Is Terri's Odd Behavior Part of Her Plan?

  • #101
ITA! I feel like because there's not enough solid evidence to say Terri is one way or another, some people are trying to normalize her behavior, say it's just ugly coping or anyone would do it under stress. I have been under stress myself, nearly hit rock bottom several times, may not have ever had a murder over my head, but still, I would NEVER do the things she did no matter how stressed out I am. I understand that she's innocent until proven guilty and people want to have sympathy for her, but that doesn't mean her odd, suspicious behavior is suddenly normal. That's not sympathy, that's putting blinders on increasingly erratic behavior because a person doesn't want to believe she did this.

And that can go, depending on the person, all the way to enabling. Look at the Casey Anthony case. Still, to this day, they blame everyone else but Casey for what she's done. It just couldn't have been Casey even though there's still a dead body smell in her car and she was the last to be seen with Caylee. I sometimes wonder if we had a dead body smell in a car here if that would be enough for some people to finally say that maybe she did do this, and maybe her behavior isn't normal, everyday ugly coping behavior.

Um no, it's not. Normal people do NOT cope the way she has. And she hasn't been coping, she's been using people to only serve herself to get out of responsibility for something, whether it's that she hurt Kyron or something else, some other secret she doesn't want to come out. But let me be clear, her behavior is NO WAY normal. Not even a little. I wouldn't let my stepdaughter or anyone in my family get away with behavior like that like it was normal and just a coping mechanism. It is abhorrent and unacceptable behavior, and if we as society start normalizing behavior like this...well wait, we already have. That's why we're so messed up as a society today and kids keep suffering and dying.

IMO you couldn't be MORE correct! I do not care if its the unpopular thing to say, I don't care if its NOT PC to voice what is the so very obvious truth here. Her behavior is ODD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and that is the very NICEST way to put it) It is NOT okay in any way, shape, or form, NOR is it NORMAL. And for heavens sake Baez's BS "ugly coping" claim makes me want to puke:sick:. I am appalled at her behavior and if she is NOT guilty of Kyrons death(and this is what we are dealing with, this child is not holed up watching cartoons and eating junk food somewhere, its very very sad to admit but it is the truth of what we are dealing with) so if she's NOT GUILTY of Kyron's death then why , why, why has she given up her absolute ENTIRE LIFE?? AND I DO MEAN ENTIRE LIFE, HER BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, HER HUSBAND, HER HOME, HER GYM LIFE (which obviously was of great importance to her and she is now BANNED from The Edge Gym), MANY FRIENDS, ANY FUTURE AS A TEACHER FOR WHICH SHE WORKED A LONG TIME TO BECOME, ANY FUTURE PERIOD. IF SHE IS NOT GUILTY THEN WHY IN HE!! DID SHE GIVE HER ENTIRE LIFE UP??!!??... She killed that precious child and I know so many do not want to hear that, BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER HERE, ALL blinders off, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.

MOO IMO
 
  • #102
so if she's NOT GUILTY of Kyron's death then why , why, why has she given up her absolute ENTIRE LIFE?? AND I DO MEAN ENTIRE LIFE, HER BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, HER HUSBAND, HER HOME, HER GYM LIFE (which obviously was of great importance to her and she is now BANNED from The Edge Gym), MANY FRIENDS, ANY FUTURE AS A TEACHER FOR WHICH SHE WORKED A LONG TIME TO BECOME, ANY FUTURE PERIOD. IF SHE IS NOT GUILTY THEN WHY IN HE!! DID SHE GIVE HER ENTIRE LIFE UP??!!??

s/bbm

She didn't give up anything. IIRC, it was taken from her. And loss of any future? That's HER fault if she's innocent????
 
  • #103
(your post snipped by me, but here's my response)

Because she is being publicly vilified for a crime she has not been charged with, was set up to see if she would commit another crime (the landscaper MFH scheme which backfired when the LANDSCAPER demanded money to do a job he claims she asked him to do and her response was to call police....correctly called the police) but still gets accused of setting a MFH plot up.

Her husband filed a restraining order using these two unsubstantiated charges as reason to be granted the RO, which included not being anywhere near her daughter, being banned from her gym, and then being forced out of the only home she's known via a court order and that ever present public opinion that she should not only leave the house, she had some kind of nerve thinking she should stay.

She has not given up her teaching career, if that's what she wants to do; it is the summertime. But I can't imagine it will be easy for her to get a job based on the way things have been going so far.

The law sits in proof beyond a reasonable doubt, even if the public believes it shouldn't have to. I would hope that they don't sit on a jury.
 
  • #104
(your post snipped by me, but here's my response)

Because she is being publicly vilified for a crime she has not been charged with, was set up to see if she would commit another crime (the landscaper MFH scheme which backfired when the LANDSCAPER demanded money to do a job he claims she asked him to do and her response was to call police....correctly called the police) but still gets accused of setting a MFH plot up.

