jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 9TH DAY #48 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Davia18]

If a defendant is caught in a lie, the rule should be they go right to the Death Penalty with no appeal. This would be a motivator to tell the truth, and dramatically shorten Trials.

So did you dye your hair or not? And is it worth your life to lie about it? You jumped up like superwoman and found a gun in the attic cocked and loaded? really?

You shot him in the face and he proceeded to run and chase you calling you names for 10 minutes?

I agree, would cut down on these kinds of killings. I'm harsh though and feel the justice system has become so crazy. We have come up with so many new things to get people off and get away with these crimes it's just crazy to me. I'm only 33 so not from the old ways but the new ones and I don't like them. I think I was born in the wrong century LOL MOO

 

[SoBeCzar]

Ok, I have a question. Jodi claims she saw Travis looking at pictures of little boys in the afternoon. But Juan discredited her by pulling up those texts from Jodi and Travis talking about her getting off of work at 5pm and trading cars, etc. is that right? Or am I getting my days confused?

Yes and she even offered him lunch. When Juan questioned her about going to lunch with TA after she caught him JA said it was to make him feel better. She said something about if it were her she would have wanted to jump off a cliff after getting caught doing that. And she is smirking and obviously enjoying taking another jab at TA.

 

[sumbunny]

Lots of good points_ great post.
I agree she took the pics of herself using the timer on the camera.

The peace sign not sure of, but now you have me curious so going to go back and look at all the pics of TA I can find.

Also I can tell you my BF always sits down in the shower. I thought it was strange when we 1st started dating , now I like it as he sits in the shower and visits with me as I shower.

I agree with you. I do believe the pictures of Travis weren't posed (on the bed), and he was caught off-guard. I believe she posed for those pictures herself as well, with a timer, in hopes of when he brought his camera to cancun that he'd not realize they were on there, and when showing others pictures he'd taken he'd have a woopsie moment, where his travel companion would come across them.

Also, i believe travis' shower pictures were done under duress. Jodi came back and surprised him, then forced him to pose. I've said since the day i saw that last picture that Travis looked as though he knew his death was fast approaching. He's tearful.

I believe they may have fought about those pictures she took of herself on his camera..and travis knew exactly what her ploy was.


All MOO..

 

[LambChop]

Watching the replay this morning, I couldn't stop thinking about her parents. Imagine her father confronting this when she sneaks in at 5:00 AM after having snuck out despite being grounded and staying out all night with her friends. If all her dad did was shove her, I'd say he was very restrained. I have no doubt she was a defiant, insolent, disrespectful child and teenager. The apparent physical vulnerability shouldn't fool anyone. She's not a pushover, and she's been actively practicing not letting anyone push her over, or thwart her will, ever since childhood.

She's still furious at Travis. You can see it in the smug expression while she watches his sisters listen to the journal entries. If she could get at him now, she'd find new ways to continue killing him.

My heart goes out to her Dad. The few shots they showed of him in court he looked as if he was looking at a monster in a compassionate sort of way. I think she gave him a run for his money. Disconnected her car so she could not use it tells us she was a handful. She had a car so they were generous to her. I don't think her father ever pushed her. I think he grabbed her and she pulled away and fell. I think she used the word "betrayed" because that is how she felt after her mother sided with the father against Jodi. I think it's possible she told lies to cause trouble between her parents. Divide and conquor. It's her MO. jmo

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

And I don't advocate hitting ever.. I was never spanked etc. BUT wow after watching her on the stand, she is rude, defiant, controlling, snickers, has NO fear of any person of authority, I can see how she got on her parents last nerve and a wooden spoon came out. Heck, that sounds mild now that I see this gal in action.

And her dad shoving her.. Well I just don't believe it now, I think he may have been irate, angry and confronted her and could have done the dad put his arm out to stop you from marching off or slamming a door and she does a prat fall like you see at Universal Studios and fake falls, hits her head, goes all dramatic on him.

She is the bad seed.

Jodi has a lot more hatred for her mom and the wooden spoon then for her dad and getting flung across a door jam. Why is that? IMO the incident with dad isn't the truth. When Jodi talks about her mom and the wooden spoon she is angry and enraged. To this day she is enraged by it. The dad escapes this wraith because what happened is very different. I bet Jodi traipsed in home after a wild night out and I think she had too much to drink. She couldn't give her dad a satisfactory answer, she couldn't give her dad any answer, and her dad hit her. He asked the same question, she is still intoxicated and he goes to hit her and she recoils and falls back against whatever is behind her. Jodi looks down on people who drink. Jodi must be in control and she understood drinking is detrimental to her maintaining control.

Jodi's dad hit her while she was not herself but her mom hit her while she was herself. IMO dad is forgiven.

 

[kaki]

Did this scene play out With TA and JA?

http://youtu.be/DM64Y8ndyG4

 

[RR0004]

Yes and she even offered him lunch. When Juan questioned her about going to lunch with TA after she caught him JA said it was to make him feel better. She said something about if it were her she would have wanted to jump off a cliff after getting caught doing that. And she is smirking and obviously enjoying taking another jab at TA.

