Is Terri's Odd Behavior Part of Her Plan?

[Chewy]

The googling of the address could just be simple curiosity. I probably would do the same thing.

To me I agree that the thing that makes me think she has something to do with it is quite frankly the look on her face during the PC. She seemed completely detatched and her expression reminded me of someone who is looking "at" something, that is recalling what happened.

It could well be that she had a psychotic break and did something to Kyron but doesn't remember it, but then again I would suspect they would have found him by now.

Then again I wonder if DY is coming out and saying from day one on the cell phone to Terri "what did you do to him?" I would be suspicious that maybe she just shut down.

Usually the simplest answer is the right one and in this case so much periphial nonsense has shown up it is hard to keep it straight.

Either someone abducted him or she did it on purpose.

 

[Billylee]

Does anyone else think that Terri could be covering up for someone else? And that's why Kaine is insinuating there's someone else involved?

 

[Billylee]

Maybe just me, but when I watch TH on the screen, no matter which video, she looks most of all to me; "determined". Determined to do what or prove what I dunno.

She doesn't portray the poor innocent me, she doesn't seem to be mournful, she just seems.......determined and strong. This really makes me wonder if it is a front to cover up for someone else. The kind of determination a mother has when grabbing her child by the hand and standing up for her children, not her own self. Chin up, no hiding of the face, eyes, no cunning, look what I got away with look. It's very "determined" and perhaps there's a better word, but that's what I see.

I'm not so sure she's acting. I'm leaning more towards she acting that way because of something she's "determined" to do, or prove or I guess, yes, maybe even get away with.

Am I making sense? JMO

 

[nanny2five]

Maybe just me, but when I watch TH on the screen, no matter which video, she looks most of all to me; "determined". Determined to do what or prove what I dunno.

She doesn't portray the poor innocent me, she doesn't seem to be mournful, she just seems.......determined and strong. This really makes me wonder if it is a front to cover up for someone else. The kind of determination a mother has when grabbing her child by the hand and standing up for her children, not her own self. Chin up, no hiding of the face, eyes, no cunning, look what I got away with look. It's very "determined" and perhaps there's a better word, but that's what I see.

I'm not so sure she's acting. I'm leaning more towards she acting that way because of something she's "determined" to do, or prove or I guess, yes, maybe even get away with.

Am I making sense? JMO

bbm
i think you made perfect sense, billylee. i havent really formed an opinion yet about whether i think TH did something to Kyron or not, but i know exactly the determined look you are speaking of, and it reminds me of my sister who in her younger days was a bald faced liar and would do anything (lie, cheat, steal) to get what she wanted. anytime she was backed into a corner she would get that determined look and i knew there was no talking her down. it didnt matter if there was video of her doing whatever, she wouldnt admit it. and i have seen that look on TH. there really isnt enough evidence out yet for me to convict her, but i am glad you brought this up because i noticed it the first time they appeared in public.

 

[SmoothOperator]

The only odd behavior is reported second hand. "she asked me to kill her husband" "we think she reacted weird to failing the lie detector" (and what exactly did she fail at - which questions?) I haven't seen direct evidence of odd behavior.

saying you hit the gym on FB is not odd IMO. suppose you have a hundred close friends wondering how you are doing and so after you exercise to relieve stress you re-assure all of them that you hit the gym and now most of them will react "oh good, Terri must of relieved some stress, I am reassured she is OK."

what I want to know is if she dropped off her cell phone on SI BEFORE school, did whatever to Kyron, then went to pick up the phone. Because if she did that it was a CSI double switch back. Has a criminal even ever used that on TV? - Plant a cell phone in a place, knowing it would be pinged, to throw off LE? Did she get that idea from TV? (if that is what she did) because if she did that then, yes, that is very odd behavior. and pre-meditated.

If she put a CSI shirt on the child knowing what was going to happen, wow, that blows my mind. BTW IMO having a child wear a CSI shirt is wrong to me anyway.

I wish I knew when the pings were and what her debit/credit card receipts show.

Your above post reminded me of this post I read from a couple weeks ago that seems to be on same exact track of what you are talking about..