Her husband filed a restraining order using these two unsubstantiated charges as reason to be granted the RO, which included not being anywhere near her daughter, being banned from her gym, and then being forced out of the only home she's known via a court order and that ever present public opinion that she should not only leave the house, she had some kind of nerve thinking she should stay.

She has not given up her teaching career, if that's what she wants to do; it is the summertime. But I can't imagine it will be easy for her to get a job based on the way things have been going so far.

The law sits in proof beyond a reasonable doubt, even if the public believes it shouldn't have to. I would hope that they don't sit on a jury.

Thanks for pointing this out--I think it bears repeating! I have felt like the media's (or LE?) expression of how TH "quickly shut him down" (not an exact quote) has possibly misled people. It's just not specific enough--but, her actions are quite specific. She immediately called the police. I am amazed that she receives no credit for this action...
 
  • #105
ITA! I feel like because there's not enough solid evidence to say Terri is one way or another, some people are trying to normalize her behavior, say it's just ugly coping or anyone would do it under stress. I have been under stress myself, nearly hit rock bottom several times, may not have ever had a murder over my head, but still, I would NEVER do the things she did no matter how stressed out I am. I understand that she's innocent until proven guilty and people want to have sympathy for her, but that doesn't mean her odd, suspicious behavior is suddenly normal. That's not sympathy, that's putting blinders on increasingly erratic behavior because a person doesn't want to believe she did this.

And that can go, depending on the person, all the way to enabling. Look at the Casey Anthony case. Still, to this day, they blame everyone else but Casey for what she's done. It just couldn't have been Casey even though there's still a dead body smell in her car and she was the last to be seen with Caylee. I sometimes wonder if we had a dead body smell in a car here if that would be enough for some people to finally say that maybe she did do this, and maybe her behavior isn't normal, everyday ugly coping behavior.

Um no, it's not. Normal people do NOT cope the way she has. And she hasn't been coping, she's been using people to only serve herself to get out of responsibility for something, whether it's that she hurt Kyron or something else, some other secret she doesn't want to come out. But let me be clear, her behavior is NO WAY normal. Not even a little. I wouldn't let my stepdaughter or anyone in my family get away with behavior like that like it was normal and just a coping mechanism. It is abhorrent and unacceptable behavior, and if we as society start normalizing behavior like this...well wait, we already have. That's why we're so messed up as a society today and kids keep suffering and dying.


A simple click of the thank you button is not enough for this. Thank you for saying what I was thinking. Very excellent post!
 
  • #106
... if she's NOT GUILTY of Kyron's death then why , why, why has she given up her absolute ENTIRE LIFE??

Given up her entire life? As far as I know, Terri Horman took Kyron to school that morning and toured the exhibits with him and proudly took his picture in front of his own exhibit and then left him at the school in the assumed safety of his teachers and educational environment. Since then, her life has been TAKEN from her, IMO.


She killed that precious child and I know so many do not want to hear that, BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER HERE, ALL blinders off, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.

BBM

Link please. I don't know of any MSM links or LE statements that have proven such a "truth".
 
  • #107
Thanks for pointing this out--I think it bears repeating! I have felt like the media's (or LE?) expression of how TH "quickly shut him down" (not an exact quote) has possibly misled people. It's just not specific enough--but, her actions are quite specific. She immediately called the police. I am amazed that she receives no credit for this action...

That's an interesting point, gardeness. I hadn't thought about it, but if I had made (or tried to make) serious plans with someone to off my husband, I am not sure I would call LE on him to give him a clear window to tell on me. Of course, it is also likely she knew it was a sting, which meant LE already knew about it. Still... I don't know if I'd call 911 and attract so much media attention. Hmm.

(That's not an opinion on her guilt or innocence on this matter, just a personal reflection on what I would do in that place.)
 
  • #108
Thanks for pointing this out--I think it bears repeating! I have felt like the media's (or LE?) expression of how TH "quickly shut him down" (not an exact quote) has possibly misled people. It's just not specific enough--but, her actions are quite specific. She immediately called the police. I am amazed that she receives no credit for this action...

she knows this guy. LE knows that she knows this guy by her cell records.

She knows the relationship that she has had with him. She's probably terrified about what he is capable of doing and he has another unknown man with him.

What else could she do but call LE and play it by ear when they arrive.
 
  • #109
Then why can she not pass two polys? why is she not being honest with her whereabouts on the day Kyron disappeared? She already been labeled as guilty for A MFH plot and sext-capades with two different men (and thats per LE as said in court documents MFH and her gawd awful sext-capades) so if she is not guilty of Kyrons "disappearing" then can it be agreed that she is indeed hiding "something"? Probably not. But that is ok, too. Because blinders off it should at the very least be noted that she is indeed hiding/covering "something" and my point is that "something" must be worse than MFH and sext-capades , along with the uptmost of inappropriate behavior, and IMO that "something" [could be] the death of her innocent stepson, others may speculate an affair, etc, but that really just does not add up. HONESTLY, it does NOT. ITS MY OPINION AND IM ENTITLED TO IT. As I said I could care less if its the UNpopular thing to say and don't need anyone to agree with my opinion. The truth will prevail in all of this and my ONLY prayer is that sure, firm, and swift judgement be dealt on behalf of this innocent, big blue eyed little boy, Kyron!
 
