Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #9

[sds71]

Four Moldovan nationals are strongly suspected of being behind some of the 250 Star of David tags found on walls in Paris and its suburbs over the past 10 days. One couple was arrested on October 27, another is on the run. French intelligence agencies now firmly believe it was an external attempt at destabilization. In a press release issued on Tuesday, November 7, the Paris prosecutor said that the examination of telephone data "suggests that the two pairs of perpetrators were in touch with the same third person." The prosecutor also stated that "at this stage, it cannot be ruled out that the marking of the blue Stars of David in the Paris region was carried out at the express request of a person living abroad." The investigation has now been handed to an investigating magistrate.

Stars of David graffiti in Paris: Russian interference suspected

French intelligence services believe the act was commissioned by the Moldovan businessman Anatolii Prizenko. Images were widely shared by the 'Doppelgänger' pro-Russian propaganda network.

www.lemonde.fr

 

[Momoffourboys]

This is Ahmed Tsiam, aka Abu Hamza, a Hamas commander. He is currently in the Al-Rantisi hospital, forcefully refusing to allow the 1000 Gazans seeking shelter there to evacuate and go down south for their protection. Hamas is using Gaza's sickly as human shields.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722326409450823967

 

[PrairieWind]

I wonder if ordinary civilians in Gaza actually know all that though. I wonder if Israel has ever tried to do leaflet campaigns to educate Gazan civilians about Hamas. I’m sure they have but if not, it seems like it would be a good idea to drop leaflets showing the net worth of the individuals that run Hamas, pictures of their luxurious mansions, etc.

I wonder how ordinary Gazans would feel knowing that many of the people who were killed or taken hostage are peace activists that want to see a solution that benefits Gazans as well as Israelis. I wonder how they would react if they knew that.

Israel drops leaflets in Gaza offering reward for hostage information

Israel's military dropped leaflets in Gaza on Tuesday, urging Palestinians to give them information about hostages being held by Hamas and offering them protection and a reward.

www.reuters.com

Leaflets

 

[Dotta]

Israel drops leaflets in Gaza offering reward for hostage information

Israel's military dropped leaflets in Gaza on Tuesday, urging Palestinians to give them information about hostages being held by Hamas and offering them protection and a reward.

www.reuters.com

Leaflets

I doubt anybody will give info.
Such a person would be asking for death for oneself and the family as traitors.
Hamas has "long arms" for those who betray the organization.

Hostages are "bargaining card" for Hamas.
They want to exchange them for their "comrades" kept in Israeli prisons.

I guess only selected few know the place where the hostages are kept.

They surely are well guarded.

JMO

 

[Wishbone]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/07/world/gaza-death-toll-accuracy-unicef-intl-hnk/index.html

A UNICEF spokesperson has defended the death toll being reported out of Gaza, saying the organization’s figures had historically matched those of the Hamas-controlled Gazan health ministry.

More than 10,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli airstrikes in the past month – including thousands of women, children and elderly, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Ramallah, drawing from sources in Hamas-controlled Gaza.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Coordinator for the U.S. National Security Council, John Kirby made it clear today that the White House and Department of Defense both do not Support any kind of “General Ceasefire” in Gaza as it would only Help and Legitimize the Hamas Terrorist Organization and their Control over Gaza; however he said they do Support several Small-Pauses in Fighting which could be used for Negotiations and/or Humanitarian Purposes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722327403010089165

 

[Momoffourboys]

UNRWA school celebrates Hamas's 'jihad warriors' in Gaza - report​

An UNRWA school in the West Bank posted a video of students celebrating Jihad against Jews, as several October 7 terrorists were found to have graduated from UNRWA schools in Gaza.​

UNRWA school celebrates Hamas's 'jihad warriors' in Gaza - report | The Jerusalem Post

An UNRWA school in the West Bank posted a video of students celebrating Jihad against Jews, as several October 7 terrorists were found to have graduated from UNRWA schools in Gaza.

www.jpost.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

The United Stated has stated today that they do not have Evidence that any of the Hostages are Dead, but that they have not seen an “Proof of Life” for the roughly 240 Hostages being held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip since October 7th

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722344657265287283

 

[Arkay]

UNRWA school celebrates Hamas's 'jihad warriors' in Gaza - report​

An UNRWA school in the West Bank posted a video of students celebrating Jihad against Jews, as several October 7 terrorists were found to have graduated from UNRWA schools in Gaza.​

UNRWA school celebrates Hamas's 'jihad warriors' in Gaza - report | The Jerusalem Post

An UNRWA school in the West Bank posted a video of students celebrating Jihad against Jews, as several October 7 terrorists were found to have graduated from UNRWA schools in Gaza.

www.jpost.com

I know it’s not possible, but I dearly wish there were some way I could request from the I.R.A. that my personal taxes would be diverted from UNWRA and the like.