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... BUT BACK TO DISAPPEARANCE OF KYRON and the thought that it was ALL PLANNED OUT. With TMH being a huge fan of crime shows(by her own admission CSI)we know they show LE using such technology as cell phone pings to track/trace a perps movements therefore leading LE to their guilty man. That said, she would have CERTAINLY known for a fact that her movements of that day would be so very easily tracked/traced by her cell phone.(I am not an avid watcher of the crime shows and know this to be a fact).. So, in her planning of Kyron's abduction(perhaps murder) her knowledge of this cell phone fact she could have decided to use to her benefit.. Let me explain.. What if she infact WANTED her movements thru out the day of June 4th to be traced/tracked to Sauvie Island. When infact she was no where near Sauvie Island on this day(except for dropping off phone/picking up phone from SI). Lets say she dropped the phone off on SI sometime that morning(this could be why LE says her cell phone pings don't mesh with her timeline of being at the school)because according to the cell phone pings she was already on SI and according to the pings she stayed on SI for several hours. When infact she had just taken her phone to SI(couldve been anywhere on that island, even just placed quickly off the side of the road in a ditch and later returned to retrieve it from that ditch)AFTER she had taken Kyron to an all together COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, NOWHERE NEAR NEAR SI where her cell phone pings would show her being at (when instead she went an entirely different route and direction with Kyron)... Therefore there would be no trace/track of her movements that day(atleast not thru the technology of the cell phone)it would appear that she was at SI for several hours that day when infact the cell phone was strategically placed on SI, she left without the phone and went on with her nefarious plans for Kyron and then only when COMPLETELY DONE with all that plan entailed did she return to SI to retrieve the strategically placed phone, which would then appear(by the cell pings)that she was JUST THEN leaving SI...So, if she was a fan of all the true crime and it would seem that there has been perhaps months of planning(i.e. murder for hire, then revised to get rid of Kyron first for whatever reasons, some I explained above).. It would certainly seem plausible (IMO) that she would use some knowledge of how technology "catches the perps" she instead use it to her advantage to "outsmart the cops"(and I've heard this mentioned several times does TMH think she can outsmart LE? my answer is yes(IMO) I think she certainly thinks she can outsmart and outwit these cops, I think she tried to think "steps ahead of them") I just hope for little Kyron's sake that LE is/has been onto her [IMO] long planned disappearance and/or murder of her innocent little step son...

This seems very plausible to me

 

[Barry]

My mind is flat today, so forgive me if there are a lot of examples, and I'm missing them. It seems to have become "fact" that TH is a chronic liar. But, as I try to sit here and come up with concrete examples, I'm basically drawing a blank. The one that comes to mind, seems to be more of a "denial" thing, that being when she told a reporter that everything was fine (or something like that), when obviously it wasn't. In fact she hasn't said much publicly in order to establish she's a chronic liar. It's been said a lot that she is a liar.

So, I'm not sure if I'm missing a lot of things (quite possible), or if the ideas that it seems like the PC's were trying to plant in peoples heads are working to some extent. IMO, maybe to the public, TH is becoming the person that we are being told she is, when that may or may not totally be what she is.

Her behavior at the first PC was very odd to say the least. She could be an odd duck.

If it looks like an odd duck, and quacks like an odd duck..... :crazy:

Anyway just Moo, from someone who is burnt out today.

 

[AbbieNormal]

I misunderstood your post then. My answer in that case would be no, I don't think she's engaged in intentional odd behavior because I haven't seen (heard of) any odd behavior on her part at all.

This will make me unpopular, I don't care. I have seen nothing BUT odd behavior on TH's part. In my world you don't go on a sexting rampage with your husbands friend AFTER your stepson goes missing. Don't care, ain't normal. Its ODD. You don't let your spouse take your baby away with not so much as a whimper about wanting her back, its ODD. You don't have a story that LE cannot confirm as true for the time spent doing unknown things while your stepson is missing from school, its ODD. You don't flunk two polys (walk out on one) it's ODD. You don't make plans to supposedly kidnap your baby from gym daycare, thats ODD behavior.
Everything I have seen from TH, including her BS act up in front of the media at the pressers that was supposed to pass for "devastated", was ODD. Everyone here saw it and many people commented on it.
Now the tide has shifted and everyone is saying theres nothing odd about TH.