  • #110
You guys need to calm down NOW. This thread is closing while everyone reads this:

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  • #111
she knows this guy. LE knows that she knows this guy by her cell records.

She knows the relationship that she has had with him. She's probably terrified about what he is capable of doing and he has another unknown man with him.

What else could she do but call LE and play it by ear when they arrive.

Just a little pre-emptive strike here.

I have made numerous calls cell-to-cell with my landscaper over the last year. I have never asked him to kill anyone or anything but the weeds in my back yard. We've never been romantically involved.

Just a public statement in case I'm ever accused of *whatever* somewhere down the line...
 
  • #112
Okay, we are opening up again. Suggestion: don't post when all wound up! If we get anymore alerts, it won't be pretty! :nono:
 
  • #113
she knows this guy. LE knows that she knows this guy by her cell records.

She knows the relationship that she has had with him. She's probably terrified about what he is capable of doing and he has another unknown man with him.

What else could she do but call LE and play it by ear when they arrive.

I haven't seen this--will you provide a link for me? Thank you!!
 
  • #114
She might have known the guy, but I tell ya what, if my guy who helped me remodel my kitchen suddenly showed up at my door and demanded $10K to kill someone for me or they're going to the cops to tell them I was the one who asked him to do it, I'd be making that call myownself. "Uh, I have a guy here threatening to blackmail me about something which I never asked him to do and demanding I pay him or he's gonna tell you that I did it."

Yes, she might have known him. Yes, she may have had sexts with him. Yes she might have played twister for all I know. But this sting was the landscaper asking her for money, not her coming to him to say she'll pay him money to do it, and her response was correct. She called the police.
 
  • #115
Just a little pre-emptive strike here.

I have made numerous calls cell-to-cell with my landscaper over the last year. I have never asked him to kill anyone or anything but the weeds in my back yard. We've never been romantically involved.

Just a public statement in case I'm ever accused of *whatever* somewhere down the line...

Yeah, but did you send him pictures of..um..body parts?(wink wink):blushing:
 
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  • #118
Just suppose, for a few minutes, that Terri is innocent. Is there anything she has done that is odd if she is?
Imagine your precious step-son, who you love dearly, has been stolen. I would be somewhat hysterical and in shock.
I would wonder what I could have done that would have made a difference. I would feel guilt for maybe being in a hurry to get my errands done and get to the gym or home to my computer games.
I would be trying to figure out along with the rest of the family where he might be. I would be answering all of LE's questions and I hope I would have a good memory of exactly where I was at what time and what all I did while I was running around.
I would be so worried that my husband might think I was neglectful, especially if we had been having some rough times.
I fail the polygraph but I know I am telling the truth and I can't figure out why it is showing deception. I tell my friend because my family is starting to question me and won't believe the truth. I feel as though I am being persecuted by the ones who are supposed to love me.
I am on anti-depressants (not for PPD) and they make me drowsy sometimes and I am sometimes in a 'zone'. By that I mean I just feel I am on auto pilot and not always aware of what is going on around me. I don't know if she is still taking meds but I do know they take some time to get out of your system. They can also give me a flat affect at times.
My own anxiety may be making things I does appear strange.
My husband tells me not to speak to media. In fact none of us do for a week. Then we all hold a press conference and after that it is kept to bio parents. So I never speak out.
Then my husband leaves. e are fighting things, are bad, but I feel ultimately they will figure out I had nothing to do with this.
At that point I would not have spoken either. I tell a reporter things are fine even though we are starting to feel the stress of living in the limelight. It's not his business how we are.
The same day some guy I may have been seeing shows up demanding money to kill my husband. Now my pi**ed off ex lover has told LE about our affair and lied about MFH.
Le tells my husband the LS story and because of texts he believes both the affair and MFH.
Now my husband files for divorce and an RO. I can't see my baby.
I am freaking out. My parents are trying to keep me from killing myself. I am devastated. I can't do anything. I am completely useless and I don't know what to do.
So my friends and parents get me to see an attorney. All they can see is I am getting blamed for something I am just not capable of. I can't even take care of my self. How can I even think of taking care of my baby.

Ok I am done now.
 
  • #119
Being odd doesn't make someone a murderer. Neither does being different.
 
  • #120
Yeah, but did you send him pictures of..um..body parts?(wink wink):blushing:

LOL


No, but I did send him photos of the ick on my rhododendrons.
 

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