...and Travis eats lunch at dinner time. I think she was trying to set up another time to meet him...plain and simple.

 

[Candy_Pickletoes]

Hi everyone! Listening to the cross for the 2nd time, intend to finish and listen for a 3rd time. That's how I watch movies too, if a movie holds my interest I will watch it a 2nd and 3rd time, I always catch something new. So fun fun!

Here's hoping everyone is doing well this fine Friday!

 

[Snoopy1]

Lots of good points_ great post.
I agree she took the pics of herself using the timer on the camera.

The peace sign not sure of, but now you have me curious so going to go back and look at all the pics of TA I can find.

Also I can tell you my BF always sits down in the shower. I thought it was strange when we 1st started dating , now I like it as he sits in the shower and visits with me as I shower.

My husband does this as well. Doesnt strike me as weird at all. He has since the day we met. Also, he stretches in the shower (ie, places his hands above his head on the wall and kinda stretches out his back - he's tall and his torso is longer than normal, extra vertibre) So TA doing that in the pictures doesnt strike me as odd.

Also, I disagree with PP about the pictures and him sitting/kneeling the whole time. The pictures are from HER kneeling and taking pics from below him, not above. You can tell by the shot of him facing the back wall (opposite the shower head). You can see the shower head is not that far from his head and above the tile line on the wall.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

If you are telling the truth, then you would not need to review your testimony from the day before!

one great benefit of trying to be an honest person is not having to remember what you say. If asked again, then you just tell the truth again as best you recall it and both answers will be nearly the same



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[manzana]

The peace sign not sure of, but now you have me curious so going to go back and look at all the pics of TA I can find.
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I know you were not the first to call it a PEACE sign but it was not a peace sign

It was a TWO finger salute which is basically a *uck you but more emphatic than just giving someone the finger

 

[Davia18]

I agree with you. I do believe the pictures of Travis weren't posed (on the bed), and he was caught off-guard. I believe she posed for those pictures herself as well, with a timer, in hopes of when he brought his camera to cancun that he'd not realize they were on there, and when showing others pictures he'd taken he'd have a woopsie moment, where his travel companion would come across them.

Also, i believe travis' shower pictures were done under duress. Jodi came back and surprised him, then forced him to pose. I've said since the day i saw that last picture that Travis looked as though he knew his death was fast approaching. He's tearful.

I believe they may have fought about those pictures she took of herself on his camera..and travis knew exactly what her ploy was.


All MOO..

I so agree with all this and never thought about her taking the pics of herself so that would be found by another woman but holy crap that would be something she would do IMO.

I believe he thought she was gone when she appeared in the bathroom with the camera. I feel she packed up, loaded her car, grabbed the gun from her car, a knife from the kitchen and went back upstairs to kill him and she wanted pics of the fear in his eyes once he realized ( in her mind ) that she won.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

I agree, would cut down on these kinds of killings. I'm harsh though and feel the justice system has become so crazy. We have come up with so many new things to get people off and get away with these crimes it's just crazy to me. I'm only 33 so not from the old ways but the new ones and I don't like them. I think I was born in the wrong century LOL MOO

me too! I am just so tired of the "tactics" to keep someone off death row, or to find an error in a case so you go free.

HOW about the truth? doesn't that matter anymore!

 

[lil_buddy]

Don't know about everyone else, but I chose to follow this trial because I'm fascinated by psychopaths. It's been far more interesting for me because she actually took the stand.

For those that had doubts she was a psychopath / sociopath, do you still feel the same? Any doubt now?

IMO what everyone is seeing & commenting on watching Jodi is typical text book psychopathy.

It's really interesting if you hit mute and watch her knowing why she's there... Also fascinating to not look at her and listen to the word salad answers designed for wiggle room.

Hi Linda. I had doubts, but now, not so much. You called it!

 

[sumbunny]

I think JA was totally 'fatal attraction' on travis. A true bunny boiler.

She claimed on cross examination that although not bf/gf she visited daily. Just walked in, made herself at home. Juan was trying to get evidence out that she was not invited, but took it upon herself to do this on her own...as though she owned Travis. I can see it coming together albeit slowly.

 

[RR0004]

I agree with you. I do believe the pictures of Travis weren't posed (on the bed), and he was caught off-guard. I believe she posed for those pictures herself as well, with a timer, in hopes of when he brought his camera to cancun that he'd not realize they were on there, and when showing others pictures he'd taken he'd have a woopsie moment, where his travel companion would come across them.

Also, i believe travis' shower pictures were done under duress. Jodi came back and surprised him, then forced him to pose. I've said since the day i saw that last picture that Travis looked as though he knew his death was fast approaching. He's tearful.

I believe they may have fought about those pictures she took of herself on his camera..and travis knew exactly what her ploy was.


All MOO..

ITA...but I don't think Jodi ever intended on Travis going to Cancun.

 

[KMouse]

I got the impression are TWO separate checkpoints, and her magazines failed the second one. For example...

Maybe first they inspect what an inmate wants to hand-off to a visitor. This part of JA's scheme may have happened smoothly. The guards in the visitor's room caught nothing wrong with Jodi's little magazines; they allowed her to go ahead and give them to Ann.