I find that ODD in itself.

JMO

 

[Chewy]

I just watched Toxic on 48 Hours (on my laptop) and I was struck by how similar Ann Miller Kontz's behavior is to TH. Really interesting to watch.

Having watched this and listened to the point about how much investigation people have about a suspect I am going to go right back off the fence. TH sounds exactly like this person.

Very strange and ODD indeed.

 

[Aedrys]

This will make me unpopular, I don't care. I have seen nothing BUT odd behavior on TH's part. In my world you don't go on a sexting rampage with your husbands friend AFTER your stepson goes missing. Don't care, ain't normal. Its ODD. You don't let your spouse take your baby away with not so much as a whimper about wanting her back, its ODD. You don't have a story that LE cannot confirm as true for the time spent doing unknown things while your stepson is missing from school, its ODD. You don't flunk two polys (walk out on one) it's ODD. You don't make plans to supposedly kidnap your baby from gym daycare, thats ODD behavior.
Everything I have seen from TH, including her BS act up in front of the media at the pressers that was supposed to pass for "devastated", was ODD. Everyone here saw it and many people commented on it.
Now the tide has shifted and everyone is saying theres nothing odd about TH.

I find that ODD in itself.

JMO

ITA! I feel like because there's not enough solid evidence to say Terri is one way or another, some people are trying to normalize her behavior, say it's just ugly coping or anyone would do it under stress. I have been under stress myself, nearly hit rock bottom several times, may not have ever had a murder over my head, but still, I would NEVER do the things she did no matter how stressed out I am. I understand that she's innocent until proven guilty and people want to have sympathy for her, but that doesn't mean her odd, suspicious behavior is suddenly normal. That's not sympathy, that's putting blinders on increasingly erratic behavior because a person doesn't want to believe she did this.

And that can go, depending on the person, all the way to enabling. Look at the Casey Anthony case. Still, to this day, they blame everyone else but Casey for what she's done. It just couldn't have been Casey even though there's still a dead body smell in her car and she was the last to be seen with Caylee. I sometimes wonder if we had a dead body smell in a car here if that would be enough for some people to finally say that maybe she did do this, and maybe her behavior isn't normal, everyday ugly coping behavior.

Um no, it's not. Normal people do NOT cope the way she has. And she hasn't been coping, she's been using people to only serve herself to get out of responsibility for something, whether it's that she hurt Kyron or something else, some other secret she doesn't want to come out. But let me be clear, her behavior is NO WAY normal. Not even a little. I wouldn't let my stepdaughter or anyone in my family get away with behavior like that like it was normal and just a coping mechanism. It is abhorrent and unacceptable behavior, and if we as society start normalizing behavior like this...well wait, we already have. That's why we're so messed up as a society today and kids keep suffering and dying.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

ITA! I feel like because there's not enough solid evidence to say Terri is one way or another, some people are trying to normalize her behavior, say it's just ugly coping or anyone would do it under stress. I have been under stress myself, nearly hit rock bottom several times, may not have ever had a murder over my head, but still, I would NEVER do the things she did no matter how stressed out I am. I understand that she's innocent until proven guilty and people want to have sympathy for her, but that doesn't mean her odd, suspicious behavior is suddenly normal. That's not sympathy, that's putting blinders on increasingly erratic behavior because a person doesn't want to believe she did this.

And that can go, depending on the person, all the way to enabling. Look at the Casey Anthony case. Still, to this day, they blame everyone else but Casey for what she's done. It just couldn't have been Casey even though there's still a dead body smell in her car and she was the last to be seen with Caylee. I sometimes wonder if we had a dead body smell in a car here if that would be enough for some people to finally say that maybe she did do this, and maybe her behavior isn't normal, everyday ugly coping behavior.

