Is Raven a FLIGHT RISK?

...............a flight risk ??

...he's out in utah.......
...amongst his "own" people...
...he coukd disappear in a moment within his 'family'...'tribes'...("Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun
I have just enough Native American and Hispanic blood to claim myself as Lamanite. )( he could very well blend in in mexico)

...the autopsy report is NOT in his favour..
...i hate it that he has kaiden with him....
...yes..............i vote that he is definitely a flight risk.............
 
lauriej said:
...............a flight risk ??

...he's out in utah.......
...amongst his "own" people...
...he coukd disappear in a moment within his 'family'...'tribes'...("Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun
I have just enough Native American and Hispanic blood to claim myself as Lamanite. )( he could very well blend in in mexico)

...the autopsy report is NOT in his favour..
...i hate it that he has kaiden with him....
...yes..............i vote that he is definitely a flight risk.............
No, I don't think that he could blend in even in Mexico. He's more fair skinned--even if he dyed his hair black, he'd look out of place (didn't gm have information that he tried to once and had to rush to his hairdresser to have it fixed?).

Plus, favour? Ah, you Canadians! :D

ETA: Wouldn't he also have to know how to speak spanish?
 
Bump!

I still think Raven is a flight risk. If anyone knows of any information relating to Raven's ability or willingness to flee a potential arrest, please post it here. It can only help LE.
 
Moxie said:
Bump!

I still think Raven is a flight risk. If anyone knows of any information relating to Raven's ability or willingness to flee a potential arrest, please post it here. It can only help LE.
Oh but Moxie....how can he collect that free money and benefits on the run??
I don't see raven as a flight risk because he is innocent, remember? :innocent: and I highly doubt he can stand to be alone with himself for any length of time!
 
Moxie said:
Bump!

I still think Raven is a flight risk. If anyone knows of any information relating to Raven's ability or willingness to flee a potential arrest, please post it here. It can only help LE.
If Raven runs, he will be caught and it will only make it worse for him and his family. It will show his guilt, which will be proven in a court of law anyhow.

Also, if he is helped in any way, by friends or family members, there are laws of Accessory after the fact:

ACCESSORY AFTER THE FACT - Whoever, knowing that an offense has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact; one who knowing a felony to have been committed by another, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the felon in order to hinder the felon's apprehension, trial, or punishment. U.S.C. 18

Also aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/aiding_abetting_accessory.html

Also check this out:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/06/18/news/californian/murrieta/61705202832.txt

Bails stays at $500,000 for sister of man wanted for murder
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By: JOHN HALL - Staff Writer

FRENCH VALLEY ---- Saying he believes she poses a danger to the community, a judge ruled Friday that bail will stay at $500,000 for the sister of a man wanted for killing a soldier on leave in Murrieta.

Patricia Pena Urrea, 24, of Hemet, is charged with being an accessory to murder for reportedly helping her younger brother escape arrest, prosecutors say.

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Bump

I think Raven is a flight risk, and ask those who live close to him to keep an eye out. I believe that if Raven feels the heat is on, and he is guilty, he will run.

If he is innocent, then he is cooperating fully with LE and there would be no reason for him to be nervous.
 
Moxie--
Do you really think that Raven could leave all of his possessions behind? This is a huge sticking point for me. How could the man who's done everything in his power to get big, bright, new things just leave them all behind? Especially Kaiden--although Kaiden might have become more of a liability at this point. And wouldn't Raven's running be a hurdle for Karyn (aka Mommie Dearest) to get custody? Does she even want custody?

IMO, I just don't see Raven as the kind of person to be able to pick up, leave everything behind, and start all over. Could you see his metrosexual needs going unmet? I just couldn't.
 
Jenifred said:
Moxie--
Do you really think that Raven could leave all of his possessions behind? This is a huge sticking point for me. How could the man who's done everything in his power to get big, bright, new things just leave them all behind? Especially Kaiden--although Kaiden might have become more of a liability at this point. And wouldn't Raven's running be a hurdle for Karyn (aka Mommie Dearest) to get custody? Does she even want custody?

IMO, I just don't see Raven as the kind of person to be able to pick up, leave everything behind, and start all over. Could you see his metrosexual needs going unmet? I just couldn't.
I agree it is hard to get hair highlights and a back-wax while on the run from the law; however, it is equally hard to do so behind bars. So, in my opinion, if Raven is guilty, he will run if he thinks LE is ready to arrest him. To him it would be the lesser of two evils. No pun intended.
 