But later, whenever Ann leaves the visitor's room, she walks all the way to exit the entire facility. However, there may be a separate inspection before she can actually step outdoors.

Maybe here is where JA's friend Ann innocently hands over the magazine for inspection. And surprise, this particular guard discovered the handwriting on the wall. I mean "in the magazine." :floorlaugh:

I used to work in a jail and inmates would sign out property all the time. They had to fill out a form and it had to be signed by one of the guards in their unit. The form would come to my department and we would take the property up to the person receiving the property. It was usually bank cards, wallets, and jewelry. Property from the living units was never signed out...only property that was in my department from when inmates were booked in.

The guards in the jail where Jodi is probably know a lot about how inmates pass along information such as flying kites etc. I would think that their hinky meters were probably set off when an inmate wanted to sign out magazines. It's odd. Glad it was caught.

I now work as LE support and don't have to look in people's three hole wonders anymore

 

[Boodles]

I couldn't agree more. I have feeling the defense would like her to be a little more frail but she is not capable. I am learning there are so many things JA is not capable of doing and feeling like a normal person. It is mind boggeling to watch her. She is more worried about beating Juan and not letting him get to her then her own defense story. She is one twisted person that lacks so many normal emotions.

Yes. I am amazed that this defendant has done a masterful job of lying on direct, up to the point of the "I don't remember" murder, but she cannot or will not continue with her portrayal of the poor submissive victim during this critical cross examination. It's as though her pride and belligerence are more important, winning against Juan is more important, than the outcome of her fate.

I can't help but believe that whatever compassion any of the jurors may have had for her during the defense's direct has been decimated by the blatant change in her persona which reflects the cold, calculating and masterful manipulator. Doesn't she care that her behavior is cultivating (I hope) hate for her by the jury?

Say what you will about her, but this defendant is no dummy. I don't understand why she is not acting the part of poor victim "appropriately" at this point. She has chosen instead to be a b*tch on wheels.

While this is fascinating to watch - crazy in action - I cannot stand the disrespect she is showing to the Court. I wish they could give her a time out and send her to her cell until she improves her behavior.

 

[RadarLuv]

Am I wrong or did they, not ONLY have court M-F, but weren't there occasions where court was held on Saturdays? I think all these abbreviated weeks are RIDICULOUS!

 

[Frigga]

Good morning fellow sleuthers! I am just now getting here, I stayed up late (for me) to read Katiecoo's observations from inside the courtroom. I can't wait to read Anita Richman's insights too! Very exciting and insightful.

I want to share what I woke up thinking this morning. My wheels were turning all day processing Juan's cross examination of Jodi. I had to keep reminding myself that this was only cross of Jodi's testimony and NOT rebuttal.

In retrospect there are two distinct points Juan is trying to prove (now and much more during rebuttal when he can bring in witness testimony): 1) That this 3rd and final story of Jodi's is just that- a story, not unlike the other two. The only difference being she admitted that she in fact murdered Travis. First story I was NOT there... nowhere near Travis or Arizona for MONTHS prior-I had NOTHING to do with his murder. Second story, told only because there was irrefutable evidence, that she was there, ok, yes I was there that day but two OTHER people came in and killed Travis. Third and final story, I was there AND I killed him but in self defense of a dropped camera (how ridiculous- I mean really- what did you all think when you heard that reason), but now here are all the new embellishments as to why I did it, and why you (the jury) should secretly hate Travis and be grateful I killed him too. Juan is methodically showing the jury, and wow with the magazine evidence this is now in sharp focus, that this is just another fabricated story- just like the others, all with the same end purpose, only this one is the worst- she has attacked and destroyed the victims character for all the world to see to prove she was justified! If the jury believes this is a story (I believe Juan will prove it) then she is going down. She will be hated and despised by that jury.

Okay, so that was 1 purpose of the 2 that Juan is weaving the cross around.

The second point he needs to prove, the one we are technically all here because of, is proving premeditation. The first point is almost a sub story in this although not to Travis, his family or loved ones- this is what makes this one important on a different level... but to Juan, still very important.

Juans entire afternoon cross is him laying down the foundation- the one he kept hidden in his pocket during his case in chief, to prove unequivocal premeditation. He was NOT going to bring this information out during his CIC. He was going to wait to see the sociopathic defendant take the stand (he knew she would), and let her blather on and on with her foolish, self serving lies (he knew that too) and set her up to begin to trap her now (he's only setting the trap during her cross) but will spring it (so to speak) during his rebuttal case.

He is brilliant and for those of you who are doubting or concerned just be patient he is going to PROVE PREMEDIATION, I have absolutely no doubt now. He has proof and she will be proven a liar. Matt McCartney may have some sick love for Jodi- Darryl too, but Matt's roommate will not... Darryl's neighbors will not, and salon employee/owners will not. There is a lot more about her time in Pasadena too- someone she visited there that will have no love loss for Jodi, I am pretty certain.

Fear not- If the penalty of death is based on the premeditation factor then she will be sentenced to death. Juan has this wrapped up neatly, if he didn't he may have accepted the plea deal.

Just my opinions... we shall see.