Um no, it's not. Normal people do NOT cope the way she has. And she hasn't been coping, she's been using people to only serve herself to get out of responsibility for something, whether it's that she hurt Kyron or something else, some other secret she doesn't want to come out. But let me be clear, her behavior is NO WAY normal. Not even a little. I wouldn't let my stepdaughter or anyone in my family get away with behavior like that like it was normal and just a coping mechanism. It is abhorrent and unacceptable behavior, and if we as society start normalizing behavior like this...well wait, we already have. That's why we're so messed up as a society today and kids keep suffering and dying.

BBM

For my part, I do not "normalize" anything here because I feel sympathy for TH. I am not blinded by some irrational desire to have her be innocent. I have a mind, and I am not blinded, befuddled or willfully ignorant, AFAIK. I am an educated and reasonable human being, in my estimation, and I don't believe my opinions are simply rooted in being misguided - I just don't see enough evidence for me to get my pitchfork out. Perhaps if I were more emotional, I would be ready to chuck a match on the pyre. As it is, I'm not ready to do that.

I fully understand that it is highly probable that TH did this, due to being a close acquaintance and the last known person to see Kyron. If she is proven guilty, than lock her away with my blessings. But, as it is, I am merely a rubber necker to this tragedy, and I am not terribly interested in spewing venom on someone based on second hand, filtered accounts. Until LE speaks, I have every right to reserve judgement beyond what I have opined in this case so far.

If that is some irrational hysteria on my part, then I am not aware of it. (Though, I guess, if I am just being an emotional puppet, I wouldn't be aware of it, so I guess I'm just buggered.)


ETA: The main reason I am particularly noncommittal in this thread is because, ultimately, I remain unconvinced that pursing my lips and tsk tsking TH's sexual proclivities would really help me understand this case any better. (No offence intended to those who think it will help them - it's just not in my field of priorities, I guess.)

ETA2: To be blunt, I know it's annoying when people don't get fired up over something we think they should. Honestly, I understand that, and have felt it myself. I am simply trying to point out there are options for some of us other than "guilty" or "innocent" right now - there is merely reserving the fire, which is what I have opted to do, leaving my personal suspicions out for now. If LE names her or arrests her, then we will have something to go on. Until then, I am just waiting, and hoping.

All simply MOO, of course.

 

[BeanE]

BBM

For my part, I do not "normalize" anything here because I feel sympathy for TH. I am not blinded by some irrational desire to have her be innocent. I have a mind, and I am not blinded, befuddled or willfully ignorant, AFAIK. I am educated and reasonable human being, in my estimation, and I my opinions are not rooted in being misguided - I just don't see enough evidence for me to get my pitchfork out. Perhaps if I were more emotional, I would be ready to chuck a match on the pyre. As it is, I'm not ready to do that.

I fully understand that it is highly probable that TH did this, due to being a close acquaintance and the last known person to see Kyron. If she is proven guilty, than lock her away with my blessings. But, as it is, I am merely a rubber necker to this tragedy, and I am not terribly interested in spewing venom on someone based on second hand, filtered accounts. Until LE speaks, I have every right to reserve judgement beyond what I have opined in this case so far.

If that is some irrational hysteria on my part, then I am not aware of it. (Though, I guess, if I am just being an emotional puppet, I wouldn't be aware of it, so I guess I'm just buggered.)

What WhyaDuck said.

 

[sorrell skye]

Mid-life crisis at 40? Oh heavens no! IMO, 40 is the new 20! LOL! :dance:

Amen sistah! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

 

[debs]

What WhyaDuck said.

What BeanE said.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Amen sistah! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Not me - I officially declared middle age at 30. I can't afford to live much past 60 on my savings.

 

[sorrell skye]

Not me - I officially declared middle age at 30. I can't afford to live much past 60 on my savings.

lol lol

That's why I've invested in the boy toy - I plan on retiring early.

 

[sorrell skye]

What BeanE said.

What debs said.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

What WhyaDuck said.

What BeanE said.

What debs said.

I am Spartacus!

Wait... that was a movie. :waitasec:

 

[Emma Peel]

What debs said.

debs says a lot. could you be more specific? :waitasec:

:dance:

 

[Emma Peel]

I am Spartacus!

Wait... that was a movie. :waitasec:

Out, out damned spot!

wait ... was that Monica Lewinsky? :angel:

 

[Calliope]

What WhyaDuck said.

Ditto.