IMO it’s like I’m paying to encourage the spread of cancer, helping it to metastasize throughout the world.

In this analogy I see Israel as the chemotherapy. Diligently attempting to extinguish the dangerous cells, while doing the least possible harm to the good cells.

Anyone who has been through chemo knows that invariably, some healthy cells will indeed suffer for awhile, but eventually if the chemo can root out the cancer, the body will regain its health.

I want to contribute to the chemo and not the cancer.

JMO

 

[PapillonVert]

Israel drops leaflets in Gaza offering reward for hostage information

Israel's military dropped leaflets in Gaza on Tuesday, urging Palestinians to give them information about hostages being held by Hamas and offering them protection and a reward.

www.reuters.com

Leaflets

Yes, I had seen that. I think that’s great that they did that. I was thinking of more of a detailed information campaign, one that highlights the worst characteristics Hamas has. For instance, I wonder if people in Gaza understand that Hamas’s intention is to keep Gaza perpetually in war rather than to actually provide them with economic stability, or any path to the future.

Hamas reveals its plan for 'permanent war with Israel'

At least 10,569 Palestinians have been killed since October 7. Hamas media adviser Taher El Nounou said the carnage was necessary to 'change the entire equation'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Wishbone]

The United Stated has stated today that they do not have Evidence that any of the Hostages are Dead, but that they have not seen an “Proof of Life” for the roughly 240 Hostages being held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip since October 7th

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722344657265287283

With the thousands of bombs having been leveled on Gaza it's more than likely that some of the hostages have met their end along with the Palestinians.

 

[Momoffourboys]

With the thousands of bombs having been leveled on Gaza it's more than likely that some of the hostages have met their end along with the Palestinians.

The US and Israel governments think otherwise.

 

[Momoffourboys]

In a meeting with local council leaders from West Bank settlements, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warns about a minority of extremists carrying out violent activity that could lead to an escalation in the area.
…

“We are not prepared to tolerate this,” he says, “and we will work against this in every way. It causes huge international damage to the State of Israel and does not represent the people sitting here.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pm-to-settler-leaders-we-cannot-tolerate-extremists-taking-the-law-into-their-hands/

 

[Momoffourboys]

The soldiers are also protecting Gazan civilians. I saw Gazans trying to escape, shouting at the IDF "help us" because Hamas is shooting at them,'Our
@MatthiasInbar, one of the first journalists to see what IDF's humanitarian corridor looks like, recounts his experience

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722347369277051340

 

[PrairieWind]

With the thousands of bombs having been leveled on Gaza it's more than likely that some of the hostages have met their end along with the Palestinians.

I'm sure a lot of the hostages are dead. Some probably died Oct 7 from injuries sustained in the attack, some by torture inflicted later, and some in the fighting that has ensued. Hamas still will keep their fates in limbo as long as they can to try to leverage some advantage, and then ultimately claim that it was the Israelis that killed them. The valuable hostages are likely deep in the tunnels. But as the noose tightens, I don't think there is much hope for them.

 

[Dotta]

In a meeting with local council leaders from West Bank settlements, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warns about a minority of extremists carrying out violent activity that could lead to an escalation in the area.
…

“We are not prepared to tolerate this,” he says, “and we will work against this in every way. It causes huge international damage to the State of Israel and does not represent the people sitting here.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/pm-to-settler-leaders-we-cannot-tolerate-extremists-taking-the-law-into-their-hands/

Yes!
Music to my ears haha
Thank you

This issue really makes me MAD
And I live far away - I'm not Jewish or Palestinian/Arab - but STILL!
I despise stealing.

 

[PrairieWind]

The US and Israel governments think otherwise.

Well I think the US has said that while there is no affirmative reason to believe they are dead, they also have not received any proof of life on them since their abduction on Oct 7.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Well I think the US has said that while there is no affirmative reason to believe they are dead, they also have not received any proof of life on them since their abduction on Oct 7.

True. Can’t expect anyone who butchers, burns, rapes and beheads to follow the guidelines of international law.

 

[Dotta]

True. Can’t expect anyone who butchers, burns, rapes and beheads to follow the guidelines of international law.

IMO
The hostages are well guarded and treated well.
Simply because they are too important to Hamas to hurt them (physically, I mean).

Thanks to these poor people, Hamas retains some kind of power.

They can ask for anything in exchange for hostages.
Especially that they keep people of many nationalities.

I wonder if they made some deal with Russia and if Russian hostages were freed??

But it is only my opinion.

 

[Cryptic]

Oct. 7th will be repeated ad nauseam.
Hamas needs to be destroyed.
All of them.
Plus the leaders who are safely hiding like cowards in other countries.
Omo.

I agree completely.

Then.... there needs to be some fundamental changes to the way Israel conducts business in the West Bank and Gaza.

There is no military solution to the long term conflict. As a result, no amount of superior weaponry matters.