I agree with Moxie. Raven does love his various toys, but he, himself, is his most prized possession. I have always felt nervous that Raven will run. He is very charming and egotistical. Probably feels he can quickly tap into and start draining resources wherever he goes. Please, LE, keep tabs on him!
 
Do any of you think Raven is smart enough to get the timing down just right ? He can't leave too early, but how would he know if LE was planning on arresting him ? who would tip him off-- cause he certainly would need some prior knowledge to get away from LE-- but not so early so that his family and friends would think he actually has run away.You know what I mean ?

Nah, I think he has become cocky cause he thinks he has gotten away with it. He'll stay where he is cause he knows that after 7 months, he's home free ( pun intended :D) NOT!
 
That is a good point. If he had prior knowledge of an impending arrest, I think he would run without hesitation. If he ran now, that would indicate guilt...and perhaps his ego wouldn't allow it.
 
If he does run, he can't hide. His metrosexual ways will give him away, and huntin' for a murderer is something that LE would definitely do. He'll be caught, he will be put in jail, he will have a trial, he will be found guilty for running and for first degree murder and then the doors will lock behind him.

Women and baby killers don't fair well in jail, but Raven would not fair well on the run, he would be caught and then he would no chance at trial.

If he's the murderer of his wife and his unborn child, which I do indeed believe, I think the pansy will run.
 
Does anyone watch "Prison Break"? Every time I see that show I think of raven in prison, him being a pretty boy and all, I foresee him holding someones pocket.

If raven is at all familiar with the on goings of prison, I believe he would try to run.
 
If this rumor about Raven NOT contacting LE this whole time is true... then I absolutely think he may be a flight risk. He's not smart enough to pull it off alone... someone needs to be keeping their eye on Karyn. She has a ton of those really neat Jackie Peterson qualities about her. Wonder if she's given the RAV the deny deny deny speach yet? Wonder if he's contacted any of his wacko siblings looking for a place to lay low? Do you think he'll bleach his hair that lovely shade of orange that V72100 ended up with? Maybe he'll bonk his head on the van on his way to prison too... now that would be fun to see.
 
I agree that he will run, but the points about the timing are good. Since we don't know what LE is doing, and supposedly Raven isn't contacting them either, he wouldn't know himself. So if he were to run just on a feeling or a fear that he was going to be arrested, that would definitely tip his cards!!

Nice little corner he's backed himself into by not contacting or working with LE, huh? He has no idea what is going on!!
 
Exactly, Moxie !!! what does he do ? keep a fully packed and loaded bike at the back door so he can scoot off when LE comes to the front door ? Does he keep one of his vehicles ( I no longer know how many he has out there ) hidden and packed with survival gear so he can take off for the hills ?

He is backed into a corner and I personally cannot see how he could escape other than leaving now and trying to disappear. But oh wait, wouldn't that signal to all his family and the friends he has left that he is running from the law ? Maybe he would just be trying to cope with his grief and will phone LE regularly to see what is new in the case.
 
Jess said:
Exactly, Moxie !!! what does he do ? keep a fully packed and loaded bike at the back door so he can scoot off when LE comes to the front door ? Does he keep one of his vehicles ( I no longer know how many he has out there ) hidden and packed with survival gear so he can take off for the hills ?

He is backed into a corner and I personally cannot see how he could escape other than leaving now and trying to disappear. But oh wait, wouldn't that signal to all his family and the friends he has left that he is running from the law ? Maybe he would just be trying to cope with his grief and will phone LE regularly to see what is new in the case.
That is a good point! But... we should keep an eye on his family. I wouldn't put it past his mom and siblings to try to help him flee should he feel the need.
 
Am hearing some rumors from our dear bird that he and/or his family are beginning to tell people (evidently not Mormon) that Raven is getting ready to go on a mission. Another mission, mind you. Not the original one he said he went on. Now... This is all fine and good except:

In the Mormon church, you cannot go on a mission if you have a child

So... why would Raven be telling people he was getting ready to go on a mission?

To explain an absence? Where would he be going? Running even? Away from what?

Because we know he is not going to be on a mission for the LDS church.
 
Are you kidding? Even if it was possible, what about Kaiden????

If this rumor is true, this is BIG, BIG news. And maybe LE should hear about it.
 

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