probably already KNOW and don't want to hear. Their dtr. "absolutely" RULES their lives as the mother waits on her hand and foot and takes care of her child most of the time.
Oddly, at one point, when things were not going her way and before she had the child and the parents were trying to "encourage" her to move out on her own she threatened to claim "abuse". That was several years ago and she still lives with them and the parents still "clean up behind her" , in more ways than one!!! And they KNOW IT! but can't stop themselves!!!
I am thankful I am not in their shoes (or head) as I am thankful for the same thing with the Anthonys. .

I think GA may have lied about some things but I just can't believe most of the allegations spewed out against him in the OS. Guess I might have to eat my words (been there, done that) but I think he was a man caught in a situation that he could not really understand or handle. I really don't think he is very "sophisticated" in his thinking. I would have to have more than KC's "word" to believe he molested her or did NOTHING but yell at her after the "accident" and help bury Caylee, who he obviously loved dearly .......not even sure there was an accident at all.
I'm with those who say ......OK...go with the accident if that's all you have but leave G out of it!

by the way.......(is this OT?).....when CM talked about the "flat affect" (alluding, I believe, to effects of her "abuse") I wanted to come out of my chair. All that I have read and SEEN about KC before the trial started and during breaks when the jury was out of the room depicts, to me, a very animated young lady, able to "win friends and influence people"......which would include , it appears, her DT.
just thoughts really

ICA could influence just about anyone very convincing thats what Sociopaths do they are great actors :twocents: Sorry I went OT just had to say what I was thinking out loud :crazy: I still believe the only thing GA is guilty of is trying to protect his ungreatful sociopath daughter and wanting his grandaughter to come home. Im sure the A's wish it were all a dream.

 

[Tulessa]

Sorry for the O/T... but does any one have the three hour NG special recorded yesterday? I was in a lot of pain & missed it.

 

[RR0004]

I am not sure if I should ask this in this thread or not?? I am new to the case and new Websleuths. I have looked all over for an explanation of why the last time the Anthony's saw ICA was Aug 08. Is that because ICA refused? Afraid of being recorded? If that is the case, why would the Anthony's be such staunch supporters of ICA if she was not talking to them at all. I read about the glances and smiles in court rooms but other than that I can find no communication.

It is so bizarre to me. It makes me feel like ICA must have some kind of weird hold over them. Why would she be so sure they would go along with her defense after ignoring them for 3 years? Something is not right about that. I feel she is completely responsible and a sociopath who could do all this, but I don't understand the parents staying on board until 6 weeks ago. I feel really bad for them but after watching those tapes and hearing Cindy say she believed all the lies until 6 weeks ago, with no contact (I think her face showed doubt in the tapes. Cindy knew it was bad). Can't accept that. Something is really wrong with the family. I am nervous what we will discover.

The parents may not have visited with Casey (on the advice of her attorney)...but they wrote. Also, Casey was released the end of Aug. 2008 to her parents' home/custody. She was basically under house arrest...only allowed to leave for visits with her attorney...or other court approved appointments.

WELCOME!!!

 

[Tulessa]

I am not sure if I should ask this in this thread or not?? I am new to the case and new Websleuths. I have looked all over for an explanation of why the last time the Anthony's saw ICA was Aug 08. Is that because ICA refused? Afraid of being recorded? If that is the case, why would the Anthony's be such staunch supporters of ICA if she was not talking to them at all. I read about the glances and smiles in court rooms but other than that I can find no communication.

It is so bizarre to me. It makes me feel like ICA must have some kind of weird hold over them. Why would she be so sure they would go along with her defense after ignoring them for 3 years? Something is not right about that. I feel she is completely responsible and a sociopath who could do all this, but I don't understand the parents staying on board until 6 weeks ago. I feel really bad for them but after watching those tapes and hearing Cindy say she believed all the lies until 6 weeks ago, with no contact (I think her face showed doubt in the tapes. Cindy knew it was bad). Can't accept that. Something is really wrong with the family. I am nervous what we will discover.

Welcome and yes, she was advised by her counsel NOT to receive visitors.

 

[Tuffy]

Sorry for the O/T... but does any one have the three hour NG special recorded yesterday? I was in a lot of pain & missed it.

I've been subscribed to Patty G's youtube page, she uploads NG, and a lot of shows that have to do with the trial as well as the trial itself.

Whoa, wait...a lot of pain? Are you feeling better?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/p"]http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/p[/ame]

 

[RR0004]

Sorry for the O/T... but does any one have the three hour NG special recorded yesterday? I was in a lot of pain & missed it.

They were basically back-to-back shows of the jail videotapes.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I think that folks don't believe it because of the source(s)...and that includes Baez. If Casey's lying was the result of abuse and Caylee's death was accidental, why gamble with her life? Why not reveal all of that years ago? Does Casey seem like the kinda gal that would protect her family? She offered up anyone who was kind to her. She'd want to shout it to the world...I am a victim!! My father abused me and he hid Caylee!!
PS- and what really bothers me is how Baez could play along with all the "sightings" knowing that Caylee was dead. He would have allowed Caylee to rot in the woods? Look at how much worse that has made things for his client. The depravity of it all. Why on Earth would he have gone along with that?!

Funny you should ask. I've been thinking about this very subject.
Casey wouldn't voluntarily/for no good reason protect her family.
KC was not prepared to live on her own in the real world like most 22 year olds probably could figure out how to do so.
She is extremely codependent on her mother.

I heard KC say to DS that she can't go back home with him (GA) there.
IMO KC can't imagine where she'd go besides home to Hopespring Drive if she got out of jail.
There's no TL anymore and she doesn't have a clue what friends she has left.
She wants to get rid of her dad and go back to her mother.
Therefore, I think KC would protect her bread winner (mother) because it is in KC's best interest to do so.

I'd even go so far as to say that even if CA was the one with the prior knowledge of what happened to Caylee, KC would protect CA rather than her father because CA is the boss, earned the money consistently and took care of anything and everything.
You can usually find someone to cut the lawn and fix your car. KC suffers from learned helplessness.
It was surprising to know that KC can make her way around in the kitchen. That's one good thing I guess.